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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 26 2008 17:13 GMT
#501
I predict a zerg to take a SL next season He is from CJ and its not called savior
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-26 17:15:58
November 26 2008 17:15 GMT
#502
On November 27 2008 02:13 disciple wrote:
I predict a zerg to take a SL next season He is from CJ and he IS called savior



corrected
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
November 26 2008 17:45 GMT
#503
Yeah,and don't forget about Calm. There are couple of good zergs out there,I don't think the situation is catastrophic for them,just like many people say. Jaedong and Luxury are not as dominant as last season,but they were the only zergs that could win matches last season. I think Out of Effort,Saint,Calm and Zero,and Yarnc,somebody will rise and win a Starleague pretty soon.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
November 26 2008 17:59 GMT
#504
I predict a zerg from Lecaf who is not called Tosky will win a starleague next season.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
November 26 2008 18:17 GMT
#505
On November 27 2008 02:59 GeneralStan wrote:
I predict a zerg from Lecaf who is not called Tosky will win a starleague next season.

Oh,do you mean Ever)Z Killer?
I really hope you are right,I would love to see Jaedong win another Starleague,hope he pulls his shit back together.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 26 2008 18:57 GMT
#506
Saint, Calm, Zero, Yarnc = chumps. Maybe they are quite descent zerg players but I cant see the eye-catching flair of brutality in any of them. Effort is but smth else. HE WILL destroy everyone in 2009 if he develops correctly
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
November 26 2008 19:42 GMT
#507
On November 27 2008 03:57 disciple wrote:
Saint, Calm, Zero, Yarnc = chumps. Maybe they are quite descent zerg players but I cant see the eye-catching flair of brutality in any of them. Effort is but smth else. HE WILL destroy everyone in 2009 if he develops correctly

Effort is beastly Z v T,but we didn't really seen him play Z v P and Z vZ,and I am curious. He beat Kal in Incruit Osl,but Kal was ass then,and Kal is also known for inconsistency,so beating him doesn't really say anything about him. In Z v Z he only beat Kwanro and s2(lol). But his Z v T really is promising and I hope his Z v P and Z v Z is also good.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 26 2008 20:44 GMT
#508
On November 27 2008 03:57 disciple wrote:
Saint, Calm, Zero, Yarnc = chumps. Maybe they are quite descent zerg players but I cant see the eye-catching flair of brutality in any of them. Effort is but smth else. HE WILL destroy everyone in 2009 if he develops correctly


calling any of the PL top10 chump proves you lack understanding to the pro-scene. they might not be champion but the progamers arent split to 2 categories (champions/chumps)
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-26 21:46:34
November 26 2008 21:34 GMT
#509
On November 27 2008 05:44 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 03:57 disciple wrote:
Saint, Calm, Zero, Yarnc = chumps. Maybe they are quite descent zerg players but I cant see the eye-catching flair of brutality in any of them. Effort is but smth else. HE WILL destroy everyone in 2009 if he develops correctly


calling any of the PL top10 chump proves you lack understanding to the pro-scene. they might not be champion but the progamers arent split to 2 categories (champions/chumps)

yes they are. thou the competition is stronger than ever, the top tear gamers are getting so many that its extremely hard to breakthru. The simple logic says that if for example Saint which you all say has a lot of potential meets one of hmm let me see bisu,stork,jangbi,kal,free,jd,forgg,flash,even best he is out. With that being said I do believe that the Ro8 of every tournament will get a playground of the players mentioned above. Its hard to predict the eventual champion of a given tournament but there are so many strong contenders and I dont see them slumping all together incredibly hard. For me there are champs, ok guys, and chumps. I dont have a reason to classify saint zero and yarnc not as chumps. Calm earned some respect recently but will we see how the new season progresses for him, I wish him all the best. And if you follow the scene carefully you will surely observe the odd trend that the PL performance is extremely different from how the given gamer plays in the individual leagues. Anytime's best season in the PL was a total fiasco in the SL, and we are still waiting the PL giant Sea to actually earn a championship for himself. Midas did fine this season in the OSL but he is nowhere to see in the PL. NaDa too, the old man made it again to the Ro8 in MSL but where is his PL performance? What about Lucifer and Pure? List goes on and on
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
November 26 2008 22:10 GMT
#510
I dunno what happened but the games in the PL are gettin` weirder. I mean, I used to be 3 points behind 1st place in LB, but in the last week, I didn`t got any match right (except for those of yesterday: SKT, Woongjin)
oh and I`m worried for lecaf :-s
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
November 26 2008 22:56 GMT
#511
On November 27 2008 04:42 Darth Peter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 03:57 disciple wrote:
Saint, Calm, Zero, Yarnc = chumps. Maybe they are quite descent zerg players but I cant see the eye-catching flair of brutality in any of them. Effort is but smth else. HE WILL destroy everyone in 2009 if he develops correctly

Effort is beastly Z v T,but we didn't really seen him play Z v P and Z vZ,and I am curious. He beat Kal in Incruit Osl,but Kal was ass then,and Kal is also known for inconsistency,so beating him doesn't really say anything about him. In Z v Z he only beat Kwanro and s2(lol). But his Z v T really is promising and I hope his Z v P and Z v Z is also good.

What?

Beating one of the better PvZ's in the scene doesn't really say anything?

Are you serious?
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 27 2008 00:37 GMT
#512
quick bait question here: does anyone think flash's proleague performance has been significantly better than jaedong's proleague performance this season?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
November 27 2008 01:03 GMT
#513
On November 27 2008 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
quick bait question here: does anyone think flash's proleague performance has been significantly better than jaedong's proleague performance this season?
yeah huh
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
November 27 2008 02:09 GMT
#514
On November 27 2008 10:03 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
quick bait question here: does anyone think flash's proleague performance has been significantly better than jaedong's proleague performance this season?
yeah huh

I would agree if you took off the significantly.
10-4 vs 10-5?
Jaedong
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 27 2008 02:13 GMT
#515
On November 27 2008 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
quick bait question here: does anyone think flash's proleague performance has been significantly better than jaedong's proleague performance this season?

Definately not
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
November 27 2008 02:16 GMT
#516
On November 27 2008 11:09 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 10:03 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On November 27 2008 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
quick bait question here: does anyone think flash's proleague performance has been significantly better than jaedong's proleague performance this season?
yeah huh

I would agree if you took off the significantly.
10-4 vs 10-5?
Except the game against Jaedong [where Flash was rushed iirc], Flash has looked GOOD. It's not about win record. Jaedong has looked good in some games, and TERRIBLE in others. So yes, Flash is doing significantly better, because win or lose, Flash looks like a top player in good form. That can not be said for Jaedong. He's inconsistent, hes unstable.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-27 02:43:05
November 27 2008 02:42 GMT
#517
On November 27 2008 11:16 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 11:09 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On November 27 2008 10:03 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On November 27 2008 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
quick bait question here: does anyone think flash's proleague performance has been significantly better than jaedong's proleague performance this season?
yeah huh

I would agree if you took off the significantly.
10-4 vs 10-5?
Except the game against Jaedong [where Flash was rushed iirc], Flash has looked GOOD. It's not about win record. Jaedong has looked good in some games, and TERRIBLE in others. So yes, Flash is doing significantly better, because win or lose, Flash looks like a top player in good form. That can not be said for Jaedong. He's inconsistent, hes unstable.

Lol, Jaedong is one of the top players who has never slumped in his career so far. I'm not saying Flash didn't look better, just not significantly better, I mean, losing to Zero? That's what you call looking good.
Jaedong
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-27 03:05:07
November 27 2008 02:53 GMT
#518
On November 27 2008 11:42 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 11:16 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On November 27 2008 11:09 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On November 27 2008 10:03 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On November 27 2008 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
quick bait question here: does anyone think flash's proleague performance has been significantly better than jaedong's proleague performance this season?
yeah huh

I would agree if you took off the significantly.
10-4 vs 10-5?
Except the game against Jaedong [where Flash was rushed iirc], Flash has looked GOOD. It's not about win record. Jaedong has looked good in some games, and TERRIBLE in others. So yes, Flash is doing significantly better, because win or lose, Flash looks like a top player in good form. That can not be said for Jaedong. He's inconsistent, hes unstable.

Lol, Jaedong is one of the top players who has never slumped in his career so far. I'm not saying Flash didn't look better, just not significantly better, I mean, losing to Zero? That's what you call looking good.

did you watch the game? did you watch jaedong's games vs kal/fbh? and although you would expect flash to win that game, losing to zero is no shame imo. the guy's been hot
flash has been playing better than jaedong, but idk about _significant_. significant is very unclear...how significant is significant
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
November 27 2008 03:18 GMT
#519
Zero looked really good against Flash. Flash played well. Did he play as well as he did in ages past? No, no he did not. But Flash played a solid game. Zero won that match, Flash did not lose it, if you understand what I mean.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
November 27 2008 03:18 GMT
#520
On November 27 2008 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
quick bait question here: does anyone think flash's proleague performance has been significantly better than jaedong's proleague performance this season?

So you don't ask the question because you don't know the answer you ask the question to see how the masses will respond.

My response: Define significantly, if significantly means much better than the answer is clearly no, Flash has not been much better than Jaedong. But if it means clearly, than I would say yes Flash is clearly doing better in proleague than Jaedong is.
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