[G] Mini-guide: Roach/speedling aggression(ZvP) - Page 2

johax

Sweden165 Posts

October 28 2011 07:32 GMT

#21

Nice guide. I usually do a very similar build I've seen LosirA doing, well it'ss basicly the same.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=217419

I've found that vs a 3gate expand on wide natural maps, the only way for the toss to come out ahead is to make 4 or 5 sentries and forcefield good. If he goes greedy with his gas and goes into tech, this will most certainly get you significantly ahead.

It's important to know that after you have made like 30 speedlings you must start droning behind it to get ahead.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 28 2011 13:32 GMT

#22

also you forgot to include the second queen in your BO so it looks like you are doing this off 1 queen? Maybe that's part of the build but it seems wrong.

Vandroy

Sweden155 Posts

October 28 2011 14:53 GMT

#23

Hi Ahelvin, I have hardly played this build as of late mostly because I'm exploring some other options(I still keep it in my backpocket though!). When I played it was mostly against 3gate sentry expand so I'm not sure about 1-gate expands but I think it is still viable.

You still run the risks of encountering dts and void rays just abit earlier but I can play around with it some more and see how it works against 1gate expands.

If you don't want to use this build(against 1gate expand) then I'd go for that pretty fast third as Buruguduy suggested but start taking gas earlier than you'd take it against a ffe. You also have to be more on your toes with the zergling pokes at the front and your overlord sacrifice to see if he's going for stargate, some 4-5 wargate aggression or something else, from there it's like a normal game scout and react.

On October 28 2011 22:32 kushm4sta wrote:
also you forgot to include the second queen in your BO so it looks like you are doing this off 1 queen? Maybe that's part of the build but it seems wrong.

Yeah sorry about that I will add it, forgot that hatch at 20 food also at first, it was very obvious in my mind that it was a speedling expand but it might not have been that in the text. So yeah you start your queen at the same time your first one finishes.

clever_us

United States329 Posts

October 28 2011 15:05 GMT

#24

ahh thanks! my ZvP has been in dire need of a strong opening.... <3

freewareplayer

Germany403 Posts

November 29 2011 10:15 GMT

#25

Shouldnt this work rather well versus a FFE with double stargate follow up?

From my offrace experience as protoss, you cant get double Stargate and Gateways at the same time without cutting probes, so they should be fairly vulnerable to this no? Especially since double Stargate doesnt leave much early gas for sentries.

Anyone has some experience with that?

thejuilesy

Ireland13 Posts

November 29 2011 10:39 GMT

#26

ive been doing somthing similar lately, and it really punishs greedy protoss, esp if they go forge nexus then cannon, thx for the refined build order

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