• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:09
CEST 04:09
KST 11:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun8[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists20[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) FSL Season 10 Individual Championship WardiTV Spring Cup
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review ASL21 General Discussion Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May Korean KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2276 users

3451 PES2009Z SubtractT

Forum Index > Replays
Post a Reply
Normal
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-03 01:49:07
June 03 2009 01:48 GMT
#1
Point of Emphasis: 30 min TvZ between progamer and Tl.net resident amazing player RET. Wonderful defense, plague/swarm and macro. Very close game..

+ Show Spoiler +
sad ret loss
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5532 Posts
June 03 2009 02:40 GMT
#2
Introducing the new progaming team, WoJin Stas!!
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
gettodaroflchoppa
Profile Joined May 2009
104 Posts
June 03 2009 02:49 GMT
#3
medic follow yay
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
June 03 2009 02:57 GMT
#4
Ret is awesome.
He needs to try keep better care of his vessels tho!
more Retplays please!
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
June 03 2009 03:14 GMT
#5
On June 03 2009 11:40 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Introducing the new progaming team, WoJin Stas!!


ROFRLFROFLRFOL
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-03 03:18:29
June 03 2009 03:18 GMT
#6
That was sick. I wish I was good enough to chat casually with progamers.

+ Show Spoiler +
Don't ever quit ret! ;;
parasite
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5532 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-03 03:19:46
June 03 2009 03:19 GMT
#7
On June 03 2009 12:14 Day[9] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2009 11:40 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Introducing the new progaming team, WoJin Stas!!


ROFRLFROFLRFOL

Comic genius I know. Good game though, I hope ret isn't really quitting
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
June 03 2009 04:17 GMT
#8
poor child, cute chat though T_T
Entusman #12
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 03 2009 04:51 GMT
#9
pretty sick game, child has good english
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-03 06:59:41
June 03 2009 06:58 GMT
#10
+ Show Spoiler +
that last expand costed him so much. Usually when I watch reps of terran having such a big advantage in map control(cause of bigger army) and population I almost 100% sure the T will win. T_T
didnt like how the Z won.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
June 03 2009 08:45 GMT
#11
+ Show Spoiler +


See what happens when you retire Ret? you can't even beat B-Team progamers after 1 day. plz comeback !^_^!
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
June 03 2009 09:53 GMT
#12
Wow. Good game indeed.
+ Show Spoiler +
Sick sick comeback. At one point it was 150 supply vs. 60 or so, and yet Z still won.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
Kolean.Tellan
Profile Joined May 2008
Belgium217 Posts
June 03 2009 11:01 GMT
#13
to much respect for opponent, going main a few times would have sealed the deal gg tho
you can no more win a war then you can win an earthquake.
Nanoo
Profile Joined March 2009
229 Posts
June 03 2009 12:51 GMT
#14
nice chat..do u have any with top progamers like bisu, jd, etc?
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
June 03 2009 15:50 GMT
#15
Zerg's defiler use and overall micro were unholy
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
June 03 2009 17:56 GMT
#16
Awesome plague/swarm use man.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-03 19:55:03
June 03 2009 19:44 GMT
#17
Hmm, ret has good strategical skill, yet like most other foreigners his minerals go up to like 1600 once he heads out with his army for the first time. He could have taken his second nat and built alot of units during that time with some multi-tasking. I'm not hating on Ret, just saying what is obvious.

Small stuff like building his third CC in a weird place. Building his barracks so his vultures are stuck inside his base. And he doesn't transfer his idle scv:s to his only running back expo. Neither does he try to take a new expo for quite some time. He isn't using any dropships, although there are nice dropping options, like at zerg back nat expo for example.

Yet he makes up for this with his good knowledge of BW and good strategy. But I dislike sloppy play and I find his play a bit sloppy. Then again I'm used to watching progamer VOD:s, so obviousy I'm comparing to pros.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 03 2009 19:50 GMT
#18
On June 03 2009 18:53 Hans-Titan wrote:
Wow. Good game indeed.
+ Show Spoiler +
Sick sick comeback. At one point it was 150 supply vs. 60 or so, and yet Z still won.

+ Show Spoiler +
kind of reminiscent of ret vs xiaozi no?
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4520 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-03 20:27:07
June 03 2009 20:06 GMT
#19
On June 04 2009 04:44 Foucault wrote:
Hmm, ret has good strategical skill, yet like most other foreigners his minerals go up to like 1600 once he heads out with his army for the first time. He could have taken his second nat and built alot of units during that time with some multi-tasking. I'm not hating on Ret, just saying what is obvious.

Small stuff like building his third CC in a weird place. Building his barracks so his vultures are stuck inside his base. And he doesn't transfer his idle scv:s to his only running back expo. Neither does he try to take a new expo for quite some time. He isn't using any dropships, although there are nice dropping options, like at zerg back nat expo for example.

Yet he makes up for this with his good knowledge of BW and good strategy. But I dislike sloppy play and I find his play a bit sloppy. Then again I'm used to watching progamer VOD:s, so obviousy I'm comparing to pros.



none of these games on here are perfect TvZ's by me. I do come close to the perfect game every once in a while but once games go long it's hard to keep doing everything perfect for a long period of time.. games such as these are kind of messy and u have to watch ur army all the time..
my vultures were stuck for a while cuz of 1 scv, not barrack placement 8D

I didn't drop because whenever I play Child and I use dropships he just scourges them.

My minerals don't go up once I move out with my army unless I miss depots which in this game I did twice at crucial times - bad.
Team Liquid
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
June 03 2009 20:38 GMT
#20
On June 04 2009 05:06 ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2009 04:44 Foucault wrote:
Hmm, ret has good strategical skill, yet like most other foreigners his minerals go up to like 1600 once he heads out with his army for the first time. He could have taken his second nat and built alot of units during that time with some multi-tasking. I'm not hating on Ret, just saying what is obvious.

Small stuff like building his third CC in a weird place. Building his barracks so his vultures are stuck inside his base. And he doesn't transfer his idle scv:s to his only running back expo. Neither does he try to take a new expo for quite some time. He isn't using any dropships, although there are nice dropping options, like at zerg back nat expo for example.

Yet he makes up for this with his good knowledge of BW and good strategy. But I dislike sloppy play and I find his play a bit sloppy. Then again I'm used to watching progamer VOD:s, so obviousy I'm comparing to pros.



none of these games on here are perfect TvZ's by me. I do come close to the perfect game every once in a while but once games go long it's hard to keep doing everything perfect for a long period of time.. games such as these are kind of messy and u have to watch ur army all the time..
my vultures were stuck for a while cuz of 1 scv, not barrack placement 8D

I didn't drop because whenever I play Child and I use dropships he just scourges them.

My minerals don't go up once I move out with my army unless I miss depots which in this game I did twice at crucial times - bad.


Yeah I've seen you play better TvZ for sure. That's a reason why I wrote my first reply, because I know you're better. Also wow, if Idra had your attitude people would probably like him.

And yeah, since I'm Terran myself I know how messy long TvZ:s get, but I think one really becomes a monster in TvZ when you can multitask like a maniac. You obviously have strategy/understanding of BW down.

Oh it was a SCV? My bad then. Okay, perfectly good explanations. Everyone miss depots here and there, even pros.

Also mad props to you for not taking what I wrote the wrong way and actually discussing it. You sir, are adorable and awesome.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
June 03 2009 21:15 GMT
#21
That strat is cute;) +1 way before 7min mark. gg
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
June 03 2009 22:42 GMT
#22
Fuck>:|
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 03 2009 22:52 GMT
#23
--- Nuked ---
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
June 04 2009 00:23 GMT
#24
ret more replays please! your tvz is aweosome!
0cz3c
Profile Joined February 2008
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 00:34:28
June 04 2009 00:34 GMT
#25
Incredible game ret. o.o
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17735 Posts
June 04 2009 03:04 GMT
#26
On June 04 2009 06:15 StylishVODs wrote:
That strat is cute;) +1 way before 7min mark. gg

used since way back
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7499 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 05:12:46
June 04 2009 05:12 GMT
#27
On June 04 2009 06:15 StylishVODs wrote:
That strat is cute;) +1 way before 7min mark. gg

it is an evil build.

I love watching ret create never ending streams of units.

TBH I was unimpressed by childs play, he was completely blah in all respects until defilers then he was fucking insane. I'm judging his play by other pro gamers replay(as a standard) not against my own level fyi.
youlijp
Profile Joined February 2009
Brazil112 Posts
June 04 2009 13:54 GMT
#28
Yeah, pretty nice from Ret for taking criticism in a constructive way! Ima watch that replay right now! =D
"I hate quotations" - Chang E. I.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
June 04 2009 21:10 GMT
#29
Ret ur so sick!

Child's defiler was amazing though, too bad you lost..
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
June 05 2009 04:18 GMT
#30
early game banter priceless:
+ Show Spoiler +
child: most korean man go army keke
ret:i know but its sad to see progamer go
child:
ret: will u join ace?
child: i want. but hard. im not champion
ret: but i think you are better than yellow and gorush now
child: keke

but ace selection is all about face.
Splunge
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany925 Posts
June 05 2009 11:51 GMT
#31
that game was really awesome.. and close!
Hundredth
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom142 Posts
June 05 2009 15:40 GMT
#32
lol @ how Child's defilers were delayed by like 2/3 mins because of something getting in the way of the drone

that really put the pressure on
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
June 05 2009 16:19 GMT
#33
Awesome game, thanks!
maVi
Profile Joined June 2003
Germany542 Posts
June 05 2009 17:04 GMT
#34
more ret reps pls
Bebop Berserker
Profile Joined April 2009
United States246 Posts
June 05 2009 19:40 GMT
#35
I really liked the game except the very end ret's macro (especially sv) went to shit.) thats okay. Cant win em all.
Whatever happens, happens.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 05 2009 22:22 GMT
#36
sick game. ret would have had that if he took care of 3 earlier
hugitout
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States379 Posts
June 06 2009 06:48 GMT
#37
best replay ive seen in a long time, damn nice
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 06 2009 11:03 GMT
#38
Pretty nice game
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 06 2009 19:13 GMT
#39
ret releasing a rep pack would be the best thing ever
VarsityUser
Profile Joined June 2009
United States84 Posts
June 07 2009 02:50 GMT
#40
awesome replay, great playing. impressed how you hung in at the end with all those sick plagues.. I think the vessel count was low but games vs progamer are never easy or clearly thought. sick game
If its not too much to ask, I'd like my stats returned. I feel I deserve them - Combat-EX
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 08 2009 15:51 GMT
#41
Very nice game =]
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
June 10 2009 00:30 GMT
#42
Child's play certainly lacked extravagance.

It wasn't super super tight either, I saw a lot of stuff like drones left burrowed unnecessarily long. Creep colonies not morphing themselves for a good number of seconds while ret was attacking.

+ Show Spoiler +
Irridated ultralisk against plauged m&m is really painful to watch
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
StarCraft Evolution League #21
CranKy Ducklings91
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 133
SpeCial 114
Nina 68
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6451
Artosis 670
910 42
NaDa 31
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm416
monkeys_forever340
League of Legends
Doublelift4303
JimRising 541
Counter-Strike
taco 359
Other Games
summit1g9123
Day[9].tv732
C9.Mang0578
WinterStarcraft232
Maynarde80
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1108
BasetradeTV136
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream59
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 75
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt214
Other Games
• Scarra1185
• Day9tv732
Upcoming Events
GSL
7h 21m
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
7h 51m
Big Gabe
9h 51m
Replay Cast
21h 51m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Escore
1d 7h
OSC
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
IPSL
3 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Flash
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-28
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.