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Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 05 2009 01:25 okum wrote:
Sending Flash to #5 for dropping out of both leagues is perfectly fair, given that Bisu was sent to #5 when he dropped out of both leagues two months ago. Too bad Flash won't get a second chance, though.
Bisu certainly deserves #1 this month, and Jaedong #2.
But Jangbi #3, seriously? He just lost three games in a row in WL, contributing to three losses for his team. Not that the other contenders on the list can be credited with consistency (thinking particularly of Luxury -- who has been playing both spectacularly and craptacularly alternatingly), but that's poor.
Generally, a very good PR. Light, Hwasin and hyvaa all earned their entries.
...have you somehow missed the numerous, SAVAGE thrashings Jangbi has been dishing out lately? The guy is playing world-class StarCraft, how can you not have noticed? You really think three losses in WL counteract this?
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On March 05 2009 01:02 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
In my oppinion the top 3 players at the moment is JD Bisu and Flash with Bisu having to take the first spot because of his consistancy to perform at his highest level, whereas he's the worst of the three when all of them are performing their best.
your opinion just xxx ,, bisu is most surten the best of the three when all of them are performing their best
bisus elo tlpd record is also higher than of any other player including oov at his hight flash jd and so on ,,, he is clearly nr 1 ,, at any other point in history when a player had close that elo ranking he was considerd to be by far the best player without any doubt ,,but in truth they were not as dominant overall in all matchups together like bisu is now
nice powerrank overal i totaly aggree with top 5 spots
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United States13143 Posts
This is a really good PR, and I like it a lot. However, I think that ZerO would have been better on the PR than Hwasin. He's made a semifinal(playing only ZvZ admittedly, but made one nontheless), while Hwasin has not yet this season. In addition, he's been doing better than Hwasin in WL, and occasionally shows monstrous play.
Also, I think HiyA deserves CBNC, although I see you already covered that.
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On March 05 2009 01:25 okum wrote:
Sending Flash to #5 for dropping out of both leagues is perfectly fair, given that Bisu was sent to #5 when he dropped out of both leagues two months ago. Too bad Flash won't get a second chance, though.
A big diffrence is Bisu got stomped in the MSL and was playing what was suposed to be a sub-par player in the OSL. Flash lost an epic game to Upmagic (where he nearly came back from a huge disadvantage) and was very close to beating Best. In the MSL he went out to Leta who is defenatly #2 terrean by every ranking system (PR ELO and Kespa).
IMO Flash deserves 4th and Lux should have been 5th
[quoote]Bisu certainly deserves #1 this month, and Jaedong #2.[/quote]
I don't think anyone will dispute that.
But Jangbi #3, seriously? He just lost three games in a row in WL, contributing to three losses for his team. Not that the other contenders on the list can be credited with consistency (thinking particularly of Luxury -- who has been playing both spectacularly and craptacularly alternatingly), but that's poor.
Generally, a very good PR. Light, Hwasin and hyvaa all earned their entries.
Agreed.
Also lol at the comments on #10 (hyvaa) evidently for FS 10 != 10.
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While I would've liked to see Flash rated higher, I can't argue with your case that SLs have to count for something. Great PR! =)
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Seeing Light that high, while he plays only in WL it's kinda strange. While many players are doing great, like Zero. There are many WL beasts like Hiya, Iris, Free, Yarnc, Kal +noname Terrans coming from nowhere, who take down big names and clean up lesser players. but w/e its a low rank, many contenders few places.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Hyvaa has a pic of him on TLPD but it's not linking here properly :/
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I think Free might be playing better than some of the lower ranked players, but that horrible series against ForGG probably ruined his chance. Did you look at Free as a contender for a low spot Steve, maybe cbnc?
All in all, pretty damn good rank a few small things, but everyone has there own opinion. Here is it what I thought it was a few days ago.
1. Bisu
2. Jaedong
3. Jangbi
4. Flash
5. Luxury
6. Leta
7. Stork
8. Light (look at this guys record recently its really good)
9. Hyvaa
10. Hwasin
So pretty close I think Zero, Hiya, and maybe Free deserve cbnc.
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FakeSteve delivers!! :D
Really good PR this month. Nothing I have any arguments about except that just maybe Hyvaa and Hwasin should change spots.
Hiya, free and Zero should definitely be in CBNC I'd say. and just maybe by.hero may steal a spot. (just maybe)
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Yeah I find it kind of odd that one of the justifications for Jangbi being #3 is that his play looks great when Luxury is right there at number 4 being placed that high for practically the opposite reason.
But it's more of a note than a gripe. I like this list and I've really enjoyed the games the last month.
I think a dark horse candidate for CBNC would be Iris. Also give a shoutout to Anytime and Reach because, frankly, who doesn't like Anytime or Reach?
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Excellent PR I wish Flash was higher but he simply shouldn't be, I don't get the part about hyvaa being "above 10th" though, I thought he was 10th?
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On March 05 2009 00:39 Hot_Bid wrote:
lol @ hyvaas picture
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What are your thoughts on ZerO FakeSteve? I'd be interested to find out.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
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On March 05 2009 00:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 00:21 raga4ka wrote:The Top 7 looks solid , but after that players can change a bit : Not only Light has looked good in WL out of the terrans also Hiya and iris and some other terrans have produced results . I probably would have switched Light with Hiya after OZ vs Khan . He beat JangBi on Andromeda and Stork on Medusa i know both JangBi and Stork didn't played the best of their abilitys , but Hiya played some fine starcraft and taking out those two an those maps is an amazing achievement i would say . Hwasin's placement is fine definitely better then placing other players like Fantasy/Nada/ForGG for now . Also i would replace hyvaa with by.hero , but thats my thought and personal pick . Hyvaa has been doing pretty good in WL and some of his games are top notch not to mention that he has been doing 3 kills and other stuff like that , but i think that by.hero is a better zerg then hyvaa . He is the only zerg who now has a winning record together with maybe Jaedong against Bisu in recent events . He is 3 - 0 against Bisu this past months and 3 - 1 overall ( he has 1 loss to Bisu in PL 2007 where on one knew him . ) . His most recent game against Bisu on Taucross he showed that he is a master of macro and control in ZvP and his play style is similar to July . Also i would note that in his ZvT games that weren't against mech and he wasn't bunker rushed (Fantasy  ) he has looked pretty good i would say . I think he is a solid player in both ZvP and ZvT although i have to see more ZvTs from him to claim that statement . What i do know is that his ZvP is one be feared . Other then that the PR is solid , people could argue that Zero can be added here but based only on his ZvZ .... that wouldn't be a good call . I'm also glad that you gave some less popular players like hyvaa and Light spots , and not the more common Best/Kal/Free choices . Great work and Thank you !  I hope the CBNC comes out quick so that there is something to read :D . by.hero has won 4 of his last 10 games. That ought to be a pretty clear indication of his performance.
I don't agree here. Hwasin has won 4 of his last 10 games, yet you obviously feel that's not a clear indication of his performance if you gave him a PR spot. They're in the same OSL quarterfinals, and even though he's had some tough losses in ZvT by.hero's ZvP performances have been extremely good. I think he deserves a CBNC as much as Zero does (I mean, if he faced nothing but ZvPs all the way through the OSL do you think he'd have trouble making the finals?). With July as his mentor to be honest I think I'd give him a good chance of taking anyone in the OSL down in a series besides Hwasin and Jaedong, for obvious reasons. Unfortunate for him that those are the two he'd probably have to go through to reach the finals.
I agree with the PR itself though, very nice. I think I'd have put Hyvaa higher, personally, maybe I just like him.
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Hungary11291 Posts
On March 05 2009 02:03 KizZBG wrote:
Hyvaa has a pic of him on TLPD but it's not linking here properly :/
His stats are also not linking correctly. Maybe it's the same reason? No 10 with pic would be nice
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Am surprised that Light and Hyvaa's listed in there but the bottomw 5 were close anyway with Free,Zero and a few other. CBNC will hopefully list them and besides PR's always great!
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I really wish you didn't talk down to progamers =/.
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There's an argument as to the order, but JD and Bisu are definitely the top two in the world right now.
With both Leta and Flash stumbling, it's hard for me to pick which one of them should be ahead of the other. But one gets the feeling that if there was some other Terran who was doing well, he would be ahead of both of them.
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I like how Jangbi is #3, all the more glory to Nada when he dismantles him tomorrow.
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