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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
1) If you mule the bottom minerals at 1 o'clock expansion, the mules get stuck. I got 2 mules stuck there  ![[image loading]](/staff/konadora//Screenshot20101101_12_06_32.jpg) 2) Not sure if it's a map-related issue, but my tanks won't complete when they are suppose to. (Ignore the 200/200 food supply, it happened even before I was maxed) ![[image loading]](/staff/konadora//Screenshot20101101_11_42_32.jpg) | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
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Shron
United States162 Posts
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
On November 01 2010 12:58 Shron wrote: The tanks weren't completed because there was no opening for them to spawn. As far as I know, this map isn't an official iCCup map anyway, so they can't be liable for other issues. oh wtf, it can't spawn between the factories and tech labs? :S i'm so chobo lol and this isn't official iccup map? :o | ||
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monitor
United States2404 Posts
The mule issue will be fixed immediately. I think the tank issue is just because there isn't room for them to come out though. By the way-- the map is sort of on stand by because tanks can siege almost the entire edge of the main and natural Remaking it to fix this problem will be impossible while being faithful to the original... | ||
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G_Wen
Canada525 Posts
2) Not a map issue. It's a game issue where the game has no place to put your units. Same thing happens if you have too many units surrounding a hatchery when the eggs pop. IIRC the eggs will disappear and the units will show up when the units blocking the hatchery move out of the way. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
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prodiG
Canada2016 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
the mule issue | ||
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monitor
United States2404 Posts
As I said above, this map has a lot of problems. We will be remaking it soon, as close to the original as possible while fixing the tank issue. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
default map size as in, scrap station etc etc size. because if the map size was bigger i think the issue about the siege tanks might be more or less solved, but that might mean remaking whole map (idk about the editor so.. :s) | ||
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G_Wen
Canada525 Posts
As monitor previously said, we'll be remaking it "soon". | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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monitor
United States2404 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:28 0neder wrote: Any word on the 're-remake' of this map? I would love to take it on if anyone hasn't yet. We really need more badlands maps in the tourney map pool right now, TOO MUCH BLUE!!!! We have tried a lot, but unfortunately found no good way to make it balanced enough for the current sc2 metagame. Go for it though! | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:34 monitor wrote: We have tried a lot, but unfortunately found no good way to make it balanced enough for the current sc2 metagame. Go for it though!monitor, could you or someone else explain briefly the current balance issues to me? I didn't play it the first time through, but things have changed so much since then... | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:40 0neder wrote: monitor, could you or someone else explain briefly the current balance issues to me? I didn't play it the first time through, but things have changed so much since then... A lot of it has to do with spacing issues. If a Terran sets up a position at the side of Zerg's main, then tanks can shell the entrance and cause all sorts of havoc. Another thing is that Starcraft 2 is far less position based, and high ground advantage is mitigated to almost zero in most cases. This being the premise of the orignal HBR, the map doesn't actually work well. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
I love the horizontal map layout in spite of the ridges' role being diminished. I am going to try to remake this as a larger version with tweaked spacing, and maybe even some LoS blockers on the ridges. Any more specific tips would be appreciated. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
On August 19 2011 08:24 Barrin wrote: For clarity... In BW:
In SC2:
50% miss chance actually. That's what testing showed. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
Thanks! | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
Got any experience in the editor yet? | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On August 19 2011 08:24 Barrin wrote: Oh yeah I forgot to add, and I don't have a source and this might be hear-say: Blizzard said they will probably change the high ground mechanic advantage in HotS. And me personally, I think the differences in the high ground mechanic from BW to SC2 had a profoundly negative effect. Agreed. But I hate you for getting my hopes up now, I thought it was a lost cause. EDIT: Where can I find this on battle.net or the web? I'm on NA server. EDIT 2: NM I got it. | ||
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