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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 08 2009 18:08 GMT
#1
holy fuck this is good. One of my favorite moments is when dreiven blocks a D swarm with probes the SECOND two ultras try and get in.. sick fucking reaction.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
December 08 2009 18:12 GMT
#2
kollllllllll! <3
DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
December 08 2009 18:44 GMT
#3
wow that was an amazing game.
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
December 08 2009 18:44 GMT
#4
a protoss (or terran) keeping up with a fully teched zerg is always amazing
rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
December 08 2009 19:28 GMT
#5
wow he suicided so much shit to take that ramp (bottom right)
El Resplandor
Profile Joined June 2009
United States187 Posts
December 08 2009 19:29 GMT
#6
On December 09 2009 04:28 rapture wrote:
wow he suicided so much shit to take that ramp (bottom right)


this, he could have dropped like 36 lings and just rape the nex... overall an awesome game
Live to win 'till you die... 'till the light dies in your eyes
stack
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada348 Posts
December 08 2009 19:56 GMT
#7
I really dig kolll. Foreign yet his play is kinda korean. Great micro and his defilers in zvt are pretty much always ready.
life is short, dont F it up
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 08 2009 22:03 GMT
#8
kolll is quickly becoming the foreign scene's wonderkid
very nice
cw)minsean(ru
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 08 2009 22:25 GMT
#9
On December 09 2009 07:03 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
kolll is quickly becoming the foreign scene's wonderkid
very nice

haha yeah, but hes definitely still a kid, makes excuses at the end of the game :D but that game was astounding, drieven is incredible. I didn't see him making that come back after his start. Delayed expo, teching in every route in order to finally secure his expo then still coming back and winning.

I dunno if anyone else appreciated the genius of taking the bottom left base, but I loved that. It disallows a split map which would disadvantage koll. and taking the bottom right bases is possible but also is about 20x harder to defend, but drieven pulled it off. The entire game was absolute sex.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
December 08 2009 23:58 GMT
#10
On December 09 2009 07:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2009 07:03 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
kolll is quickly becoming the foreign scene's wonderkid
very nice

haha yeah, but hes definitely still a kid, makes excuses at the end of the game :D but that game was astounding, drieven is incredible. I didn't see him making that come back after his start. Delayed expo, teching in every route in order to finally secure his expo then still coming back and winning.

I dunno if anyone else appreciated the genius of taking the bottom left base, but I loved that. It disallows a split map which would disadvantage koll. and taking the bottom right bases is possible but also is about 20x harder to defend, but drieven pulled it off. The entire game was absolute sex.


Yeah I thought about that too, I thought it was a great decision by koll but I guess he mistakenly thought that dreiven wouldnt even dare to take bottom right and was incredibly surprised when those cannons shot at his base, just like I was since I was only watching from kolls view.

Really really great game, thanks a lot for sharing.
Dreiven, the true master of foreign PvZ imo. Nice to see him in such good shape after his break already.
So many sick maelstroms this game. Great play by both players, though koll certainly did some criticial mistakes. It was nice to see that he has some cool tactics up his sleeves and is not just a korean macrobot.
beep boop
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 09 2009 00:09 GMT
#11
wow...sick game
thanks
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
December 09 2009 00:15 GMT
#12
damn dreiven micro and army composition is pvz is beyond godlike im amazed how always he plays pvz in late game.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 09 2009 00:37 GMT
#13
man sick sick game.. could definitely witness kollls ability..
but Dreivens micro & unit control / the way he wins fights is just beyond me..

great game

( i think kolll stating hes bad on this map isnt really searching for excuses but just pure honesty.. and his own observation.. )
hatred outlives the hateful
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
December 09 2009 00:45 GMT
#14
Is there a reason for zergs never building guardians when the p is camping with reavers and a minimum of units? 8[

Besides that its a pretty good game, especially the early game micro was gold.
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 09 2009 01:18 GMT
#15
some pretty bad strategical mistakes on kolll's part
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
JollYRoGeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden342 Posts
December 09 2009 01:25 GMT
#16
really great game, but it felt like kolll lost rather than drieven won. i'm amazed by the low number of hatcheries/gateways this game.. still, very nice micro from drieven!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
December 09 2009 01:50 GMT
#17
Dreiven is so solid.
Great micro, great macro, great decision making etc ...
Awesome game.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Code
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada634 Posts
December 09 2009 02:00 GMT
#18
This game was really really good...koll made some bad decisions on a few attacks imo and Dreiven micro'd really well and took advantage of it. Some nice plays by both players though. Entertaining game
Colbert
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada148 Posts
December 09 2009 02:22 GMT
#19
Sick game.
Sometimes you win, Sometimes you learn
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
December 09 2009 05:22 GMT
#20
Kolls ZvP seems to be where rets was during the first TSL. Super strong, very abusive but way way too reliant on ultras and defilers in the lategame after toss has already built up a ultra/defiler murdering squad.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
December 09 2009 08:59 GMT
#21
fucking rad
Happiness only real when shared.
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
December 09 2009 10:48 GMT
#22
kolll floating 3k minerals for the entire endgame made me angry

make some lings and drop his main man :|
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 12:35:07
December 09 2009 12:34 GMT
#23
In my experience going 1 base play against a good zerg means loss. Kolll is too young to counter it properly, but what Dreiven did is very risky and shouldn't be a viable option at all. Very nicely played late game though, as usual ^^

edit: by 1 base play I mean gas builds, 2 gate into expansion is still good on certain maps.
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wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
December 09 2009 12:35 GMT
#24
Sick sick play from both players. Wow.. Never thought I'd see the day where I cheered a Protoss to win over a Zerg. Dreiven's play was fantastic. wow.
I know where my towel is.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 09 2009 14:19 GMT
#25
awesome game
Chameleon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States604 Posts
December 09 2009 21:05 GMT
#26
Sick game, and the first rep posted of a game on fighting spirit. Thanks iNc!
TL's #1 Horang2 fan
myzael
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Poland605 Posts
December 10 2009 01:40 GMT
#27
@chameleonia: I recall Mistrz vs KawaiiRice rep posted not so long ago.

As for Dreiven's 1gate, I am a tiny cockroach indeed and no-one to argue Cloud but hasn't he used it before successfully? Like the series vs Mondi at the first TSL?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51531 Posts
December 10 2009 20:47 GMT
#28
iirc it was on othello he did it.
Commentator
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
December 10 2009 23:43 GMT
#29
Wow, this game was ridiculous!!!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
December 10 2009 23:44 GMT
#30
On December 11 2009 08:43 DyEnasTy wrote:
Wow, this game was ridiculous!!!




In an insanely awesome way.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
December 11 2009 02:16 GMT
#31
On December 09 2009 21:34 iG.ClouD wrote:
In my experience going 1 base play against a good zerg means loss. Kolll is too young to counter it properly, but what Dreiven did is very risky and shouldn't be a viable option at all. Very nicely played late game though, as usual ^^

edit: by 1 base play I mean gas builds, 2 gate into expansion is still good on certain maps.

dreivan seems to do this a lot though with pretty good results
Better than Pokebunny
hak
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Sweden768 Posts
December 11 2009 13:24 GMT
#32
awesome game

one thing that stood out for me was when koll attacked P nat exp with guardians, dreiven could have psi storm the 2 mutas instead of gurs, then he would have had the corsair left alive and couldve kille the guardians with it. the guardians made alot of damage and was there for a long time

great late game, especially from p. love the DA action
xicoo
Profile Joined June 2009
Portugal55 Posts
December 12 2009 16:48 GMT
#33
dreiven made mistakes too... he attacked bottom right with 5 sunks there and reinforcements coming, he could have scouted to see if reinforcements were coming and deal with sunks/reinforcements separatly
ignorance is bliss!
XCLuSive
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada121 Posts
December 14 2009 04:26 GMT
#34
Wow, I had no idea how the protoss managed to win that. The only reason I could have seen how was the zerg's not-so-great macro. Had 3k minerals for the last half of the game. Could have abused drops. The toss' macro wasn't as good as it could have been either, but it was very entertaining.

Especially liked the dt blocking the ramp at bottom right. Game would have changed if he didn't protect that expansion. The use of DA were pretty effective too.
nothing less than legendary
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
December 15 2009 02:34 GMT
#35
wow sick ass game

admittedly koll fucked up a bit with his decisions, but there were so many sick battles at bottom right. Can't believe dreiven held that shit!

reavers are sooo good (DAs too)
FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-15 19:04:47
December 15 2009 18:59 GMT
#36
Am I the only one who thought Koll did a horrible job macroing? Yes, he had a ton of bases, but his hatcheries were constantly at 3 larvae, and he almost always had 600+ minerals in the bank, and at one time over 2000+. He never really seemed to have a large army, despite having tons of bases. Also, he wasted tons of money on sunkens that should have been spent on a more mobile army. Maybe I'm just too used to watching Jaedong or something, am I mistaken here?
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
December 22 2009 17:32 GMT
#37
One of the best foreign rep i have ever seen. Protoss play was simply amaziing. Very high foreigner level. Congrats to both players !
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