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Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-21 13:27:32
April 21 2008 13:21 GMT
#101
On April 21 2008 22:13 NonY[rC] wrote:
Europeans will never understand Americans


Yawn.
What this has to do with Europeans or Americans is beyond me.

Good luck to Idra though Go play some minor league and work your way up from there! Or something! I don't know, I just want to see some VODs
O_o
iLjh
Profile Joined February 2008
United States160 Posts
April 21 2008 13:23 GMT
#102
On April 21 2008 22:18 Hot_Bid wrote:
Nobody said Idra was going to qualify for the OSL, we were just wishing him luck in the courage tournament. Then you come in and say, in statement form, "no way you'll qualify" with misinformation about the format. When corrected about the format, you say, again, "no way you'll qualify" and that Idra should not be offended.

Then you say, "well, if you do qualify, you have my respect" even after repeatedly saying he has no chance, which is stupid, because every player has a chance in courage. Maybe his chance is small, maybe not, but making dumb statements like "you will never qualify, don't be offended" is pretty BM. Thus, obviously he wouldn't care about respect from someone who makes statements like that.

Then you overreact when I sarcastically point out that he probably wouldn't care about your opinion.

All we're doing is wishing him luck, there's no need to go and try to crush whatever aspirations he has with statements like "sorry no way you qualify, don't be offended." Who are you, Nostradamus?

What if I said to you, Naruto, no way you succeed in whatever occupation you pick for yourself. You will not succed. Sorry, don't be offended. You would still respect my opinion? This a fine thing to say? Get a clue.


owned
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 21 2008 13:34 GMT
#103
On April 21 2008 22:18 Hot_Bid wrote:
Nobody said Idra was going to qualify for the OSL, we were just wishing him luck in the courage tournament. Then you come in and say, in statement form, "no way you'll qualify" with misinformation about the format. When corrected about the format, you say, again, "no way you'll qualify" and that Idra should not be offended.

Then you say, "well, if you do qualify, you have my respect" even after repeatedly saying he has no chance, which is stupid, because every player has a chance in courage. Maybe his chance is small, maybe not, but making dumb statements like "you will never qualify, don't be offended" is pretty BM. Thus, obviously he wouldn't care about respect from someone who makes statements like that.

Then you overreact when I sarcastically point out that he probably wouldn't care about your opinion.

All we're doing is wishing him luck, there's no need to go and try to crush whatever aspirations he has with statements like "sorry no way you qualify, don't be offended." Who are you, Nostradamus?

What if I said to you, Naruto, no way you succeed in whatever occupation you pick for yourself. You will not succed. Sorry, don't be offended. You would still respect my opinion? This a fine thing to say? Get a clue.



I already wished him luck in many other threads. I just don't want him to be disappointed if he doesn't qualify, because its no shame whatsoever. Thats what I wanted to express. Maybe I'm kinda hard if it comes to telling such things-_-.. I'm a very realistic (drifting to pesimistic) person.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
HighTimes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan342 Posts
April 21 2008 13:41 GMT
#104
On April 21 2008 22:06 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 21:53 Hot_Bid wrote:
On April 21 2008 21:38 G.s)NarutO wrote:
On April 21 2008 21:28 IdrA wrote:
On April 21 2008 19:20 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sorry IdrA but you will not pass an 256 man courage tournament with best of 1 style-_-

good thing you know what you're talking about
its 64 man groups bo3 single elim winner gets a license.
they got rid of the 256 man bo1 tourny years ago.

Still you won't qualify. It should not be offending you, but you simply don't have the routine to slash through such a tourney. If you manage to get a licence you have my respect.

Oh he'll have your respect will he? That'll certainly push his motivation over the top to succeed!

Idra do it for Naruto, the guy that makes flat statements about your inevitable failure! Do it for Naruto!!!!



What the fuck? Why do you offend me because I tell my opinion? No foreigner has accomplished anything in Korea (besides Grrr ElkY ...) and no one will ever accomplish anything. The skill gap is just too high. We both know that lots of active and good progamers don't qualify for starleagues (JAEDONG CASY SAVIOR HI) and oh well.. I just doubt IdrA can pull something off.

And I don't care if my respect is something worthy of , at least my friends think so. So I don't care what you say hot_bid ..-_-


That's how you start failing in life.
Everything begins with a thought, even failure.
That's why everybody is saying "Go Go, you will do it!". That's what encouragement is.
Unless you're trying to use some kind of reverse psychology? Which just.... fails?

Anyways, Idra, I somehow felt, that you're a guy, who is really fit to improve in such environment. You don't have that unnecessary pride for your wins and losses and that is exactly how you should be, to become a pro! I really have high expectations from you! Crush the noobs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gvD9G5uDfo
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
April 21 2008 13:41 GMT
#105
He doesn't need your advice and guidance. He will play and improve. He said he is probably the worst at the estro house. I am sure he isn't the only one without a progaming licence. He will try the first time. Then a second and third time and then he should perform better.
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
April 21 2008 13:42 GMT
#106
On April 21 2008 22:34 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 22:18 Hot_Bid wrote:
Nobody said Idra was going to qualify for the OSL, we were just wishing him luck in the courage tournament. Then you come in and say, in statement form, "no way you'll qualify" with misinformation about the format. When corrected about the format, you say, again, "no way you'll qualify" and that Idra should not be offended.

Then you say, "well, if you do qualify, you have my respect" even after repeatedly saying he has no chance, which is stupid, because every player has a chance in courage. Maybe his chance is small, maybe not, but making dumb statements like "you will never qualify, don't be offended" is pretty BM. Thus, obviously he wouldn't care about respect from someone who makes statements like that.

Then you overreact when I sarcastically point out that he probably wouldn't care about your opinion.

All we're doing is wishing him luck, there's no need to go and try to crush whatever aspirations he has with statements like "sorry no way you qualify, don't be offended." Who are you, Nostradamus?

What if I said to you, Naruto, no way you succeed in whatever occupation you pick for yourself. You will not succed. Sorry, don't be offended. You would still respect my opinion? This a fine thing to say? Get a clue.



I already wished him luck in many other threads. I just don't want him to be disappointed if he doesn't qualify, because its no shame whatsoever. Thats what I wanted to express. Maybe I'm kinda hard if it comes to telling such things-_-.. I'm a very realistic (drifting to pesimistic) person.


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Gl idra.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
kyjori
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
371 Posts
April 21 2008 13:48 GMT
#107
oh man idra... let Up smurf on ur account T____T

it would be so epic...
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
April 21 2008 14:33 GMT
#108
Please don't encourage someone to abuse our league, then get caught and banned from every event we hold in the future.
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
April 21 2008 14:36 GMT
#109
@NonY:
i understand americans ;D

@idra:
gl in everything u do in korea
btw. is it true that u shaved ur hair? if so PLZ send a pic.
send a pic too if they just style ur hair for photos or soemthing LAWL
im serious plz post fotos
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Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
April 21 2008 14:39 GMT
#110
Good Luck in the courage league Idra!

(And OMG do you get to play with GoodFriend? If so... THATS AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!)
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3337 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-21 14:51:23
April 21 2008 14:51 GMT
#111
On April 21 2008 23:36 MasterReY wrote:


@idra:
gl in everything u do in korea
btw. is it true that u shaved ur hair? if so PLZ send a pic.
send a pic too if they just style ur hair for photos or soemthing LAWL
im serious plz post fotos

Its right here: Idra with his hair cut.
김택용 Fighting!
sasal
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany74 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-21 18:01:25
April 21 2008 17:53 GMT
#112
I dont like it when people talk any chance or opportunity of a other person bad right before anything happened. Idra is not a child who needs a guardian or custodian. You can be sure he thought about all possibilities before he decide something and when he believes in himself and that the chance is worth to try it is a good thing.

Even if other players like Draco couldnt fullfil their dreams in this case.. so what? Is he dead now? It was still a experience and maybe it would be more worse to him if he never tried it. When there is a challenge you can always lose or fail. But when you dont even try it you have lost this opportunity already.

Also i personally doubt such predictions are really made because of care to the other person but more if people take their opinion a bit to important and want to show that everybody. But whatever thats also only my point of view.
XellOs_PlutO
Profile Joined August 2003
Korea (South)166 Posts
April 21 2008 18:10 GMT
#113
Goodluck Idra. Glad to hear that its been fun.
I am really looking forward to see you in broadcasted matches.
Perstare et Praestare
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1387 Posts
April 21 2008 18:23 GMT
#114
im watching you.
mada mada dane
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
April 21 2008 20:58 GMT
#115
Naruto,
we all know its gonna be tough for him, but the power of encouragment is strong. So is the power of putting people down.

Good luck Idra!

On April 21 2008 22:41 HighTimes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 22:06 G.s)NarutO wrote:
On April 21 2008 21:53 Hot_Bid wrote:
On April 21 2008 21:38 G.s)NarutO wrote:
On April 21 2008 21:28 IdrA wrote:
On April 21 2008 19:20 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Sorry IdrA but you will not pass an 256 man courage tournament with best of 1 style-_-

good thing you know what you're talking about
its 64 man groups bo3 single elim winner gets a license.
they got rid of the 256 man bo1 tourny years ago.

Still you won't qualify. It should not be offending you, but you simply don't have the routine to slash through such a tourney. If you manage to get a licence you have my respect.

Oh he'll have your respect will he? That'll certainly push his motivation over the top to succeed!

Idra do it for Naruto, the guy that makes flat statements about your inevitable failure! Do it for Naruto!!!!



What the fuck? Why do you offend me because I tell my opinion? No foreigner has accomplished anything in Korea (besides Grrr ElkY ...) and no one will ever accomplish anything. The skill gap is just too high. We both know that lots of active and good progamers don't qualify for starleagues (JAEDONG CASY SAVIOR HI) and oh well.. I just doubt IdrA can pull something off.

And I don't care if my respect is something worthy of , at least my friends think so. So I don't care what you say hot_bid ..-_-


That's how you start failing in life.
Everything begins with a thought, even failure.
That's why everybody is saying "Go Go, you will do it!". That's what encouragement is.
Unless you're trying to use some kind of reverse psychology? Which just.... fails?

Anyways, Idra, I somehow felt, that you're a guy, who is really fit to improve in such environment. You don't have that unnecessary pride for your wins and losses and that is exactly how you should be, to become a pro! I really have high expectations from you! Crush the noobs!

good post
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
April 22 2008 00:17 GMT
#116
IdrA, I don't know you, but I am still extremely exited by this, GLHF!
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
April 22 2008 00:34 GMT
#117
On April 21 2008 23:51 Yaqoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 23:36 MasterReY wrote:


@idra:
gl in everything u do in korea
btw. is it true that u shaved ur hair? if so PLZ send a pic.
send a pic too if they just style ur hair for photos or soemthing LAWL
im serious plz post fotos

Its right here: Idra with his hair cut.


Holy shit
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
April 22 2008 00:55 GMT
#118
On April 22 2008 03:10 XellOs_PlutO wrote:
Goodluck Idra. Glad to hear that its been fun.
I am really looking forward to see you in broadcasted matches.


wow... hi.
make a dramatic bisu highlight plz!
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
April 22 2008 01:04 GMT
#119
On April 21 2008 22:06 G.s)NarutO wrote:No foreigner has accomplished anything in Korea (besides Grrr ElkY ...) and no one will ever accomplish anything. The skill gap is just too high.


Leggionaire and Assem both were successful, which includes passing the old and new courage tournaments, so again a false fact.

The skill gap to pass courage isn't too high at all either and I'm certain he'll eventually get it, especially considering he's supported by everyone and is comfortable/motivated in that situation.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 22 2008 02:56 GMT
#120
On April 21 2008 10:15 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 07:54 Worked! wrote:
Idra will easily get on a level none of us are on simply because he is forced to play A+ and higher calibur players all day long, even a monkey would become better than all of us living in eSTRO house.


And yet no foreign player has ever managed to stay in the house for an extended period of time...

I think the most important thing for a foreigner to become a progamer isnt talent, but the ability to play 13 hours a day every day without immediately passing courage/getting on tv. Its discouraging, and its part of the reason why I think draco wasnt successful.
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