EPTwhats better to research? Armor or Weapons? - Page 3
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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EriktheGuy
Canada132 Posts
On October 13 2010 13:01 Ryuu314 wrote: I'm pretty sure as Terran weapons first is always better simply because of how well it scales. The only time I'd imagine armor being better than weapons is against mutas... Yeah, this is probably always true. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
This clip talks about some good number evolving around upgrading. Personally I only upgrade weapon. If I have 2 engineering bay or armory, I will upgrade other stuffs too, but if I want to squeeze tech from a single tech building, I only go with weapon. | ||
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doerit
Germany234 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + He provides some very interesting information and juggles a lot with numbers. One example:Thor(0/0) vs. Drone/Zergling(0/0) takes one round of attack to kill, vs. Hydras(0/0) two. The number of attacks to kill these units will not change with upgrades, a 3/0 Thor will still need one round of attack to kill a drone/zergling (0/0) and two to kill a hydra (0/0). Crota provides some empirical evidence to answer this question. I liked it a lot. Edit: It takes way to long to write my posts :D | ||
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osten
Sweden316 Posts
But this dosen't matter, only exactly how many shots unit x needs against unit y. The metagame is the only concern, and that's just something you need to teach yourself with that spreadsheet  | ||
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Oxb
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10691 Posts
+Weapon upgrades are often more than +1 DMG. +Armor upgrdes are allways just +1 Armor. Therefore it's often better to get Attack-Upgrades, especially for Metal-Units. | ||
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Lighioana
Norway466 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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EriktheGuy
Canada132 Posts
On October 13 2010 23:15 Lighioana wrote: That depends. All you have to do it open a unit tester map and test things. You will a lot of useful stuff like for example: as zerg, against zealots it's better to upgrade attack for zerlings, but for roaches the carapace is better. Actually, once those zealots get +1 weapon upgrades, +1 armor on your zerglings increases the number of attacks needed to kill them by half (3 instead of 2) | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
Yeah it's got 100% to do with what units you both have. Anyway if you were to look at it generally and logically armor would always be better, the people saying attack is better are not logical and jumping on a false bandwagon. That's why it costs more. If you can afford both armor is ofc more value for the same amount of time and it gives you damage if your units survive more and it gives you hp against things you cannot know in the future like marauders vs air and lets you position yourself and gives your units more time to reach goals. Well the list goes on. Don't listen to noobs that don't have arguments for their bandwagon style of posting. Attack is not always better, only cheaper, which actually makes it better. If you are not pro, almost always get armor. Don't give in to wishful thinking. TvZ, Terran has all ranged vs zerg with mostly short range. Attack is generally better because you'll kill more units before they're able to get in range. THAT is how you survive longer. Terran should almost always get attack first. With Protoss it's generally better to get attack first because the armor and shield upgrades are separate, so it ends up costing more. Only with zerg is it generally better to get armor. | ||
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