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Darkybald
Profile Joined April 2010
46 Posts
April 07 2011 19:35 GMT
#301
nice guide !
Wasn't there a tool that helped with tapping? I cant find it anymore. It was posted after the day9 coaching djweat episode.
gavinashun
Profile Joined October 2010
101 Posts
April 07 2011 21:36 GMT
#302
Wow! Very awesome guide.

Do you have a similar recommendation for Terran players as to what a great starting build to learn would be? I had a very similar idea that I wanted to focus on 1 BO only per matchup so I could focus on macro/mechanics.

Thanks!
wkfnwkwkfn
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3 Posts
April 08 2011 02:48 GMT
#303
this whole thread can be subbed into two words. MICRO AND MACRO. PEriod.

User was banned for this post.
I play terran to win!
.Sic.
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)497 Posts
April 08 2011 08:13 GMT
#304
On April 03 2011 14:46 13th Marine wrote:
That was a great read, thank you for writing it up. Clears up many things.

Are noobs allowed to ask questions about applying this?

If so: I've been trying to improve in this way, albeit in a way less refined form, but have recently hit a brick wall of sorts. Specifically, once I finally got over my denial of getting placed in Bronze League and made it my goal to take a game off a Master League, I chose MarineKing's 2 Rax FE as the single build I would work on as I improve my macro, micro, and mechanics. I had the most fun watching MKP in the GSL, knew it worked in many situations at a high level of play, and found it fun to play as well once I got started.

But then as I started getting a little bit better and got promoted to Silver, and now to Gold, I've entered the territory of players who, at least in my experience, love to 4-Gate or Baneling Bust, or Cloaked Banshee Rush, and can actually execute the builds reasonably well compared to the Bronzes. At first, I was randomly matched against Terran and Protoss only, so at that point I told myself that I would just make the build work. And eventually I learned how to stop them, even though a lot of those games just felt weird for whatever reason. But once I finally started getting matched against Zergs, I've lost all but one game to Baneling-based play, since they always seem to hit me during that very vulnerable moment when my expo has just gotten up. Should I still try to make the build work, or should I add a second build? That one win against a Zerg was actually using MKP's Mech-based play instead...

And how will I know when I am ready for additional builds?

Thanks again!


I am not sure exactly, but MKP's 2 rax expand might be either outdated, relies on doing damage to zerg early game, or works only on specific maps. I would not ever recommend expanding against zerg without getting siege tanks. The safer build is probably 2 rax harass, add 2 gas, get a factory and then move out. Or maybe you can do something else that transitions into siege tanks and then expand.
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NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
April 08 2011 08:44 GMT
#305
Dont think i've read a such good read/thread/point in maybe 3-4 years on teamliquid.. Well done sir! i hope some people actually red the hole thing. It makes like 100 good points you should know as a good player.
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
JustPlayin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States27 Posts
April 08 2011 13:50 GMT
#306
I'm unsure if this can be asked in this thread, but I have read in the OP to follow a pro and I was watching Grubby play the other day, and I think I wan to go with him. However, when I go on sc2rep.com and search Grubby, I'm seeing EGGrubby and Grubby. How do you know which ones are his replays? And how do you know if it's the legit Grubby and now somebody's fake name?
Albrithe
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada187 Posts
April 08 2011 14:42 GMT
#307
On April 03 2011 13:13 CecilSunkure wrote:

    [2.04] You suck

You suck. There is a mindset you need to have in order to grow. I briefly mentioned it in section 4.04 by quoting Damien Rice.

This is the only thing that struck me as odd in the writeup that hasn't been addressed since my last read through. It feels weird while reading to say that you're going to quote something later. Quote it now, and reference it later as already having been quoted.
"You don't need a condom... to get up on 'dem..." -Zach Weiner
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
April 09 2011 07:34 GMT
#308
This thread got bumped by artosis and tasteless at gsl wc :D shows how awesome this guide is.
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
Catchafire2000
Profile Joined August 2010
United States227 Posts
April 09 2011 07:34 GMT
#309
lol, woot.
jabooty
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 09 2011 07:35 GMT
#310
Tasteless just did a big shoutout for this thread! He is going to link this to his twitter. Expect a huge increase in view count!
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
April 09 2011 08:11 GMT
#311
great read thanks tasteless for referring me
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
Falkner
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines9 Posts
April 09 2011 12:54 GMT
#312
FFFUUUUUU o.O gonna bookmark this
REM.ca
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada354 Posts
April 09 2011 14:14 GMT
#313
Great read. Next step for the community should probably be writing up a goal oriented program for each races. Basically, simply a list of hierarchical, quantifiable, concrete goals to work on.
I have a palm permanently stuck to my face yo.
ShamTao
Profile Joined September 2010
United States419 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:54:59
April 09 2011 16:54 GMT
#314
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 06 2011 02:33 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 02:29 ShamTao wrote:
Hi CecilSunkure!

Well, this in addition to your other guides on TL has shown some exemplary dedication to the community, so thanks!

Now, for my question:

Do you have any advice for keyboard hand positioning? While this may seem an obvious point (i.e. put your hand by the hotkeys), some people may have a way of more easily navigating their higher numbered hotkeys.

For example, I always have my higher tech on 9 (for upgrades) and forge(s) on 0, but since I have to stretch my hand to reach them, I almost never get to tap them ingame to check their status. If the only way to tap these efficiently is just forcing myself to do it, then I'll just have to practice it, but just because hand placement on the keyboard wasn't mentioned in the OP i wasn't sure if you had any opinion/advice on the matter.

Also, thanks for keeping up with the thread!

Well keyboard placement was mentioned, I just didn't go into crazy detail on. And the answer is nope! You just have to get used to moving your left hand around


Okie doke, then. Sorry for missing that, but thanks for answering the question!
In the game of drones, you win or you die!
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 09 2011 18:41 GMT
#315
On April 09 2011 16:34 Engore wrote:
This thread got bumped by artosis and tasteless at gsl wc :D shows how awesome this guide is.

Whoa. Could yo link me?
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
April 09 2011 18:46 GMT
#316
This is a amazing guide thank you very much.
if you can believe you can concieve
Ghost.573
Profile Joined August 2010
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 18:49:43
April 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#317
On April 10 2011 03:41 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 16:34 Engore wrote:
This thread got bumped by artosis and tasteless at gsl wc :D shows how awesome this guide is.

Whoa. Could yo link me?


They mentioned it while they were casting the GSL finals and then Tasteless linked it on his twitter account. By the way really like the guide, good read with some great info. Im taking my time reading parts of it at a time and trying to start working on them.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
April 09 2011 19:15 GMT
#318
This is great man, good job!
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
mansnicks
Profile Joined January 2010
Latvia120 Posts
April 09 2011 19:36 GMT
#319
hmmm... for my reading skills... i would have to spend a whole day to read this guide :D
Super passive with no scouting is a recipe for disaster.
Chamenas
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
96 Posts
April 09 2011 20:24 GMT
#320
On April 10 2011 03:41 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 16:34 Engore wrote:
This thread got bumped by artosis and tasteless at gsl wc :D shows how awesome this guide is.

Whoa. Could yo link me?


3rd set, World Championship Finals (free on Gomtv.net) about 9 minutes and 20 seconds in. Also, Tasteless posted it on his Twitter CallMeTasteless.
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