EPTSimple Questions Simple Answers - Page 333
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy |
|
FrayzZeUsher
United States225 Posts
| ||
|
ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
When do I add my gateways/robo's after a forge fast expand? Or just after an expansion in general? I always seem to float 1-2k minerals before and even after the warpgate finishes even with warping in perfectly | ||
|
Geiko
France1968 Posts
On August 14 2011 21:13 ProxyKnoxy wrote: I posted this earlier but no one answered :/ When do I add my gateways/robo's after a forge fast expand? Or just after an expansion in general? I always seem to float 1-2k minerals before and even after the warpgate finishes even with warping in perfectly Depends on the build you are doing. Tell us what your game plan is and we can help you (double robo 2 base push, 7gate push, blink stalker pressure, stargate harass ? ) If you don't have a precise idea of what you want to do, just get production facilities as you can afford them (don't let money get that high) | ||
|
greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
| ||
|
Geiko
France1968 Posts
On August 14 2011 21:22 greggy wrote: I've been looking around for a PvP stargate build, but most are outdated (pre-wg nerf) or plain ridiculous. I understand that stargate supposedly counters robo, but I'm not exactly sure how exactly. Can anyone provide a replay or explanation of that? Thanks. To my knowledge there are no "solid" PvP stargate builds as of yet. And stargate doesn't counter robo (except stuborn robo players that continue to make colossi even after scouting your phoenix). A thread popped up yesterday on forge + stargate, I don't recommend it but you can check it out to see a high master player play around with phoenix harass to get some ideas. | ||
|
greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
On August 14 2011 21:29 Geiko wrote: To my knowledge there are no "solid" PvP stargate builds as of yet. And stargate doesn't counter robo (except stuborn robo players that continue to make colossi even after scouting your phoenix). A thread popped up yesterday on forge + stargate, I don't recommend it but you can check it out to see a high master player play around with phoenix harass to get some ideas. Yeah, I saw that thread, but it wasn't any good at all. What I'm trying to get at is - quite often nowadays I see with my scouting probe my opponent taking second gas and going 1g robo. What do I do, considering I usually open 3 stalker rush or 4gate? This is not on TDA. Can I immediately expand and hope I can hold him with later gates and robo, while camping outside his base? Or do I throw second gas and a robo asap and try to match him in the robo game (which I personally dislike)? Or should I just 4gate him? Edit: okay, that didn't quite come out as planned. Essentially, my question is: upon confirming 1gate robo into assuming 3g robo, is it possible to expand off 1gate and hold the 1base robo play? If there are any replays of this, I'd be thankful if someone could point them out to me. | ||
|
Geiko
France1968 Posts
On August 14 2011 21:40 greggy wrote: Yeah, I saw that thread, but it wasn't any good at all. What I'm trying to get at is - quite often nowadays I see with my scouting probe my opponent taking second gas and going 1g robo. What do I do, considering I usually open 3 stalker rush or 4gate? This is not on TDA. Can I immediately expand and hope I can hold him with later gates and robo, while camping outside his base? Or do I throw second gas and a robo asap and try to match him in the robo game (which I personally dislike)? Or should I just 4gate him? Edit: okay, that didn't quite come out as planned. Essentially, my question is: upon confirming 1gate robo into assuming 3g robo, is it possible to expand off 1gate and hold the 1base robo play? If there are any replays of this, I'd be thankful if someone could point them out to me. You shouldn't be able to scout 1 gate robo double gas with your probe tbh. If you do, the easiest thing to do is to 4 gate him (there is a 4 gate version of the 3 stalker opening if you don't chrono your stalkers). I don't care what people say, I've never seen ANY 1 gate robo build hold off a good 4 gate. Some builds come close, some builds can with superior micro, but not of them consistently beat 4 gate. You can 3 gate expand in response if you want, especially on maps with easy to hold naturals. MC does this quite often. The only thing you need to be worried is getting enough units to hold the 2 immortal + 2 colo push afterward (or similar pushes). When early expanding in PvP, be mindful not to make too many probes. You're already ahead if you can hold and he doesn't expand, so focus on units. I usually get blink when doing this and if he pushes too early, I engage in a base trade. If you're clever there might be a build to 3 gate stargate all in him, but I haven't figured out a good timing for that. (and also, you almost never get to see the robo go down.) | ||
|
greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
On August 14 2011 21:49 Geiko wrote: You shouldn't be able to scout 1 gate robo double gas with your probe tbh. If you do, the easiest thing to do is to 4 gate him (there is a 4 gate version of the 3 stalker opening if you don't chrono your stalkers). I don't care what people say, I've never seen ANY 1 gate robo build hold off a good 4 gate. Some builds come close, some builds can with superior micro, but not of them consistently beat 4 gate. You can 3 gate expand in response if you want, especially on maps with easy to hold naturals. MC does this quite often. The only thing you need to be worried is getting enough units to hold the 2 immortal + 2 colo push afterward (or similar pushes). When early expanding in PvP, be mindful not to make too many probes. You're already ahead if you can hold and he doesn't expand, so focus on units. I usually get blink when doing this and if he pushes too early, I engage in a base trade. If you're clever there might be a build to 3 gate stargate all in him, but I haven't figured out a good timing for that. (and also, you almost never get to see the robo go down.) I didn't mention it but I assume my opponent adds two more gates when my probe is dead/chased away, so it's 3g robo. Sorry. This is at diamond level. What would be the ideal unit composition if I decide to expand? 1-2 sentries for GS, and stalker/zealot with twilight upgrades? Or should I try to play catchup and make a robo and go for immortals myself? But anyway thanks Geiko! | ||
|
Geiko
France1968 Posts
On August 14 2011 22:02 greggy wrote: I didn't mention it but I assume my opponent adds two more gates when my probe is dead/chased away, so it's 3g robo. Sorry. This is at diamond level. What would be the ideal unit composition if I decide to expand? 1-2 sentries for GS, and stalker/zealot with twilight upgrades? Or should I try to play catchup and make a robo and go for immortals myself? But anyway thanks Geiko! No I understood it was a 1 gate robo into 3 gate robo, but it still can't hold off a good 4 gate. At diamond level of execution however it could be easier to defend with this than to actually execute the 4gate so don't do it if you can't consistently hit the 5.45 timing or get good proxy pylons down. The composition you should go for is blink stalker harass into chargelot archon immortal. It's a pretty hard matchup, I recommend you to read the guides from cecil and 4kmonk when you can. | ||
|
Kambing
United States1176 Posts
On August 14 2011 19:04 KaiserJohan wrote: I am using a 4:3 monitor. Do I get ingame gameplay beenfits (larger view) with a widescreen? Yes. With a HD-esque ratio, you will gain more horizontal screen real-estate. ![[image loading]](http://h-6.abload.de/img/sc2_fov36k6.gif) (Personally speaking, 4:3 feels pretty claustrophobic after playing on 16: 9.) | ||
|
Gromo
Poland49 Posts
How i can destroy bunker on ramp in early game with no/small suicide? I play protoss. | ||
|
Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
| ||
|
Geiko
France1968 Posts
On August 15 2011 01:07 Gromo wrote: I got 1 small question. How i can destroy bunker on ramp in early game with no/small suicide? I play protoss. Zealots in front, stalker behind, one guardian shield and FF behind the bunker if he tries to repair it. Your question is a little vague. This is how you should do it, whether it's a good decision to bust down a bunker on top of a ramp is another question... | ||
|
Gromo
Poland49 Posts
| ||
|
Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
On August 15 2011 01:21 Gromo wrote: So i ask about bunker when he stay like terran's wall. On top of ramp. Somethimes i need fast atack/push and terrans build bunkers. It's hard to destroy. I always lost some units. Bunker is designed to stop fast pushes. To break bunkers, Immortals are good because of their high damage. You can also try to use blink or void rays to get around the bunker entirely. It will be hard to kill a bunker without tech units or a lot of units. | ||
|
Huntz
164 Posts
Match his gateway count; you will have the defender's advantage and take no damage. Um ok, but this is a little vague (about non proxy 2 gate in PvP for others) Can you go gate-cyber-gate? Or do you have to match immediately? Are you behind if he suicides 2 zeals into your mineral line? Do you need to chrono your zeals, or will the rush distance make up for it? | ||
|
Trazati
52 Posts
| ||
|
Kambing
United States1176 Posts
On August 15 2011 06:39 Trazati wrote: Hi guys I am very new to the game having played about 10 games of starcraft in my life starting 3 days ago. I am really enjoying it and also enjoy all of the info I can read and find about on the web, but i have a pretty specific question that google cant seem to answer. How do you select just a certain unit when you have 2 different types of units selected? Lets say I highlight over my army of zealots and stalkers. i want to select just the zealots, how do i do that? thanks! Ctrl-click one of the zealot icons in the selection window at the bottom of the screen. | ||
|
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 14 2011 22:14 Kambing wrote: Yes. With a HD-esque ratio, you will gain more horizontal screen real-estate. (Personally speaking, 4:3 feels pretty claustrophobic after playing on 16: 9.) That's not quite accurate I believe. 4:3 you see move vertically and minimap is bigger. | ||
|
TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
| ||
| ||
