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FeZo
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
August 15 2011 15:30 GMT
#6681
since im quite new to sc2 ( started playing 2 days ago :p )

can you give me a good replay site ? all i got is sc2-replays.net but i guess this site doenst cover all the replays

some current openings for terra ?

thank you : )
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
August 15 2011 16:13 GMT
#6682
On August 16 2011 00:30 FeZo wrote:
since im quite new to sc2 ( started playing 2 days ago :p )

can you give me a good replay site ? all i got is sc2-replays.net but i guess this site doenst cover all the replays

some current openings for terra ?

thank you : )

SC2rep.com
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 16:33:32
August 15 2011 16:33 GMT
#6683
On August 16 2011 00:30 FeZo wrote:

some current openings for terra ?

thank you : )


Common Terran openings in TvZ include: (Wiki)2 Rax Pressure FE and (Wiki)Reactor Hellion Expand both of which have solid transitions into standard play.

Common Terran openings in TvP include: (Wiki)the ever-present Marine Tank Banshee all-in, and variations of a(Wiki)2 Rax pressure FE, the latter of which transitions better into the midgame.

Common Terran openings in TvT include: fast tech builds that get (Wiki)fast Banshees or (Wiki)fast Blue Flame Hellions to deal economic damage, seize map control, and cover for an expansion; and more economical builds that rush for an expansion off of a lower tech.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
August 15 2011 16:49 GMT
#6684
Is there any way to teach the body not to get all pissed off and raging after a loss?
(I tried to calm 5-10 minutes after each loss but I just pissed off all day long because of a loss/few losses, I tried push-ups but I still pissed off. I never BM in a game and I always say "gg" and leave but I get so angry on myself on the way I played)
Because of it I just can't ladder for long sessions as losses get me so frustrated. Should I just force myself to spam ladder games?
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 15 2011 16:52 GMT
#6685
On August 16 2011 01:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 00:30 FeZo wrote:

some current openings for terra ?

thank you : )

Common Terran openings in TvP include: (Wiki)the ever-present Marine Tank Banshee all-in, and variations of a(Wiki)2 Rax pressure FE, the latter of which transitions better into the midgame.


That 2 rax build isn't the common 2 rax build oO
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 17:07:19
August 15 2011 17:05 GMT
#6686
On August 16 2011 01:52 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 01:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 16 2011 00:30 FeZo wrote:

some current openings for terra ?

thank you : )

Common Terran openings in TvP include: (Wiki)the ever-present Marine Tank Banshee all-in, and variations of a(Wiki)2 Rax pressure FE, the latter of which transitions better into the midgame.


That 2 rax build isn't the common 2 rax build oO


Yeah, that's true, but it's better than the other TvP 2 rax pressure FE build:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2-Rax_Pressure_FE_(vs_Protoss)

Traditionally, (I THINK) one gets a tech lab then a reactor rax, makes marauders then concussive then stim, and gets a CC fairly quickly. The Select build has like, a reaper for some reason and some other weirdness but at least it has a CC in the build order, which the standard "2 rax pressure FE" seems not to have ._.

So I work with what I got, I guess

EDIT: Maybe the solution here is I should get off my ass and go edit liquipedia a bit so I have better articles to link to lol
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 17:09:47
August 15 2011 17:08 GMT
#6687
On August 16 2011 02:05 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 01:52 Numy wrote:
On August 16 2011 01:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 16 2011 00:30 FeZo wrote:

some current openings for terra ?

thank you : )

Common Terran openings in TvP include: (Wiki)the ever-present Marine Tank Banshee all-in, and variations of a(Wiki)2 Rax pressure FE, the latter of which transitions better into the midgame.


That 2 rax build isn't the common 2 rax build oO


Yeah, that's true, but it's better than the other TvP 2 rax pressure FE build:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2-Rax_Pressure_FE_(vs_Protoss)

Traditionally, (I THINK) one gets a tech lab then a reactor rax, makes marauders then concussive then stim, and gets a CC fairly quickly. The Select build has like, a reaper for some reason and some other weirdness but at least it has a CC in the build order, which the standard "2 rax pressure FE" seems not to have ._.

So I work with what I got, I guess

EDIT: Maybe the solution here is I should get off my ass and go edit liquipedia a bit so I have better articles to link to lol


Ah that's the standard 2 rax build. It's super safe and really nice. Tech lab first is more of a very fast kill stuff thing than a standard pressure build. The standard 2 rax doesn't have CC since it's merely an opening. You can transition to a CC or some kind of other 1 base. That''s part of the reason why it is the standard.
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
August 15 2011 17:10 GMT
#6688
On August 16 2011 01:49 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Is there any way to teach the body not to get all pissed off and raging after a loss?
(I tried to calm 5-10 minutes after each loss but I just pissed off all day long because of a loss/few losses, I tried push-ups but I still pissed off. I never BM in a game and I always say "gg" and leave but I get so angry on myself on the way I played)
Because of it I just can't ladder for long sessions as losses get me so frustrated. Should I just force myself to spam ladder games?


Unless you're playing in a tournament, where it matters, you should have no negative feelings over a ladder loss. While the anger shows your care about improving, being angry WON'T help you improve. You say you get angry at yourself for how you played, but instead of that, you should just approach the losses as learning experiences. You're probably too hooked on the final result (omg do I win or lose this? Do I get the ladder pointzzzzzz?!), so you just need to stop considering win/loss as important if you want to improve.

Also, read this guide: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343
And this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244816
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dbddbddb
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore969 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 17:11:20
August 15 2011 17:11 GMT
#6689
For protoss that use 0 for nexus and P for probe, what hotkey do they bind for their chrono boost?
UnholyGregor
Profile Joined January 2011
111 Posts
August 15 2011 17:13 GMT
#6690
On January 26 2011 18:50 Grumbels wrote:
As zerg in a situation where you have ~22 drones mining and your expo finishes, is it better to change your main hatchery's rally to the expansion, or is it better to transfer half your workers and keep the rally point the same?

Anybody?
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 15 2011 17:15 GMT
#6691
On August 16 2011 02:13 UnholyGregor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 18:50 Grumbels wrote:
As zerg in a situation where you have ~22 drones mining and your expo finishes, is it better to change your main hatchery's rally to the expansion, or is it better to transfer half your workers and keep the rally point the same?

Anybody?


It's better to transfer some of your drones. The mining time you lose will be made up by the travel time of the drones from the hatch afterwards.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
August 15 2011 17:22 GMT
#6692
On August 16 2011 02:13 UnholyGregor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 18:50 Grumbels wrote:
As zerg in a situation where you have ~22 drones mining and your expo finishes, is it better to change your main hatchery's rally to the expansion, or is it better to transfer half your workers and keep the rally point the same?

Anybody?

I actually think it's more simple to just start rallying to the natural. Also, I only keep 18 mining on minerals.
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
August 15 2011 17:24 GMT
#6693
On August 16 2011 02:10 Vod.kaholic wrote:
Unless you're playing in a tournament, where it matters, you should have no negative feelings over a ladder loss. While the anger shows your care about improving, being angry WON'T help you improve. You say you get angry at yourself for how you played, but instead of that, you should just approach the losses as learning experiences. You're probably too hooked on the final result (omg do I win or lose this? Do I get the ladder pointzzzzzz?!), so you just need to stop considering win/loss as important if you want to improve.

Also, read this guide: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343
And this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244816

I understand the theory of positive thinking, from losses we learn and so forth but what I am looking for are exercise or something to train the body not to get frustrated by a loss in the ladder or elsewhere.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
August 15 2011 17:34 GMT
#6694
On August 16 2011 02:11 dbddbddb wrote:
For protoss that use 0 for nexus and P for probe, what hotkey do they bind for their chrono boost?
I think where you put your hotkeys should be dependent on where your hand rests on the keyboard. If you're left-handed and are using 0 and p as hotkeys since your right hand is your keyboard hand, you'll probably what chrono boost to be in that region as well, maybe as L or ; or something. It really depends on what else you've got in there so it doesn't interfere.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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K9GM3
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands116 Posts
August 15 2011 17:36 GMT
#6695
On August 16 2011 02:13 UnholyGregor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 18:50 Grumbels wrote:
As zerg in a situation where you have ~22 drones mining and your expo finishes, is it better to change your main hatchery's rally to the expansion, or is it better to transfer half your workers and keep the rally point the same?

Anybody?

Depends. By sending half your Drones right away, you're halving your income for the duration of their travel time. However, mining with 2x11 workers is more efficient than mining with 22.

I'd say it depends on how starved you are for minerals at the time of the transfer, as well as the travel distance. If it's a longer travel distance or I need short-term cash, I'd leave my Drones where they are and simply prioritise my expansion's Larvae for making Drones.
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Aletheia27
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States267 Posts
August 15 2011 17:59 GMT
#6696
On August 16 2011 02:13 UnholyGregor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 18:50 Grumbels wrote:
As zerg in a situation where you have ~22 drones mining and your expo finishes, is it better to change your main hatchery's rally to the expansion, or is it better to transfer half your workers and keep the rally point the same?

Anybody?


Transfering drones vs keeping drones and re-rallying doesn't matter in terms of overall mining. You can think of it mathematically. Transfering immediately loses some mining per drone transfered as a funciton of time. But re-rallying has the same effect over the course of a longer period of time but with fewer drones at any given moment. The total "loss" however will be the same.

Now the moments when you want to transfer are if you are over "optimal" saturation. Meaning if you have over 16 on minerals and 3 per geyser. You should then transfer all other drones (past 16 on mins 3 per gas) to your expansion and re-rally. Or if you can keep track of it, transfer enough so that you'll have an even amount on mins on each. I personally find the latter cumbersome as when I take a 3rd it becomes more difficult to retain the proportion of drones. And each further expo increases mining distance and difficulty Although the re-rally also has issues because you don't want drones constantly moving accross the map.

However the benefit of doing this on 2 base I find is that it allows me to better time and recognize when I need to take a 3rd base or when I can opt to make units and not drone as each additional drone brings in only marginal income if I don't take a 3rd quickly for some reason. (as my second becomes optimally saturated)
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saaaa
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany419 Posts
August 15 2011 19:02 GMT
#6697
Is it better to open a 2 Factory BF Hellion Build with a 2 rax pressure FE or just Gasless Expand in TvZ?

Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 15 2011 19:13 GMT
#6698
On August 16 2011 02:13 UnholyGregor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 18:50 Grumbels wrote:
As zerg in a situation where you have ~22 drones mining and your expo finishes, is it better to change your main hatchery's rally to the expansion, or is it better to transfer half your workers and keep the rally point the same?

Anybody?

After you have 16 drones at your expo, the next 4 mine at half the rate, and the next 4 at about quarter the rate I think, so if you have less than saturated expo and a base with 17+ drones, you should always transfer. In your example of 22 drones, you should transfer 6 of them and probably rally both hatcheries to your expo.
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kuroshiro
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom378 Posts
August 15 2011 20:23 GMT
#6699
I know custom key-bindings that are set within sc2 are fine for tournament play, but I have a slightly odd setup where my ctrl key is bound to capslock (so I don't have to stretch so far for this very common chord).. would that be allowed in a tournament do you think?
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Huntz
Profile Joined July 2011
164 Posts
August 15 2011 20:35 GMT
#6700
How do you respond to a non-proxy 2 gate before core in PvP? I assume you need to match his 2nd gateway but can you get a core first? Do you need to chrono your zealots?
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