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Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
May 11 2008 08:59 GMT
#121
I never watch SC live, but I really enjoyed the games yesterday, watched them all : ).
Thanks alot!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 11 2008 09:33 GMT
#122
I thoroughly enjoyed it. I am proud to be a part of the TSL team, and glad to be able to contribute what little talents I have to the success of this league ^^;

Let's keep it up, guys!

Any criticisms I have would be simply re-hashings of what's been previously said.
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
May 11 2008 09:40 GMT
#123
I hope the technical problems which prevented the cheerfuls are fixed soon.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
diehilde1
Profile Joined September 2006
Germany522 Posts
May 11 2008 10:24 GMT
#124
Great job guys!
One TINY thing I have to add: The pronouncement of the Clan ToT is "Toat" and not "tod" like you said it. Its originally a german clan as u know and in German "tot" means "dead". Im sure when the clan was founded, this was intended. I guess you could say that I just wanna hear ToT pronounced the way that Mr.ToT himself, Mondi, would pronounce it.
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-11 10:32:05
May 11 2008 10:30 GMT
#125
you guys are doing a great job! I love it!

the only things to cross my mind to criticise are a bit loud intro, and the obs guy (kennigt?) missing the action due to watching the buildings for 5 sec, I know protoss buildings are nice and they shine, but the fights are of the essence! great job! :D

loved the MEOW MEOW probe and everything, players descriptiones were very nice, some facts mixed in with humour, great stuff. and the graphics <3.

comentators are nice, mani with his manly voice, artorisis with funny comments and chill with a bit of blunt "look at this noob" attitude; perfect mix! :D

the irc channel was on fire all the time, the cheerfuls and reactiones - insane! anyone got some transcriptiones of some funny moments in irc? I remember there were quite a few! then I got banned (with a reason xD sry, I was excited).

<3 razer
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2749 Posts
May 11 2008 10:37 GMT
#126
A tip to kennigit, cuase I believe it is his screen we are looking at. Try not to scroll the screen as much. Imo it's better to click a few, fewer times in the minimap to see a unit walk, than to follow it by scrolling after it. It makes me sea-sick.

In movies i would be: pick a few scenes to describe an action, instead of prolonging one scene.

This because SC cant scroll smooth, and if you are not the one in control, it makes you seasick.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
May 11 2008 10:53 GMT
#127
Try to avoid taking sides. While "who do I think will win" is fine, you guys overdid it a bit during Idra's and Cloud's games (perhaps you weren't even serious, in that case my bad).

The commentary was awesome, not flawless, but still one of the best I've heard so far. The intro's were great, especially "The Probe" Showing a bit more emotion would be great, too, and you guys missed a couple of key moments, too. But I'm sure it'll improve over time
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NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
May 11 2008 10:58 GMT
#128
I had problem watching the stream, every minute or so it just d/ced and after an hour I decided to just give up, watched the VOD today instead.
sappling
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany22 Posts
May 11 2008 11:27 GMT
#129
The whole thing is just amazing. Would never have expected such professionalism out of korea. Incredibly good job. Thx so much.

Only criticism I can think of is maybe a little lack of emotion in the casting. I remember one game when some awesome psi storms went off on Streloks tanks and you guys didn't even get excited. Think Tasteless! And freak out a bit :D

Also its a tiny bit strange that all of you obviously watch the replays at the same time and therefore every caster has its own game to look at, while the viewer only sees one observerview who sometimes misses things now and then. So the casters are talking about stuff that the viewer didn't see. This takes some getting used to
epjx31
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United Kingdom324 Posts
May 11 2008 12:19 GMT
#130
there is some streaming issues, especially the transition point between after a match is finish and the start of the next match
Mind for OSL!
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
May 11 2008 12:34 GMT
#131
I've only seen the first 2 sets because I had to leave after that. It was amazing, very professional.

The biggest plus was ofcourse Mani's incredibly sexy voice, he sounded as manly as Reach! There were some flaws with the tools of the observer that showed the current score and the mineral count, but you will have probably noted that yourself.

Perhaps it changed later on, but I would have liked a bit more speaking time for Artosis, I really like his insight and his commentating, but that is just personal preference ofcourse. Can't wait till tonight.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
May 11 2008 12:39 GMT
#132
Awesome streaming, commentary, games, etc.
Great job guys and thanks a lot
Looking forward to day 2
gentile
Profile Joined August 2007
Switzerland594 Posts
May 11 2008 13:03 GMT
#133
i can only agree, awesome work cant wait for tonight.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
May 11 2008 13:06 GMT
#134
Kennigit has to show more action. You can show what buildings are made after the battle is over.

I'd like to hear more Artosis and maybe Chill too. I don't mind the lack of emotion at all. I actually prefer this way but I did hear other people comment/complain on it.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
May 11 2008 13:21 GMT
#135
All I know is that the VODS are PRO. GJ
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
just ban me
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada4 Posts
May 11 2008 15:00 GMT
#136
In my opinion the biggest weakness of the presentation was the commentating

Everything was so professional and so incredibly well done that I think it made the commentary appear amateurish in comparison.

When you've put together such a credible and professional package as this that rivals even the korean starleagues in presentation, I think it's a little remiss to have the commentators be TL staff instead of proven quality commentators. Or, if it's an absolute necessity that one is an admin (and it's understandable if that's the case) then they should probably take a back seat to Artosis.

Everyone has their preference with commentators but I believe he's proven himself to be among the best with a combination of excitement and strategic insight that I think is rivaled by none.

i think that if you want something to appeal to a larger crowd than people who are already huge fans of the administration here, that the commentating should be someone who is exciting and fun to listen to. It's for no other reason that I have to say Manifesto and to a lesser extent Chill aren't particularly amazing for the job. One can't discount the work they've done to put this whole thing together, it's absolutely commendable, but it's doubtful someone would want to listen to a bad singer, people probably don't want to listen to someone who doesn't have a phenomenal radio voice.

There were some glaring examples, albeit in the first set so maybe it's just the announcer rust, where manifesto was talking rather drone like over a pivotal moment where strelok lost his army. While he had some great things to say, his ability to commentate on immediate play was poor. Where Artosis would have been all over the events that were unfolding if Manifesto had taken a step back from the mic from time to time.

Chill on the other hand I feel commentates from his strategy forum pedestal. I just don't want to hear how bad this or that is, or what a lesser player would do. He just seems to have this mentality of pointing out everything wrong, and when nothing is wrong he will tell us how a lesser player would do x or y wrong. It's just unnecessary to be honest.

On another note, I get the feeling you guys watched a lot of UFC events together, I hear a lot of Goldbergisms, everything pays dividends and puts on clinics. A lot of people mentioned this. It's really not a big deal and my most nitpicky point.

All in all, I just feel like Artosis is the greatest asset from a commentary point of view and he is being drown out a lot. I'd love to hear it be about 60% Artosis and 40% the other commentators. This isn't for any reason other than I think Artosis is the stronger commentator, and that a bigger presence will lead to overall a better quality production. Thank you for reading my internet friends.
perisie xx
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
429 Posts
May 11 2008 15:03 GMT
#137
i enjoyed the commentating from all very much

my single issue was manlifestos mic could have been a fraction louder
perisie xx
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
429 Posts
May 11 2008 15:03 GMT
#138
also i want to hear him sing
frozenclaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada410 Posts
May 11 2008 15:12 GMT
#139
It was amazing, I really liked EVERYTHING. I think the only thing is Manifesto's mic has some static but hardly noticeable. I think you guys are doing an awesome job. GOGO TSL!!
charcute
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada419 Posts
May 11 2008 15:24 GMT
#140
which one has the big voice??
I like to do it all night long
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