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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
May 18 2008 19:27 GMT
#21
those numbers are very impressive when you consider all the variables, i.e. no koreans or players from china, it is a community tournament, and this is only the first season.

:D
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 18 2008 19:28 GMT
#22
I thought peak for ro8 yesterday was like 2700-2800?

Whatever ;P we're getting a good # of viewers, and it'll hopefully keep going up!

Drag people into the scene, even if you must use gags and handcuffs.
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EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2680 Posts
May 18 2008 19:30 GMT
#23
You probably won't be able to tell us, but a meaningful number to compare this to would be the number of viewers Razer expected when they decided to sponsor the event. Are we fulfilling expectations?
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
May 18 2008 19:30 GMT
#24
On May 19 2008 04:16 Asta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2008 03:21 Superiorwolf wrote:
On May 19 2008 03:06 Bifur wrote:
Why is it so impressive? Are there any numbers to compare with? MSL, OSL, GSI, BWWI, numbers of visitors to this portal or any other internet-sites, numbers of downloaded vods from other leagues?

It's impressive because this is made by a website, not by a huge company. It's foreign in a game that's not appreciated as much as it is in Korea, which is why it's so amazing.


You actually didn't answer his question. That number can't be impressive if you don't have anything to compare it to. Let me put it this way: what number wouldn't have impressed you?

Considering the number of people who seem to be actively posting on TL and the fact that this event is popular throughout the whole non-Asian SC scene I think that number is surprisingly low. Apparently not so many people enjoy watching the whole cast live. Does anybody have numbers for the vods?

VODs (tracker):

Ro16 Day 1:
Status: 58 seeders , 8 leechers , completed 1698 times
Hits: 7483

Ro16 Day 2:
Status: 52 seeders , 23 leechers , completed 1851 times
Hits: 4183

Ro8 Day 1: (only up for 18 hrs so far)
Status: 121 seeders , 37 leechers , completed 822 times
Hits: 1574

The tracker software is pretty bad though, the those may be inaccurate.

VODs (youtube):
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=38E1EAF964B7B67D
Min: 450 (not counting the ones that were just uploaded)
Max: 3800
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
May 18 2008 19:32 GMT
#25
On May 19 2008 04:30 EnDeR_ wrote:
You probably won't be able to tell us, but a meaningful number to compare this to would be the number of viewers Razer expected when they decided to sponsor the event. Are we fulfilling expectations?

We originally expected about 2000 average.
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jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
May 18 2008 19:35 GMT
#26
I had to work, so couldn't watch, but called my brother cross country to get results.

TSL has generated a lot of excitement for us, and we have been caught up in it.
sex appeal
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 18 2008 19:43 GMT
#27
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 18 2008 19:55 GMT
#28
I was thinking that the advertisement hasn't been broad and good enough with banners, hypevideos inbetween broadcast-weekends etc. But i actually don't think that foreign SC-scene is that big that we can get alot more viewers than this.. there's just so many new games taking up attention from starcraft, so the viewers are only a small but dedicated fanbase that's still around. SC2 will definantly make it bigger though.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 18 2008 20:16 GMT
#29
TL.NET ASSEMBLE!! Time to spam views for

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-23552

maybe then it will get up to frontpage and more people will hear about TSL that might otherwise not have :-)
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-18 22:03:34
May 18 2008 21:03 GMT
#30
well, looks like the games with mondi definitely brought in that viewer boost
Moonlight Shadow
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
May 18 2008 21:55 GMT
#31
On May 19 2008 03:24 Xeris wrote:
that's actually a lot -_-!

I think for Yankee League we had ~100-150 users per week listening live , so this is obviously much higher ^_^


In comparison to these numbers, the number of TSL-live-viewrs really looks impressive.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
May 18 2008 23:34 GMT
#32
Wow 2000~ is really impressive guys. TL rocks my socks!
Oh no
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27146 Posts
May 18 2008 23:38 GMT
#33
On one hand it is impressive, on the other I have the feeling it should be much much more. Promotion is a difficult task though. We can get out to the regular SC sites, but beyond that in the general gaming scene it is really difficult to generate interest.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 18 2008 23:44 GMT
#34
why not petition to have an article on Gotfrag or some other eSport related site, not necessarily BW based. a $10,000 tournament sponsored by Razer should be able to generate a fair amount of interest for a general eSport portal.
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Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
May 19 2008 00:16 GMT
#35
GotFrag indeed is a good suggestion. You need a well presented Press Release that you can mail to some of the top gaming sites. I think definetly for the Final, you can do this.
Whats the altitude?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 19 2008 00:18 GMT
#36
Yeah, I have to agree with Mani here. I expected these numbers to be significantly higher, so I think some sort of broader marketing strategy might be missing.

Of course there are also ways to improve on the TSL itself, and word-of-mouth marketing really works best in the event of a really good undertaking, so I'm also expecting development in the future just from the progressive improvement in quality. Let's see the stats after the finals, those will be a pretty good indicator of what's the actual trend.
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
May 19 2008 00:22 GMT
#37
I would also like to add, if someone came to the teamliquid.net website, other than the News Article, there is no like "banner" or anything to direct you to everything you need to know about TSL. I mean I can see it on right hand side now, (The small TSL section) but I actually did no notice this for about a week.

Maybe something a little more in your face? Just an idea.
Whats the altitude?
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 19 2008 00:24 GMT
#38
They recently put up a newspost about TSL on Sk-gaming.com, THE biggest multigaming site in the world ( pretty much the facebook of gaming, a really active community ).

An idea would be to put up adv. banners on sites such as sk-gaming.com and gotfrag.com for the upcoming semifinals and finals to get the hype up early on!
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
May 19 2008 00:30 GMT
#39
On May 19 2008 08:38 Manifesto7 wrote:
On one hand it is impressive, on the other I have the feeling it should be much much more. Promotion is a difficult task though. We can get out to the regular SC sites, but beyond that in the general gaming scene it is really difficult to generate interest.

That makes sense. But at the same time, you guys must be able to understand that only persistance can make great things.

If TSL gets to Season 2, Season 3, I think it's reasonable to expect twice that many visitors.
If you get your head too into this, you may think the word is spread enough. but its not.
Keep up the good work and the rewards will come, I'm sure.

And thanks!
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
May 19 2008 00:55 GMT
#40
yeah, i guess we might be lacking in the marketing department. for instance, we only have a few banners, and those were only put up when the broadcasts first started. there should be more promotional posters, perhaps highlighting known players (ex: mondi) as well as the 10k prize. i know gosugamers is covering TSL too, but we need to reach other bw sites as well as general esport community as well.
Moonlight Shadow
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