[M] (4) Omnivium by prodiG - Page 4

On June 29 2012 08:22 NewSunshine wrote:

There's also something to be said for designing a map knowing full well it will need spawn restrictions. Metropolis was specifically designed this way, and it's something we almost never do. Like I said, forcing spawns is not just about bad design, it can also be an element of good design.

On June 29 2012 08:22 NewSunshine wrote:

There's also something to be said for designing a map knowing full well it will need spawn restrictions. Metropolis was specifically designed this way, and it's something we almost never do. Like I said, forcing spawns is not just about bad design, it can also be an element of good design.

On June 29 2012 09:28 EatThePath wrote:
Forcing spawns to "fix" a map is stupid. You can always just redesign your map, and we're not so hard up for maps that we need to make do with half-measures, even though it seems to go that way.

Suggesting forced cross positions on a 4player rotational is like saying: "I think your car would be better as a wagon, let's just take out the engine." Anything with 4 wheels on 2 axles would suffice, it makes no sense.

On July 18 2012 06:16 HypertonicHydroponic wrote:
So here's a quick question: do your rock/towers actually work as intended? I assume that you want the tower to only be activated if the rock is broken, right? But those look like 6x6 rocks which, as I've tested before and did again just now to confirm, are not quite large enough to prevent the tower activation (2.5 radius) by any ground unit M-moving to the rock. Did you modify the rock size, the tower capture radius, or do something else (, or does it actually not work as intended -- yet)? (No, I have not opened up the map on B.net yet to see what is actually the case.)

In my quest to solve this problem way back on Blockbuster (TL map contest), I wound up utilizing the alpha-braxis rocks in a ring around the tower since they have an AI that allows them to be broken together as if they were all one unit.

On July 18 2012 06:42 FroznSmoke wrote:
Is there the possibility of this map being uploaded to the eu server? Even though it is still in beta i would like to play the map.

On July 18 2012 06:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
your posts are so beautiful josh

On July 18 2012 07:22 tehemperorer wrote:
As Protoss player I see restricting the proper 3rd to only 1 geyser is pretty much a red flag to veto the map. There's really no reason for that, just like there's no reason to place rocks on the third. Thoughts? What is the reasoning behind restricting the easy third to 1 geyser?

Look at it this way: In PvZ it is hard enough as it is to secure a third, why would you lessen the gains from finally achieving this? Protoss basically has no reason to do anything but 2 base builds because the 3rd with normal geysers is too hard to hold, and the 3rd with 1 geyser doesn't pay off. Another example: In PvT you need AoE or you lose. In PvT you typically get colossus first, which can be done on 2 bases. Once Vikings are fielded, you are in the process of getting your 3rd so you can also make Templar to be able to fight cost-effectively; this map cuts your ability to win in the later stages of the game because the lack of gas makes useful unit counts (either HT or Colossus or Stalkers) lower compared to Terran, who has other ways to mitigate the lack of a 6th geyser on the easy 3rd.

On July 18 2012 07:22 tehemperorer wrote:
As Protoss player I see restricting the proper 3rd to only 1 geyser is pretty much a red flag to veto the map. There's really no reason for that, just like there's no reason to place rocks on the third. Thoughts? What is the reasoning behind restricting the easy third to 1 geyser?

Look at it this way: In PvZ it is hard enough as it is to secure a third, why would you lessen the gains from finally achieving this? Protoss basically has no reason to do anything but 2 base builds because the 3rd with normal geysers is too hard to hold, and the 3rd with 1 geyser doesn't pay off. Another example: In PvT you need AoE or you lose. In PvT you typically get colossus first, which can be done on 2 bases. Once Vikings are fielded, you are in the process of getting your 3rd so you can also make Templar to be able to fight cost-effectively; this map cuts your ability to win in the later stages of the game because the lack of gas makes useful unit counts (either HT or Colossus or Stalkers) lower compared to Terran, who has other ways to mitigate the lack of a 6th geyser on the easy 3rd.