• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:21
CEST 17:21
KST 00:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16?
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) GSL CK #4 20-21th June Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ VPN experiences Data needed vespene.gg — BW replays in browser
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread Beyond All Reason Total War: Warhammer 40K
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8248 users

2 Hatch Muta Builds/Transistions

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 02 2010 11:05 GMT
#1
I've searched but could only find 2 Hatch Muta in the SC/BW strategy section.

I don't know any builds for this in SC2 and would fail on my own discovery

After the reset I've thought of trying to rush for mutas in the 5 practice games (which I've skipped the last time around) just to be safe from ground and see how this builds works. Don't know how much of a difference there is in this build if you'd have to account for potential ground assualt. Also I'd like to try this build against a personal friend of mine who's a slow and a bit of a defensive Protoss player. Pre-reset we where both Silver players though I'm slightly stronger than he is.

Anyways I'd like to know some fair 2 Hatch Builds or whatever works for some reasonably fast and strong mutas. Also what's the point behind this strategy? To catch him off-guard and win immediately, to contain and harass while expanding or what's the general gameplan?

Any help and thoughts about this would be much appreciated
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 11:20:51
April 02 2010 11:19 GMT
#2
I go 2 hatch muta builds vs terran fairly often to possibly pick off some scvs and keep them in their base while I expand/tech to something else and establish a strong economy.

VS toss lately I feel like I almost have to get hydras before mutas as the mutas just come too late. Also I usually can't get my expansions gas up and running for long before most toss do their first push. And I definitely don't go muta if I see a lot of sentries. If I see maybe an unusually high number of immortals or a colossus then maybe I would throw down a spire.

I feel like zerg is a very reactive race and it's pretty tough to go into a matchcup against any decent player and say that you will simply go fast muta.
#1 Kwanro Fan
heynes
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany201 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 13:38:26
April 02 2010 13:38 GMT
#3
i´m in silver league and i often do a 14 hatch 13 pool build 2-3 sunkens at the nat. and after scouting his army size i decide the tech/army composition. U have to be aware of drops. burrowd lings and single lings around the map help u to choose what to do. Mutas are great i think they are fast deal good damage and u can always keep the enemy at their base i feel. With the early expansion u really have the gas to keep pushing gas intesive untis.

But im a noob so dunno ^^
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 02 2010 17:48 GMT
#4
Sure it's not the best decision to load a game thinking I'll tech straight to mutas no matter what or to not wanting to deviate too much from that gameplay. Still I wouldn't mind some more concrete build orders just to get a feel for it say against the A.I. That way I might improve more by trying someone else's somewhat proven build then just fooling around on my own. Do like the 14 hatch 13 pool suggestion but then there's questions about when to lair, when to spire and when to power. Even if it's just a rough build with some general timings would be better say for a larger map like Desert Oasis (ground wise) to try and see how it goes.

Also like the idea of being able to contain the Terran for a bit while I more freely can expo or tech. Also in SC/BW the optimal number of mutas was 11+Overlord. Is there a specific number in SC2 that's good to get for harassment, and then just sustain the number and do other things with your resources?

And thanks so far
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
caldo149
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States469 Posts
April 02 2010 18:26 GMT
#5
The optimum number of mutas could be 5 so you can kill scvs in 1 shot, but if you want to take down turrets then perhaps enough to 2 shot the turret would be good; 14 i think. (unless they got building armor, then you'll need more.)
Hellions are my homeboys
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
April 02 2010 19:28 GMT
#6
On April 03 2010 03:26 caldo149 wrote:
The optimum number of mutas could be 5 so you can kill scvs in 1 shot, but if you want to take down turrets then perhaps enough to 2 shot the turret would be good; 14 i think. (unless they got building armor, then you'll need more.)


...Yeah good luck getting 14 mutas in a realistic game.

Optimally you could move out with 6-7 mutas just picking off stray scvs/buildings/being a nuisance. DO NOT engage the turrets as you are guaranteed to lose 1 against anything more than 1 turret, so it's a bad trade off for you. After the initial mutas immediately take your third and transition to banelings/lings.
We spend our youth attaining wealth, and our wealth attaining youth.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 02 2010 22:23 GMT
#7
Any builds would still be much appreciated

Okay will try to remember 5 mutas one shots scvs but what about probes and drones? Anyways 6-7 seems like a fair number to try out so thanks for that. Will have to see how it pans out

Seriously are turrets that good against mutas right now?? Damn. Not like JD dancing around a bunch of them in SC/BW then. Luckily the last time I've played against my friend he didn't seem to know sentries would be good versus mutas. Maybe I can still pwn him with with a bunch of fliers
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
April 02 2010 22:28 GMT
#8
All you have to do is make 2 sunkens and lings vs toss and deny scouting. I don't muta vs terran anymore though so I can't help you there.
<3 Moonbattles
Twe3k
Profile Joined August 2009
89 Posts
April 02 2010 22:41 GMT
#9
I'm not necessarily the greatest Zerg but I do like my BO's. (I play random Gold league)

I like to open
8 Ovie
13 pool
14 gas
16 ovie
16 queen
during early game, till about 30 population. I keep to the rule, larva spawned at the hatchery = DRONES and larva created by larva injection = ZERGLINGS.

Anyhoo First lings pop at about 20 population than I expand and grab my second gas. while pumping more Lings getting Ling speed immediately and lair tech get gas rolling at your xpo. drop spire asap go "scout" him with 36 speed graded lings or so. at this point you have lots of options as to how to follow out the rest of the game. you have a strong ground force to hold off any harassment and 8 + Mutas coming instantly after your spire finishes. if your fighting a turtle you can nydus him and what is more fun than mass Zling Nydus canal Muta love on Terran?
Lets Burn! <_/_/_D
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
April 02 2010 22:55 GMT
#10
Mutas are great against people who underestimate hw many you can get right as your spire pops. Many terrans play on as normal with just a few more marines and then you can rape. But if the terran does a thor or two and turrets then its hard to suceed.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #253
EmpressLilyy27
Liquipedia
WardiTV Spring Champion…
11:00
Playoffs
ByuN vs SolarLIVE!
WardiTV1202
IntoTheiNu 729
TaKeTV 402
TKL 238
Rex164
IndyStarCraft 121
Ryung 104
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 390
TKL 238
Rex 164
IndyStarCraft 121
Ryung 104
mouzStarbuck 48
trigger 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2002
Shuttle 1493
Jaedong 1061
EffOrt 934
Horang2 802
Soulkey 639
Mini 465
Snow 248
hero 208
firebathero 203
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 202
Mong 172
actioN 161
Movie 87
Sharp 84
Zeus 83
Hyun 63
Sea.KH 54
JYJ 53
ToSsGirL 42
910 42
Aegong 37
sorry 22
HiyA 22
Rock 21
Sacsri 19
GoRush 18
soO 17
Barracks 16
Terrorterran 15
IntoTheRainbow 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Dota 2
qojqva2568
Dendi1312
420jenkins225
BananaSlamJamma140
Counter-Strike
fl0m6679
olofmeister880
kRYSTAL_13
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor124
MindelVK4
Other Games
singsing2561
Day[9].tv1186
Liquid`RaSZi1038
hiko859
Lowko471
B2W.Neo405
crisheroes343
DeMusliM294
Hui .196
Liquid`VortiX85
QueenE80
KnowMe56
Trikslyr37
ArmadaUGS31
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream3389
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 36
• poizon28 23
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota233
League of Legends
• Nemesis1855
• Jankos1612
• TFBlade502
Other Games
• Day9tv1186
Upcoming Events
OSC
8h 39m
CranKy Ducklings
18h 39m
WardiTV Spring Champion…
19h 39m
Cure vs SKillous
Big Brain Bouts
1d
Maplez vs eGGz
Reynor vs Solar
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 19h
GSL
1d 20h
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
GSL
2 days
[ Show More ]
Patches Events
3 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-16
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Stake Pulse Beat 1
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.