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elf.Rough
Profile Joined March 2011
Uganda22 Posts
April 02 2011 17:10 GMT
#101
Thank you for this post. It was really nice to read.
I totally agree with you.
hAvE a NaIcE DaY
emrick
Profile Joined December 2010
United States39 Posts
April 02 2011 18:21 GMT
#102
nice post and your english is perfectly understandable. btw, did you play a game called Nexus TK?
teh_longinator
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada725 Posts
April 02 2011 21:59 GMT
#103
Excellent read, BekHo. Thank you for our contribution.

Also, just to relive the theatre event... BEKHO FIGHTING!
gh0stfly
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden9 Posts
April 02 2011 23:16 GMT
#104
Thanks man, nice post
protoss is balanced
JFiction
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada23 Posts
April 02 2011 23:19 GMT
#105
Great write-up, really funny too ^^!

Props to you for living in Toronto, Great White North represent.
My life for Aiur.
PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
April 02 2011 23:23 GMT
#106
Would you suggest sticking to one or two builds whilst trying to improve instead of doing random builds all the time?
iNcontrol, IdrA,Lz, Strifecro, Axslav, Machine, Demuslim! EG Fighting!!!~~
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
April 02 2011 23:26 GMT
#107
good read.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
parkLife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada125 Posts
April 02 2011 23:40 GMT
#108
This is awesome stuff man, it motivates me quite a bit!
In SC1, ZvZ was Rock-Paper-Scissors... unless JaeDong was playing, then it was Rock-Paper-Scissors-JD, and JD beats all of them.
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
April 02 2011 23:43 GMT
#109
Inspiring, going to ladder now.
閑静 しずか (ノ・_・)ノ
AbuHamze
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany15 Posts
April 03 2011 00:09 GMT
#110
i usually dont write comments but i have to in this case...

for me as a high masters in team games trying to get better in 1v1, your advice wasnt helpfull at all, all you are saying is basicly -> practise!

well ok, fair enough you right about that, but for example you also say you have to watch replays of your losses, and look what you did wrong... well in the first place i dont do that because i dont understand what i should do, i dont know what is going on, the only way i win basicly is by cheesing, eg. trying out a build that got hyped on Liquid, some strong rush, i will practise that in 10-12 cpu games untill i mastered it perfectly then just own ppl in 1v1 with it... but everytime it gets beyond that build and i couldnt beat my opponent, i simply dont know what i should do


the way i learn the game is from imitating other players, and in my believe 95% of ALL good players are only imitating others, the problem i have is, everytime i watch GSL, TSL i see a super nice build, i want to watch the replay and learn from it... i cant learn from VODs and i think im not the only one thinking this.

However all those replays are not available, and EVERYTIME i try to improve and learn from replays i end up not finding any replays that will help me out... and in the end i spend 2-3 hours searching and searching for a replay where i can learn something from it.

I think most of the top players are that good because they getting supported by other top players, they dont have to spend hours searching for replays for a certain tactic... bcs they will get the replay from their teammates etc.. and i think thats the major reason why most of the pro's are that good... they never wouldve made it alone
Sovern
Profile Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
April 03 2011 01:47 GMT
#111
^^You need to find practice partners and learn how to play standard instead of learning cheese builds if you want to make progress, that or get better at cheesing.
ZeNex
Profile Joined January 2011
16 Posts
April 04 2011 06:58 GMT
#112
Inspirational but I still don't get much time

Lucky to get a game a day. Maybe 10 at a weekend
effecto
Profile Joined February 2011
France142 Posts
April 04 2011 11:22 GMT
#113
Ty BaekHo for this analyse.

I feel really frustrated about what you said about talent. I was just 4k master terran player in season 1, and since like two months i feel like my strategy/micro/macro doesn't improve like i would. So I'm really scared about the fact that I'm reaching my limit. I'm able to beat some pros but I want to be more regular and of course to be able to compete at highest level.

So can hard training compensate a lack of talent ?

(sorry for my bad english).

see you sir
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iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
April 04 2011 14:24 GMT
#114
On April 04 2011 20:22 effecto wrote:
Ty BaekHo for this analyse.

I feel really frustrated about what you said about talent. I was just 4k master terran player in season 1, and since like two months i feel like my strategy/micro/macro doesn't improve like i would. So I'm really scared about the fact that I'm reaching my limit. I'm able to beat some pros but I want to be more regular and of course to be able to compete at highest level.

So can hard training compensate a lack of talent ?

(sorry for my bad english).

see you sir


Talent is mostly BS.

The best of the best in any field are there because they live and breathe what they do, so they're doing it constantly and working hard at it.
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enigamI
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada385 Posts
April 05 2011 01:46 GMT
#115
Just came here from the SC2 Efficient learning guide. This is a very nice read, thanks for the post BaekHo. I'm glad to hear that the more ladder games you play the easier it gets in terms of stress at losing. Time to go hop on the ladder.
Snake_Doc
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia98 Posts
April 05 2011 01:52 GMT
#116
nice post.
Betty Blue, copy
RebelMusic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States66 Posts
April 05 2011 02:16 GMT
#117
Really good post, very helpful.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Lightningbullet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States507 Posts
April 05 2011 02:41 GMT
#118
I'm gonna struggle more...and CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS SO I DON'T GET SUPPLY BLOCKED!!!!! :O (especially right before a push)
BoxeR is AWESOME!!!!//Proud 2nd Member of the BW>SC2 club.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
April 05 2011 02:45 GMT
#119
On April 04 2011 23:24 PJA wrote:
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On April 04 2011 20:22 effecto wrote:
Ty BaekHo for this analyse.

I feel really frustrated about what you said about talent. I was just 4k master terran player in season 1, and since like two months i feel like my strategy/micro/macro doesn't improve like i would. So I'm really scared about the fact that I'm reaching my limit. I'm able to beat some pros but I want to be more regular and of course to be able to compete at highest level.

So can hard training compensate a lack of talent ?

(sorry for my bad english).

see you sir


Talent is mostly BS.

The best of the best in any field are there because they live and breathe what they do, so they're doing it constantly and working hard at it.


Natural Talent does exist. Doesn't mean its everything. Some people are naturally good at math or drawing, or starcraft. Doesn't mean someone else can't reach their level. Just some people achieve skill levels at different rates.
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Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
April 05 2011 17:34 GMT
#120
Nice post thanks :D
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