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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
May 19 2008 01:01 GMT
#41
The problem is that only people who regularly watch SC in the first place would be interested. Otherwise you just have no idea what's going on.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 19 2008 01:02 GMT
#42
As much as we'd like to have promoted the TSL more, remember that we didn't know the final 16 until a week before the first broadcast, and we couldn't officially announce Razer as a sponsor until a few days before the first broadcast (even though we were confident that they'd sponsor, only the details and actually signing the contract had to take place).

Everyone was working hard on making sure that the broadcast actually happened. It will be much, much easier to promote for future seasons (if we have future seasons) because we'll already have all the technical issues worked out and we can focus on things like marketing and promotion.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 19 2008 01:04 GMT
#43
On May 19 2008 10:01 azndsh wrote:
The problem is that only people who regularly watch SC in the first place would be interested. Otherwise you just have no idea what's going on.

Not true at all. If we were to get some people who only generally follow video games to watch, StarCraft is a game that is easy enough to understand that even first time viewers, when they see zerglings and marines and zealots and storm and such, can follow the action on screen. Of course they won't understand as well as someone who regularly watches, but they'd definitely be able to comprehend a good amount and not just "have no idea."
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
May 19 2008 01:06 GMT
#44
On May 19 2008 10:01 azndsh wrote:
The problem is that only people who regularly watch SC in the first place would be interested. Otherwise you just have no idea what's going on.


Not true at all. Tons of people from Shacknews watch who haven't played StarCraft in a decade.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
May 19 2008 01:06 GMT
#45
WTF I posted before your post was here and we opened with the same sentence O_O
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 19 2008 01:11 GMT
#46
Hive mind!
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jingXD
Profile Joined May 2007
United States283 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-19 01:35:45
May 19 2008 01:35 GMT
#47
On May 19 2008 10:02 Hot_Bid wrote:
As much as we'd like to have promoted the TSL more, remember that we didn't know the final 16 until a week before the first broadcast, and we couldn't officially announce Razer as a sponsor until a few days before the first broadcast (even though we were confident that they'd sponsor, only the details and actually signing the contract had to take place).

Everyone was working hard on making sure that the broadcast actually happened. It will be much, much easier to promote for future seasons (if we have future seasons) because we'll already have all the technical issues worked out and we can focus on things like marketing and promotion.


IF we have future seasons? I thought it was a given that we would be able to enjoy plenty more seasons of amazing games to tide us through the endless finals periods.
gnuvince
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada73 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-19 01:37:08
May 19 2008 01:36 GMT
#48
What if announcements of the cast were posted to some social networking news sites a day before? For instance, both Digg and Reddit have a gaming section, so the people who'd see the announcement would be interested in gaming. Somebody could post the link with a good title ("Live cast of the largest non-Korean Starcraft tournament"), post the link on the TeamLiquid forums to get people to upvote the story to get it on the front page.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
May 19 2008 01:39 GMT
#49
On May 19 2008 04:16 Asta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2008 03:21 Superiorwolf wrote:
On May 19 2008 03:06 Bifur wrote:
Why is it so impressive? Are there any numbers to compare with? MSL, OSL, GSI, BWWI, numbers of visitors to this portal or any other internet-sites, numbers of downloaded vods from other leagues?

It's impressive because this is made by a website, not by a huge company. It's foreign in a game that's not appreciated as much as it is in Korea, which is why it's so amazing.


You actually didn't answer his question. That number can't be impressive if you don't have anything to compare it to. Let me put it this way: what number wouldn't have impressed you?

Considering the number of people who seem to be actively posting on TL and the fact that this event is popular throughout the whole non-Asian SC scene I think that number is surprisingly low. Apparently not so many people enjoy watching the whole cast live. Does anybody have numbers for the vods?


I'm guessing the numbers are significantly less than MSL, OSL and GSI. The GSI when it first started had 1 million unique IPs and GSI just appeared out of nowhere.

The numbers for TSL is impresive because they aren't a huge company like MSL, OSL, and GSI. As GSI has proven with their english cast, there are a lot of people that enjoy watching the live cast. TSL just doesn't have the budget to market it like the big companies.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
May 19 2008 03:37 GMT
#50
On May 19 2008 10:39 [X]Ken_D wrote:
I'm guessing the numbers are significantly less than MSL, OSL and GSI. The GSI when it first started had 1 million unique IPs and GSI just appeared out of nowhere.

The numbers for TSL is impresive because they aren't a huge company like MSL, OSL, and GSI. As GSI has proven with their english cast, there are a lot of people that enjoy watching the live cast. TSL just doesn't have the budget to market it like the big companies.

GSI had half a million IPs over the course of the tournament, and that almost definitely includes Korea. :p
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Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
May 19 2008 03:59 GMT
#51
On May 19 2008 10:36 gnuvince wrote:
What if announcements of the cast were posted to some social networking news sites a day before? For instance, both Digg and Reddit have a gaming section, so the people who'd see the announcement would be interested in gaming. Somebody could post the link with a good title ("Live cast of the largest non-Korean Starcraft tournament"), post the link on the TeamLiquid forums to get people to upvote the story to get it on the front page.

We did that, and Digg admins quickly flagged it as abuse and shut it down. Besides the fact that your votes are weighted by the time you've been on the site, and most of our votes were first time Digg users.
Super serious.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
May 19 2008 04:00 GMT
#52
Advertise TLAttack in the casting (but not too much).
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
May 19 2008 04:07 GMT
#53
That's a really good idea Zzoram, I'm surprised they haven't done this already. I mean shit, we already ask people to register at tl.net why not advertise tl.net attack?
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2267 Posts
May 19 2008 04:18 GMT
#54
what about multi speaking coments, spanish, portugese, german, etc...
it would increse the numbers of visitors
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 19 2008 05:03 GMT
#55
>_>
<_<
What if we have +5 IP's? Not saying im a baned account, but I'm a nomad of leeching internet. I WILL GO IN SEARCH OF MORE IP's FOR TSL!
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
May 19 2008 06:04 GMT
#56
We don't care about IPs, we care about actual human beings watching. :p
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 19 2008 09:30 GMT
#57
Yea this tournament is about supporting and bringing life to the community while at the same time delivering TL Quality content (because tl quality is in a class of its own )
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3420 Posts
May 19 2008 10:30 GMT
#58
Many people don't watch the live stream, because it starts too late. Stream finishes at 2/3 am for most europeans and many people have to go to school / work the next day. It's even worse for asians.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 19 2008 10:51 GMT
#59
On May 19 2008 18:30 Plexa wrote:
Yea this tournament is about supporting and bringing life to the community while at the same time delivering TL Quality content (because tl quality is in a class of its own )


You know how awesome TSL is? Yesterday friends came over to my place, we ordered Pizza and enjoyed TSL together :D! That awesome.
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NathanSC
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States620 Posts
May 19 2008 17:02 GMT
#60
On May 19 2008 19:51 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2008 18:30 Plexa wrote:
Yea this tournament is about supporting and bringing life to the community while at the same time delivering TL Quality content (because tl quality is in a class of its own )


You know how awesome TSL is? Yesterday friends came over to my place, we ordered Pizza and enjoyed TSL together :D! That awesome.

Pure win.

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