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2 Hatch Muta Builds/Transistions

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3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 02 2010 11:05 GMT
#1
I've searched but could only find 2 Hatch Muta in the SC/BW strategy section.

I don't know any builds for this in SC2 and would fail on my own discovery

After the reset I've thought of trying to rush for mutas in the 5 practice games (which I've skipped the last time around) just to be safe from ground and see how this builds works. Don't know how much of a difference there is in this build if you'd have to account for potential ground assualt. Also I'd like to try this build against a personal friend of mine who's a slow and a bit of a defensive Protoss player. Pre-reset we where both Silver players though I'm slightly stronger than he is.

Anyways I'd like to know some fair 2 Hatch Builds or whatever works for some reasonably fast and strong mutas. Also what's the point behind this strategy? To catch him off-guard and win immediately, to contain and harass while expanding or what's the general gameplan?

Any help and thoughts about this would be much appreciated
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 11:20:51
April 02 2010 11:19 GMT
#2
I go 2 hatch muta builds vs terran fairly often to possibly pick off some scvs and keep them in their base while I expand/tech to something else and establish a strong economy.

VS toss lately I feel like I almost have to get hydras before mutas as the mutas just come too late. Also I usually can't get my expansions gas up and running for long before most toss do their first push. And I definitely don't go muta if I see a lot of sentries. If I see maybe an unusually high number of immortals or a colossus then maybe I would throw down a spire.

I feel like zerg is a very reactive race and it's pretty tough to go into a matchcup against any decent player and say that you will simply go fast muta.
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heynes
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany201 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 13:38:26
April 02 2010 13:38 GMT
#3
i´m in silver league and i often do a 14 hatch 13 pool build 2-3 sunkens at the nat. and after scouting his army size i decide the tech/army composition. U have to be aware of drops. burrowd lings and single lings around the map help u to choose what to do. Mutas are great i think they are fast deal good damage and u can always keep the enemy at their base i feel. With the early expansion u really have the gas to keep pushing gas intesive untis.

But im a noob so dunno ^^
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 02 2010 17:48 GMT
#4
Sure it's not the best decision to load a game thinking I'll tech straight to mutas no matter what or to not wanting to deviate too much from that gameplay. Still I wouldn't mind some more concrete build orders just to get a feel for it say against the A.I. That way I might improve more by trying someone else's somewhat proven build then just fooling around on my own. Do like the 14 hatch 13 pool suggestion but then there's questions about when to lair, when to spire and when to power. Even if it's just a rough build with some general timings would be better say for a larger map like Desert Oasis (ground wise) to try and see how it goes.

Also like the idea of being able to contain the Terran for a bit while I more freely can expo or tech. Also in SC/BW the optimal number of mutas was 11+Overlord. Is there a specific number in SC2 that's good to get for harassment, and then just sustain the number and do other things with your resources?

And thanks so far
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caldo149
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States469 Posts
April 02 2010 18:26 GMT
#5
The optimum number of mutas could be 5 so you can kill scvs in 1 shot, but if you want to take down turrets then perhaps enough to 2 shot the turret would be good; 14 i think. (unless they got building armor, then you'll need more.)
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AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
April 02 2010 19:28 GMT
#6
On April 03 2010 03:26 caldo149 wrote:
The optimum number of mutas could be 5 so you can kill scvs in 1 shot, but if you want to take down turrets then perhaps enough to 2 shot the turret would be good; 14 i think. (unless they got building armor, then you'll need more.)


...Yeah good luck getting 14 mutas in a realistic game.

Optimally you could move out with 6-7 mutas just picking off stray scvs/buildings/being a nuisance. DO NOT engage the turrets as you are guaranteed to lose 1 against anything more than 1 turret, so it's a bad trade off for you. After the initial mutas immediately take your third and transition to banelings/lings.
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3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 02 2010 22:23 GMT
#7
Any builds would still be much appreciated

Okay will try to remember 5 mutas one shots scvs but what about probes and drones? Anyways 6-7 seems like a fair number to try out so thanks for that. Will have to see how it pans out

Seriously are turrets that good against mutas right now?? Damn. Not like JD dancing around a bunch of them in SC/BW then. Luckily the last time I've played against my friend he didn't seem to know sentries would be good versus mutas. Maybe I can still pwn him with with a bunch of fliers
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Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
April 02 2010 22:28 GMT
#8
All you have to do is make 2 sunkens and lings vs toss and deny scouting. I don't muta vs terran anymore though so I can't help you there.
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Twe3k
Profile Joined August 2009
89 Posts
April 02 2010 22:41 GMT
#9
I'm not necessarily the greatest Zerg but I do like my BO's. (I play random Gold league)

I like to open
8 Ovie
13 pool
14 gas
16 ovie
16 queen
during early game, till about 30 population. I keep to the rule, larva spawned at the hatchery = DRONES and larva created by larva injection = ZERGLINGS.

Anyhoo First lings pop at about 20 population than I expand and grab my second gas. while pumping more Lings getting Ling speed immediately and lair tech get gas rolling at your xpo. drop spire asap go "scout" him with 36 speed graded lings or so. at this point you have lots of options as to how to follow out the rest of the game. you have a strong ground force to hold off any harassment and 8 + Mutas coming instantly after your spire finishes. if your fighting a turtle you can nydus him and what is more fun than mass Zling Nydus canal Muta love on Terran?
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
April 02 2010 22:55 GMT
#10
Mutas are great against people who underestimate hw many you can get right as your spire pops. Many terrans play on as normal with just a few more marines and then you can rape. But if the terran does a thor or two and turrets then its hard to suceed.
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