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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-13 03:46:01
March 13 2009 03:45 GMT
#1
Point of Emphasis: Really nice comeback by one of these players. Goes down to a suedo elimination game but one guy has the advantage fairly well! Is it enough?

+ Show Spoiler +
YEP
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 13 2009 08:04 GMT
#2
+ Show Spoiler +


HoRRoR won't be amused to see this replay here.. He's not too happy with the result though

CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 13 2009 09:50 GMT
#3
protoss is difficult~
really~
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-13 16:15:45
March 13 2009 12:56 GMT
#4
lawl, the two people i hate the most in the bw community in one replay.....oh well
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HoRRoR.T-ScT-
Profile Joined March 2007
Germany51 Posts
March 13 2009 19:36 GMT
#5
fresse du spast
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
March 14 2009 00:32 GMT
#6
On March 14 2009 04:36 HoRRoR.T-ScT- wrote:
fresse du spast


LOL, yeah he doesn't seem happy
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
March 14 2009 05:06 GMT
#7
On March 14 2009 04:36 HoRRoR.T-ScT- wrote:
fresse du spast


LMAO, best replay-response ever! exigent, did you take German classes?
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
March 14 2009 07:26 GMT
#8
On March 13 2009 21:56 MasterReY wrote:
lawl, the two people i hate the most in the bw community in one replay.....oh well


Why don't you like them?
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
March 14 2009 11:18 GMT
#9
oh, once again HoRRoR shows his massive BM......
this fake "gm" image in the international community will fall soon if you keep it like that horror.

every german knows ur the biggest bm player in german broodwar since razz.cope.

btw. translation of his post: "shut the fuck up, you idiot", just because i post my reasoned opinion. i didn't even tell why to save you, but well.....

Yea, like i said seraphim, he's the most bm guy in the german scene and everyone who reads forums on broodwar.de knows that.
But then when he got good (i dont deny that horror is a good player) he started to be "fake-gm" for the international community.
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Profile Joined March 2007
Germany51 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-14 12:59:19
March 14 2009 12:53 GMT
#10
don't cry please only because I'm bm to you
btw I would translate it as "shut the fuck up you stupid son of a bitch".

€: I cant see any "fake-gm" (LOOOOL, victim) in this posts
AND LOL, I just read it "I didnt tell it to save you" LOOOOL :D
So I'm banned on bw.de forum, right? No am I not banned? Why that? I thought I'm the bmest guy over there?! I dont even got a penaulty? Hmmm very mysterious!
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-14 21:21:14
March 14 2009 13:52 GMT
#11
haha dude.....you werent bm to me because im not writing anything in the broodwar.de forums(apart from the bwcl section T_T)

See, i don't need to argue about this case, its not my problem. I just posted a bit more details because you insulted me without any real reason. I know that at least 90% of the german community in the broodwar.de forums think your very bm and your probably not banned because your a good player and you are more gm in public places since you play in div1.

btw: You might remember that one day, when we had to play in an Haupauge cup.
We both didn't know if it was bo1 or bo3 and then we decided to play and see what it was after the game. You picked zerg and tried to 4pool me. Needless to say you failed against me.
Anyway, back in the channel i alt+tabbed and checked if it was bo3 or bo1. It was bo1, so you were out of the tourney. Your friends in the channel asked "Horror, win? win?"......
I guess you were embarrassed or whatever that you lost vs a "noname" so early in the cup, so you started a MASSIVE flamefest, claiming i told you im sure it was bo3 before the game, which is a blatant lie.
If you deny this, no problem. I have the replay and i think i should have screens. I can send if anyone doesnt believe me, but i won't post them here as a post, because i don't want to start an argument here.

I wont post anything concerning this topic here anymore.
I won't respond to your insults anymore. I have nothing else to say.
Bye
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HoRRoR.T-ScT-
Profile Joined March 2007
Germany51 Posts
March 14 2009 15:34 GMT
#12
are you stalking me? O_O
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
March 14 2009 19:52 GMT
#13
On March 15 2009 00:34 HoRRoR.T-ScT- wrote:
are you stalking me? O_O


No...its called replying...were you stalking him when you replied? 0o
HoRRoR.T-ScT-
Profile Joined March 2007
Germany51 Posts
March 14 2009 20:35 GMT
#14
;-) I was referering to the part right after "btw:"
I know nothing about it nor do I even care :D
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
March 15 2009 05:55 GMT
#15
On March 13 2009 18:50 IdrA wrote:
protoss is difficult~
really~

Cry more. Surely you'll agree that Rush Hour is massively T>P.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
March 15 2009 08:07 GMT
#16
On March 13 2009 21:56 MasterReY wrote:
lawl, the two people i hate the most in the bw community in one replay.....oh well

And why you dislike Arew ? o,o
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 15 2009 11:28 GMT
#17
On March 15 2009 14:55 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 18:50 IdrA wrote:
protoss is difficult~
really~

Cry more. Surely you'll agree that Rush Hour is massively T>P.

yep
tvp
4 base vs 4 base
150 supply vs 120 supply
on the best tvp map in recent history

protoss wins easy.
you make an excellent point sir
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
March 15 2009 13:35 GMT
#18
On March 15 2009 17:07 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 21:56 MasterReY wrote:
lawl, the two people i hate the most in the bw community in one replay.....oh well

And why you dislike Arew ? o,o


Basically quite similar to HoRRoR.
I played him in a iccup tournament with a money prize.
PvP, we both build our armies up without much action.
He went goon/rvr and i went pure goons + obs.
So i placed my units in the middle of the map in a circle to have the better position in the fight.
When he came out, i had an observer @ his army(he didn't have observers yet) and his shuttle was @the front of his army. So having th better positioning, i decide to atatck and snipe his shuttle. Worked out as planned and i overun him.
After the match he started to flame me and claimed it was pure luck that i caught his shuttle.
He said he wasn't paying attention so it was luck......erm what?
Well its his mistake and moreover i had an observer so i could prepare my units to attack him and i guess he didnt expect that....

So anyways, i just dont like people who start to flame when they lost, because they are "gosus" and im an "unknown player". I have no respect for that behavior.
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Profile Joined March 2007
Germany51 Posts
March 15 2009 16:04 GMT
#19
du sollst immernoch die fresse halten
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
March 15 2009 18:46 GMT
#20
On March 15 2009 20:28 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 14:55 3clipse wrote:
On March 13 2009 18:50 IdrA wrote:
protoss is difficult~
really~

Cry more. Surely you'll agree that Rush Hour is massively T>P.

yep
tvp
4 base vs 4 base
150 supply vs 120 supply
on the best tvp map in recent history

protoss wins easy.
you make an excellent point sir

You're not making any sense. You readily admit that the map statistically favors Terran by a mile. This was an anomaly, Horror clearly wasn't playing his best.
Flopgun
Profile Joined August 2005
Germany274 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 18:55:32
March 15 2009 18:54 GMT
#21
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/10_Rush_Hour_3
PvT: 8-24 (25%)

rush hour isnt that hard for terran
Jaedong fighting
WildRed
Profile Joined March 2009
Vatican City State21 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 22:10:57
March 15 2009 22:09 GMT
#22
On March 15 2009 20:28 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 14:55 3clipse wrote:
On March 13 2009 18:50 IdrA wrote:
protoss is difficult~
really~

Cry more. Surely you'll agree that Rush Hour is massively T>P.

yep
tvp
4 base vs 4 base
150 supply vs 120 supply
on the best tvp map in recent history

protoss wins easy.
you make an excellent point sir


All you do is flame over garbage that you see as some sort of righteous quest. Get a life, go win something in Korea.

And this dumbass Horror needs to be banned...
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 16 2009 00:43 GMT
#23
On March 16 2009 03:46 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 20:28 IdrA wrote:
On March 15 2009 14:55 3clipse wrote:
On March 13 2009 18:50 IdrA wrote:
protoss is difficult~
really~

Cry more. Surely you'll agree that Rush Hour is massively T>P.

yep
tvp
4 base vs 4 base
150 supply vs 120 supply
on the best tvp map in recent history

protoss wins easy.
you make an excellent point sir

You're not making any sense. You readily admit that the map statistically favors Terran by a mile. This was an anomaly, Horror clearly wasn't playing his best.

what exactly is anomalous about invisible units and the ability to simply counter attack or recall if terran tries to do.. anything
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
March 16 2009 03:21 GMT
#24
On March 16 2009 09:43 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 03:46 3clipse wrote:
On March 15 2009 20:28 IdrA wrote:
On March 15 2009 14:55 3clipse wrote:
On March 13 2009 18:50 IdrA wrote:
protoss is difficult~
really~

Cry more. Surely you'll agree that Rush Hour is massively T>P.

yep
tvp
4 base vs 4 base
150 supply vs 120 supply
on the best tvp map in recent history

protoss wins easy.
you make an excellent point sir

You're not making any sense. You readily admit that the map statistically favors Terran by a mile. This was an anomaly, Horror clearly wasn't playing his best.

what exactly is anomalous about invisible units and the ability to simply counter attack or recall if terran tries to do.. anything

You're absolutely right. Progaming statistics over many thousands of games and hundreds of players which seem to suggest that the three races are balanced (or that Terran, in fact, has usually dominated) hold no relevence at all. Clearly we are seeing a consipracy of epic proportions in which all the most skilled gamers to ever play competive Starcraft have chosen Terran because they enjoy self-handicapping or are perhaps part of some kind of cult. Don't worry, your failures aren't your fault in any way.
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
March 16 2009 03:55 GMT
#25
On March 16 2009 03:54 Flopgun wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/10_Rush_Hour_3
PvT: 8-24 (25%)

rush hour isnt that hard for terran


ya, not that hard for terran but still too hard for Idra
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
March 17 2009 22:28 GMT
#26
On March 16 2009 09:43 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 03:46 3clipse wrote:
On March 15 2009 20:28 IdrA wrote:
On March 15 2009 14:55 3clipse wrote:
On March 13 2009 18:50 IdrA wrote:
protoss is difficult~
really~

Cry more. Surely you'll agree that Rush Hour is massively T>P.

yep
tvp
4 base vs 4 base
150 supply vs 120 supply
on the best tvp map in recent history

protoss wins easy.
you make an excellent point sir

You're not making any sense. You readily admit that the map statistically favors Terran by a mile. This was an anomaly, Horror clearly wasn't playing his best.

what exactly is anomalous about invisible units and the ability to simply counter attack or recall if terran tries to do.. anything


omg this is so pathetic... why don't you just play protoss then and win a starleague?
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 23:32:50
March 17 2009 23:32 GMT
#27
On March 16 2009 12:55 hixhix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 03:54 Flopgun wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/10_Rush_Hour_3
PvT: 8-24 (25%)

rush hour isnt that hard for terran


ya, not that hard for terran but still too hard for Idra


Why don't you explain why is it terran favored instead pointing out some random statics......? Maybe i'm dumb, but i really don't understand why thats a T favored map.
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SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
March 18 2009 07:33 GMT
#28
On March 16 2009 12:21 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 09:43 IdrA wrote:
On March 16 2009 03:46 3clipse wrote:
On March 15 2009 20:28 IdrA wrote:
On March 15 2009 14:55 3clipse wrote:
On March 13 2009 18:50 IdrA wrote:
protoss is difficult~
really~

Cry more. Surely you'll agree that Rush Hour is massively T>P.

yep
tvp
4 base vs 4 base
150 supply vs 120 supply
on the best tvp map in recent history

protoss wins easy.
you make an excellent point sir

You're not making any sense. You readily admit that the map statistically favors Terran by a mile. This was an anomaly, Horror clearly wasn't playing his best.

what exactly is anomalous about invisible units and the ability to simply counter attack or recall if terran tries to do.. anything

You're absolutely right. Progaming statistics over many thousands of games and hundreds of players which seem to suggest that the three races are balanced (or that Terran, in fact, has usually dominated) hold no relevence at all. Clearly we are seeing a consipracy of epic proportions in which all the most skilled gamers to ever play competive Starcraft have chosen Terran because they enjoy self-handicapping or are perhaps part of some kind of cult. Don't worry, your failures aren't your fault in any way.


Not all maps are depicted correctly. Not defending or arguing with everyone here, but for instance Andromeda shows in the korean scene that T >> Z on that map, meanwhile Z >> T in the foreign community, we as foreigners do not know how to play the game compared to the koreans, and therefore there are certain flaws that are picked out and exploited by the other race. RH3 isn't THAT hard for a foreign protoss, i used to PvT and countering until arbiter and doing alot of recalls isnt hard when your opponent refuses to leave a crapload of mines and 3-4 tanks at his expo. Andromeda is the same deal, foreign Terrans cannot macro nearly as well as korean T's, and therefore the excess minerals Z gets leads to more gas expos, which leads to T getting raped eventually.
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
March 19 2009 14:22 GMT
#29
On March 18 2009 08:32 YPang wrote:
Why don't you explain why is it terran favored instead pointing out some random statics......? Maybe i'm dumb, but i really don't understand why thats a T favored map.

Lots of very narrow chokes; T can hold most of the map just by defending a couple of them. Protoss has to travel a mile to surround and flank a Terran army. Tbh I don't play Terran and I don't play a lot of rush hour, I've just seen the stats and a lot of pro level games.

On March 18 2009 16:33 SkepTicAL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 12:21 3clipse wrote:
On March 16 2009 09:43 IdrA wrote:
On March 16 2009 03:46 3clipse wrote:
On March 15 2009 20:28 IdrA wrote:
On March 15 2009 14:55 3clipse wrote:
On March 13 2009 18:50 IdrA wrote:
protoss is difficult~
really~

Cry more. Surely you'll agree that Rush Hour is massively T>P.

yep
tvp
4 base vs 4 base
150 supply vs 120 supply
on the best tvp map in recent history

protoss wins easy.
you make an excellent point sir

You're not making any sense. You readily admit that the map statistically favors Terran by a mile. This was an anomaly, Horror clearly wasn't playing his best.

what exactly is anomalous about invisible units and the ability to simply counter attack or recall if terran tries to do.. anything

You're absolutely right. Progaming statistics over many thousands of games and hundreds of players which seem to suggest that the three races are balanced (or that Terran, in fact, has usually dominated) hold no relevence at all. Clearly we are seeing a consipracy of epic proportions in which all the most skilled gamers to ever play competive Starcraft have chosen Terran because they enjoy self-handicapping or are perhaps part of some kind of cult. Don't worry, your failures aren't your fault in any way.


Not all maps are depicted correctly. Not defending or arguing with everyone here, but for instance Andromeda shows in the korean scene that T >> Z on that map, meanwhile Z >> T in the foreign community, we as foreigners do not know how to play the game compared to the koreans, and therefore there are certain flaws that are picked out and exploited by the other race. RH3 isn't THAT hard for a foreign protoss, i used to PvT and countering until arbiter and doing alot of recalls isnt hard when your opponent refuses to leave a crapload of mines and 3-4 tanks at his expo. Andromeda is the same deal, foreign Terrans cannot macro nearly as well as korean T's, and therefore the excess minerals Z gets leads to more gas expos, which leads to T getting raped eventually.

Yeah, absolutely. It would be nice to be able to compile a huge pool of stats on how each map is balanced at each iccup level. Would even be possible to objectively compare the effectiveness of build orders on them. I still think it's quite a stretch to argue that RH3 is balanced TvP at any reasonable level though.
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