• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:46
CET 15:46
KST 23:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1812Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1605 users

2 Hatch Muta Builds/Transistions

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 02 2010 11:05 GMT
#1
I've searched but could only find 2 Hatch Muta in the SC/BW strategy section.

I don't know any builds for this in SC2 and would fail on my own discovery

After the reset I've thought of trying to rush for mutas in the 5 practice games (which I've skipped the last time around) just to be safe from ground and see how this builds works. Don't know how much of a difference there is in this build if you'd have to account for potential ground assualt. Also I'd like to try this build against a personal friend of mine who's a slow and a bit of a defensive Protoss player. Pre-reset we where both Silver players though I'm slightly stronger than he is.

Anyways I'd like to know some fair 2 Hatch Builds or whatever works for some reasonably fast and strong mutas. Also what's the point behind this strategy? To catch him off-guard and win immediately, to contain and harass while expanding or what's the general gameplan?

Any help and thoughts about this would be much appreciated
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 11:20:51
April 02 2010 11:19 GMT
#2
I go 2 hatch muta builds vs terran fairly often to possibly pick off some scvs and keep them in their base while I expand/tech to something else and establish a strong economy.

VS toss lately I feel like I almost have to get hydras before mutas as the mutas just come too late. Also I usually can't get my expansions gas up and running for long before most toss do their first push. And I definitely don't go muta if I see a lot of sentries. If I see maybe an unusually high number of immortals or a colossus then maybe I would throw down a spire.

I feel like zerg is a very reactive race and it's pretty tough to go into a matchcup against any decent player and say that you will simply go fast muta.
#1 Kwanro Fan
heynes
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany201 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 13:38:26
April 02 2010 13:38 GMT
#3
i´m in silver league and i often do a 14 hatch 13 pool build 2-3 sunkens at the nat. and after scouting his army size i decide the tech/army composition. U have to be aware of drops. burrowd lings and single lings around the map help u to choose what to do. Mutas are great i think they are fast deal good damage and u can always keep the enemy at their base i feel. With the early expansion u really have the gas to keep pushing gas intesive untis.

But im a noob so dunno ^^
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 02 2010 17:48 GMT
#4
Sure it's not the best decision to load a game thinking I'll tech straight to mutas no matter what or to not wanting to deviate too much from that gameplay. Still I wouldn't mind some more concrete build orders just to get a feel for it say against the A.I. That way I might improve more by trying someone else's somewhat proven build then just fooling around on my own. Do like the 14 hatch 13 pool suggestion but then there's questions about when to lair, when to spire and when to power. Even if it's just a rough build with some general timings would be better say for a larger map like Desert Oasis (ground wise) to try and see how it goes.

Also like the idea of being able to contain the Terran for a bit while I more freely can expo or tech. Also in SC/BW the optimal number of mutas was 11+Overlord. Is there a specific number in SC2 that's good to get for harassment, and then just sustain the number and do other things with your resources?

And thanks so far
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
caldo149
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States469 Posts
April 02 2010 18:26 GMT
#5
The optimum number of mutas could be 5 so you can kill scvs in 1 shot, but if you want to take down turrets then perhaps enough to 2 shot the turret would be good; 14 i think. (unless they got building armor, then you'll need more.)
Hellions are my homeboys
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
April 02 2010 19:28 GMT
#6
On April 03 2010 03:26 caldo149 wrote:
The optimum number of mutas could be 5 so you can kill scvs in 1 shot, but if you want to take down turrets then perhaps enough to 2 shot the turret would be good; 14 i think. (unless they got building armor, then you'll need more.)


...Yeah good luck getting 14 mutas in a realistic game.

Optimally you could move out with 6-7 mutas just picking off stray scvs/buildings/being a nuisance. DO NOT engage the turrets as you are guaranteed to lose 1 against anything more than 1 turret, so it's a bad trade off for you. After the initial mutas immediately take your third and transition to banelings/lings.
We spend our youth attaining wealth, and our wealth attaining youth.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 02 2010 22:23 GMT
#7
Any builds would still be much appreciated

Okay will try to remember 5 mutas one shots scvs but what about probes and drones? Anyways 6-7 seems like a fair number to try out so thanks for that. Will have to see how it pans out

Seriously are turrets that good against mutas right now?? Damn. Not like JD dancing around a bunch of them in SC/BW then. Luckily the last time I've played against my friend he didn't seem to know sentries would be good versus mutas. Maybe I can still pwn him with with a bunch of fliers
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
April 02 2010 22:28 GMT
#8
All you have to do is make 2 sunkens and lings vs toss and deny scouting. I don't muta vs terran anymore though so I can't help you there.
<3 Moonbattles
Twe3k
Profile Joined August 2009
89 Posts
April 02 2010 22:41 GMT
#9
I'm not necessarily the greatest Zerg but I do like my BO's. (I play random Gold league)

I like to open
8 Ovie
13 pool
14 gas
16 ovie
16 queen
during early game, till about 30 population. I keep to the rule, larva spawned at the hatchery = DRONES and larva created by larva injection = ZERGLINGS.

Anyhoo First lings pop at about 20 population than I expand and grab my second gas. while pumping more Lings getting Ling speed immediately and lair tech get gas rolling at your xpo. drop spire asap go "scout" him with 36 speed graded lings or so. at this point you have lots of options as to how to follow out the rest of the game. you have a strong ground force to hold off any harassment and 8 + Mutas coming instantly after your spire finishes. if your fighting a turtle you can nydus him and what is more fun than mass Zling Nydus canal Muta love on Terran?
Lets Burn! <_/_/_D
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
April 02 2010 22:55 GMT
#10
Mutas are great against people who underestimate hw many you can get right as your spire pops. Many terrans play on as normal with just a few more marines and then you can rape. But if the terran does a thor or two and turrets then its hard to suceed.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 22h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 378
Livibee 120
BRAT_OK 105
Railgan 67
trigger 58
RushiSC 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32253
EffOrt 1301
Stork 838
ggaemo 576
Barracks 323
firebathero 279
Hyun 126
Pusan 105
PianO 83
Zeus 55
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 55
Aegong 46
Mong 39
soO 35
scan(afreeca) 24
Movie 22
yabsab 14
SilentControl 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe830
syndereN778
febbydoto61
League of Legends
C9.Mang0447
Other Games
B2W.Neo1852
Fuzer 365
Mew2King119
ArmadaUGS117
ToD92
QueenE52
Rex19
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc265
• StrangeGG 65
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3040
• Nemesis2610
Upcoming Events
OSC
1d 22h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
3 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Patches Events
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-29
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.