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I was thinking osl man sorry
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Mind always seems to be one of those players that has the potential to be the best but is always the 3rd best (not 2nd) player just because he was destined to be like that
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So fakesteve its been a view days have you seen the Mind games you missed? I know that the series is to late for PR contention but + Show Spoiler +Mind just slew a dragon (kal) in a bo3 series last night and imo removing any questions about his return to form, it appears hes going to have to go dragon slaying all the way if he is going to get to the finals, flash may have to surrender his nick.
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On December 23 2008 15:06 Kuja900 wrote:So fakesteve its been a view days have you seen the Mind games you missed? I know that the series is to late for PR contention but + Show Spoiler +Mind just slew a dragon (kal) in a bo3 series last night and imo removing any questions about his return to form, it appears hes going to have to go dragon slaying all the way if he is going to get to the finals, flash may have to surrender his nick.
unless he does the same :O
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On December 23 2008 15:06 Kuja900 wrote:So fakesteve its been a view days have you seen the Mind games you missed? I know that the series is to late for PR contention but + Show Spoiler +Mind just slew a dragon (kal) in a bo3 series last night and imo removing any questions about his return to form, it appears hes going to have to go dragon slaying all the way if he is going to get to the finals, flash may have to surrender his nick.
he slaied the weakest PvT dragon imo. Props to him though, the first 2 maps werent good for T.
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+ Show Spoiler +Jaedong just owned single handedly the SKT1's best protoss and terran. Ok he didnt OWN Bisu but beated him in a convincing fashion. this and his victory against Flash +the expected wins make him look really strong at the moment
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On December 23 2008 18:04 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2008 15:06 Kuja900 wrote:So fakesteve its been a view days have you seen the Mind games you missed? I know that the series is to late for PR contention but + Show Spoiler +Mind just slew a dragon (kal) in a bo3 series last night and imo removing any questions about his return to form, it appears hes going to have to go dragon slaying all the way if he is going to get to the finals, flash may have to surrender his nick. he slaied the weakest PvT dragon imo. Props to him though, the first 2 maps werent good for T.
eh i disagree kal isnt the weakest pvt dragon imo hes at nearly 60% i think hes tied with a few other dragons in that matchup, definetly not the best tho.
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On December 23 2008 18:04 Geo.Rion wrote:
he slaied the weakest PvT dragon imo. Props to him though, the first 2 maps werent good for T.
Weren't good for T - that's a big euphemism. These two maps are arguably the worst TvP maps ever.
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On December 23 2008 18:04 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2008 15:06 Kuja900 wrote:So fakesteve its been a view days have you seen the Mind games you missed? I know that the series is to late for PR contention but + Show Spoiler +Mind just slew a dragon (kal) in a bo3 series last night and imo removing any questions about his return to form, it appears hes going to have to go dragon slaying all the way if he is going to get to the finals, flash may have to surrender his nick. he slaied the weakest PvT dragon imo. Props to him though, the first 2 maps werent good for T.
Still Kal's PvT is really good . I think Mind has what it takes to slay almost all of the dragons . JangBI and Stork are the premier PvTers and on this maps Mind will have to pull something amazing to beat them . And i also don't think that Kal is the weakest PvTer . Free Kal and Bisu you can consider the weaker PvT half of the dragons , but even the weaker half are helluva strong in this MU . Also Mind beat Free in PL a few weeks ago , but on a more TvP balanced map .
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I think JD need to be top 3 since he beat the hell his group, and the last series, including SKT was top notch opponents...Good bye FBH
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On December 24 2008 05:11 Zyraxes wrote:
I think JD need to be top 3 since he beat the hell his group, and the last series, including SKT was top notch opponents...Good bye FBH
Maybe Top3 if he sweeps his MSL survivor group. Though top 5 is more realistic, the top 3 for this month will still be ranked above him, IMO, not that I like it, though he is looking a lot better than the six dragons excluding Stork, Bisu, and Best.
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On December 24 2008 05:11 Zyraxes wrote:
I think JD need to be top 3 since he beat the hell his group, and the last series, including SKT was top notch opponents...Good bye FBH
Which group are you talking about?
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On December 24 2008 05:11 Zyraxes wrote:
I think JD need to be top 3 since he beat the hell his group, and the last series, including SKT was top notch opponents...Good bye FBH
In my opinion it is illogical to rank jaedong above free given their recent series, id move free up to 4 and let jaedong/jangbi fight for 5th.
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On December 24 2008 06:31 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 05:11 Zyraxes wrote:
I think JD need to be top 3 since he beat the hell his group, and the last series, including SKT was top notch opponents...Good bye FBH In my opinion it is illogical to rank jaedong above free given their recent series, id move free up to 4 and let jaedong/jangbi fight for 5th.
Well, if Jaedong makes both MSL and OSL, he should be ranked above both Free and Jangbi, we both shockingly failed to make OSL.
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Jaedong is just playing like one of the best players again. I mean look. Maybe Free beat JD two months ago. He already got ranked for that. Maybe Jd sucked balls last month. That was last month,he was dropped properly for that. But man,watch his recent games. He is playing like the monster he is again,beating the best Progaming has to offer. Yes,he shouldn't be above Stork and Bisu,but I don't know why people consider Flash so good. Flash is beating n00bs and better players,but when he plays against somebody good,he fails,like he did against Jaedong and Stork. Now if he beats Bisu,that's another story,but if he doesn't beat him,and JD owns his MSL group I see no reason why JD shouldn;t be no 3. I mean look. Free is not as impressive as he was before. He wins matches,but loses to good and bad players like Jaedong did last month. He shouldn't drop as much as Jd did last month,because he is still in the GOM,but he didn't do anything outstanding this month. Jangbi. Okay,Jangbi and Best are both awesome,my best argument why JD should be above them is my fanboyism. But really,look. I don't know who else would have beaten today Bisu than Jaedong. He also beat Flash and Fantasy. So come on,with Jaedong's play,you've got to beleive he is in his top form again,and that is not good for the dragons or the terrans,because he is going to kill everyone. Jaedong is like a Cerebrate. He was slain by the protoss,but not DT's,so he is resurrected and God help those who are standing in his way.
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On December 24 2008 06:50 Darth Peter wrote:
Jaedong is just playing like one of the best players again. I mean look. Maybe Free beat JD two months ago. He already got ranked for that. Maybe Jd sucked balls last month. That was last month,he was dropped properly for that. But man,watch his recent games. He is playing like the monster he is again,beating the best Progaming has to offer. Yes,he shouldn't be above Stork and Bisu,but I don't know why people consider Flash so good. Flash is beating n00bs and better players,but when he plays against somebody good,he fails,like he did against Jaedong and Stork. Now if he beats Bisu,that's another story,but if he doesn't beat him,and JD owns his MSL group I see no reason why JD shouldn;t be no 3. I mean look. Free is not as impressive as he was before. He wins matches,but loses to good and bad players like Jaedong did last month. He shouldn't drop as much as Jd did last month,because he is still in the GOM,but he didn't do anything outstanding this month. Jangbi. Okay,Jangbi and Best are both awesome,my best argument why JD should be above them is my fanboyism. But really,look. I don't know who else would have beaten today Bisu than Jaedong. He also beat Flash and Fantasy. So come on,with Jaedong's play,you've got to beleive he is in his top form again,and that is not good for the dragons or the terrans,because he is going to kill everyone. Jaedong is like a Cerebrate. He was slain by the protoss,but not DT's,so he is resurrected and God help those who are standing in his way.
I got a pretty funny image of the fact that Bisu killed savior with DT:s in their famous series. That's one cerebrate which seems to not resurrect :S
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+ Show Spoiler + and Flash, so now he should jump to #3 on the Power Rank? How many people were mad at Sea for getting just #10 on the Power Rank just for playing 2 good games? Jaedong is playing better, don't get me wrong, but jumping from #8 to #3 is a huge leap, especially when people in front of him haven't exactly been playing poor either.
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On December 24 2008 07:07 Zinbiel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 06:50 Darth Peter wrote:
Jaedong is just playing like one of the best players again. I mean look. Maybe Free beat JD two months ago. He already got ranked for that. Maybe Jd sucked balls last month. That was last month,he was dropped properly for that. But man,watch his recent games. He is playing like the monster he is again,beating the best Progaming has to offer. Yes,he shouldn't be above Stork and Bisu,but I don't know why people consider Flash so good. Flash is beating n00bs and better players,but when he plays against somebody good,he fails,like he did against Jaedong and Stork. Now if he beats Bisu,that's another story,but if he doesn't beat him,and JD owns his MSL group I see no reason why JD shouldn;t be no 3. I mean look. Free is not as impressive as he was before. He wins matches,but loses to good and bad players like Jaedong did last month. He shouldn't drop as much as Jd did last month,because he is still in the GOM,but he didn't do anything outstanding this month. Jangbi. Okay,Jangbi and Best are both awesome,my best argument why JD should be above them is my fanboyism. But really,look. I don't know who else would have beaten today Bisu than Jaedong. He also beat Flash and Fantasy. So come on,with Jaedong's play,you've got to beleive he is in his top form again,and that is not good for the dragons or the terrans,because he is going to kill everyone. Jaedong is like a Cerebrate. He was slain by the protoss,but not DT's,so he is resurrected and God help those who are standing in his way. I got a pretty funny image of the fact that Bisu killed savior with DT:s in their famous series. That's one cerebrate which seems to not resurrect :S
Yeah,Bisu is a DT,Stork,and Free and Jangbi are just Templars,and only DT's can kill a cerebrate in the story. So when Bisu had slain Savior,Savior did not resurrect.
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On December 24 2008 07:09 Sentenal wrote:+ Show Spoiler + and Flash, so now he should jump to #3 on the Power Rank? How many people were mad at Sea for getting just #10 on the Power Rank just for playing 2 good games? Jaedong is playing better, don't get me wrong, but jumping from #8 to #3 is a huge leap, especially when people in front of him haven't exactly been playing poor either.
The reason he dropped from #8 to #3 in the first place was because all those Protoss players above him played so well. IMO, even a drop to #8 was unjustified just because he has benefit of the doubt since he has had the #1 throne for a while now. Because if you look at the caliber of his losing games, (vs Sea) you will see that his losing games are actually incredible. Some of those Protoss players aren't doing so hot lately so #3 isn't impossible, I would put him on #1 if he can beat Stork, Bisu (again), FBH, Jangbi, Free, Sea but 1 month to play Bo3/Bo5 games with all those players is impossible
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On December 24 2008 07:27 AzureEye wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 07:09 Sentenal wrote:+ Show Spoiler + and Flash, so now he should jump to #3 on the Power Rank? How many people were mad at Sea for getting just #10 on the Power Rank just for playing 2 good games? Jaedong is playing better, don't get me wrong, but jumping from #8 to #3 is a huge leap, especially when people in front of him haven't exactly been playing poor either. The reason he dropped from #8 to #3 in the first place was because all those Protoss players above him played so well. IMO, even a drop to #8 was unjustified just because he has benefit of the doubt since he has had the #1 throne for a while now. Because if you look at the caliber of his losing games, (vs Sea) you will see that his losing games are actually incredible. Some of those Protoss players aren't doing so hot lately so #3 isn't impossible, I would put him on #1 if he can beat Stork, Bisu (again), FBH, Jangbi, Free, Sea but 1 month to play Bo3/Bo5 games with all those players is impossible
lol what is even the point of saying "I'd put him at #1 if he could beat all the best players in the world, in 1 month, in Bo3/5s!" If ANY player did that, they would be #1. The reason he dropped to #8 was because he kept getting beaten. Jaedong was given the "benefit of the doubt" the previous month, when he went from #1 to #4. Jaedong will probably rise up in ranks, but he shouldn't be #3. PL wins are not the same as OSL or MSL wins.
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