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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 05:01:03
April 25 2011 19:54 GMT
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-Textures have been given a drastic turn... for the better. Its taken 2 or 3 coats of fresh painting to get the look i want.
-Island is now mostly surrounded in line of site blockers
-Available on NA, perhaps more servers soon.
Meltage
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany613 Posts
April 25 2011 21:27 GMT
#2
Nice texturing overall and nice innovation with that middle island. We seldom see that. I like that you have towers that dont give away too much but still usable in some situations.

My first thougth was shouldn't the heartshape be gold and the gold be the third? But the distance to the nat seems right and the rocks do their part. I think the dropable highground at the very edge of the map is what's make the third too hard to defend and why I would choose the gold as a third... if it wasn't for that it's one gas only! So.. good base balance and interresting makro choices, I supose. The 9 oclock dropzone do look bigger than the oposite one, though?

Terran has both tanks and flying CCs. They need less love on this map. I say less dropzones

Lastly, why does the dropzones look
http://mentalbalans.se/aggedesign
Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 21:39:46
April 25 2011 21:36 GMT
#3
A one gas third will harm a Zerg player no matter how easy that expansion is in my honest opinion. I'd go for something similar to a Xel'naga Caverns main+nat+third layout, instead of trying to change the rocks and remove a geyser.

Flanking on this map for Zerg will be weird and annoying. You'd have to go around the center in the opposite direction to flank an enemy position on the high ground areas. It's good for counter-attacks as you said, but terrible for flanking an enemy army. The XWTs do not seem to reveal the central paths around the island (correct me if I'm wrong), which I think they should so that you can tell when someone is attacking and when someone is counter-attacking.

I understand that the entire idea behind this map is the island in the center, but I'd consider rethinking it.

I like the textures of the map though. You could put some mist and lighting in the darkness surrounding the map for aesthetics, making it look sort of mystical.

EDIT: The area behind the mineral lines would seem to favor Terran in my opinion because it gives them a lot more room to drop. A fast expand to the center with a flying CC and then a PF will be hard for a Zerg player to crack because they can't do much until Brood Lords come out, but Protoss can always use blink Stalkers or just warp units to the island.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
April 25 2011 22:13 GMT
#4
@Meltage, yeah you cant drop up there.
@Antares777, the flanking issue for zerg is something that i havent worked out yet, im thinking of shrinking the island giving more room for that. I like your mist idea^ yeah and the XWTers are still in beta.
Meltage
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany613 Posts
April 26 2011 13:42 GMT
#5
I would fill those highgrounds with doodads .. rocks? So that they don't look pathable. Or you coudl remeove them, I mena that base is vulnerable enough - it doesn't need to favour air-harrass also.
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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
April 27 2011 20:04 GMT
#6
update:
-Gold rocks removed
-Natural entrance has been choked a little
-Island shrunk, (the outer rim is now more open.)
-Doodad rocks added behind the highground, for clarity.
-Aesthetics upped, and lightened the textures in some areas.
-Fixed a minor terrain imbalance
-Revamped mineral lines

If people feel this is a good set layout i will finish polishing the map. Any more suggestions / thoughts?
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 23:47:21
April 27 2011 23:45 GMT
#7
What I think would be awesome would be put LoS blockers on the island but around the whole outside of it. Since it's in the direct middle of the map it'll already be kind of hard to hold. The LoS blockers will keep it a little more safe because unless the enemy has flying units they won't be able to notice the middle island is taken. It also makes it so if you take the island, you aren't able to just turtle up on it either because with the LoS you won't be able to see onto the main land without air units. :D
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 00:46:03
April 28 2011 00:45 GMT
#8
I think you should put 8 patches on each side of the island instead of 4. That way, it would have 16 patches instead of 8. And maybe both gasses could be rich vespene. This would effectively make it a "double-base."

I say this because this base looks EXTREMELY hard to hold. I can't really judge the distance from the pics, but it looks susceptible to tanks, broods, colossi, and pylon warp-ins from the outside of the island. Thus, I think since the island is such high risk, it should have a high reward. Otherwise, I doubt anyone would try to take that base, as it's just not logical.
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