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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 25 2008 06:26 GMT
#461
Lol, I meant leave just this part:
well this is only two games that he's blown a huge lead, and two of the 3 I can remember in recent history (the other against Free). I'm curious to see where this will go.
Jaedong
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 06:38:32
November 25 2008 06:38 GMT
#462
I wonder who will replace fantasy and forgg coz i don't really think they fit.
savior or firebathero perhaps.
I would say Calm, but that guy seriously gets all his wins from early lings rofl.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 25 2008 06:45 GMT
#463
Hate to say it, but Calm, unless Fantasy and ForGG aren't dropped.
Jaedong
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 25 2008 06:51 GMT
#464
I'd say Savior has to be on the outside looking in. I think he's behind FBH, Pusan, Calm, and Fantasy right now.

And while Savior has been a consistent PL performer, he has not played a lot of games like a "PL Ace" should. And he doesn't have starleague games as an excuse either. He's still not a player you can just put every week and expect him to perform.
Meh
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
November 25 2008 06:56 GMT
#465
On November 25 2008 15:51 baubo wrote:
I'd say Savior has to be on the outside looking in. I think he's behind FBH, Pusan, Calm, and Fantasy right now.

And while Savior has been a consistent PL performer, he has not played a lot of games like a "PL Ace" should. And he doesn't have starleague games as an excuse either. He's still not a player you can just put every week and expect him to perform.


true, i was abit biased. But im just happy he's on the right path. ofcourse other deserves it more.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 25 2008 07:05 GMT
#466
On a side note, I am so happy Februarys is gone. The worst fanboy in the history of power ranking thread, and at the same time he manages to come up with the most illogical and ridiculous arguments. Contradicting himself is also his hobby. Not to mention he accuses everyone else of being biased.

Good thing he made a stupid thread under a different account and praised himself on another.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 25 2008 07:07 GMT
#467
Nope, he'll be coming back in 2 Weeks as F13.
Jaedong
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 25 2008 07:08 GMT
#468
Haha well I better enjoy those two weeks then
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 25 2008 07:14 GMT
#469
On November 25 2008 16:08 OneOther wrote:
Haha well I better enjoy those two weeks then


Perfect timing, 1 week before the new power rank to argue about spots, and 1 week afterwards to argue about, well, spots.
Jaedong
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 25 2008 07:23 GMT
#470
Lol I just looked through his post history:
Two things he ever talks about

1) Jaedong rulez no mater what happens
2) Terran is imba. T>P T>Z
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 07:26:05
November 25 2008 07:25 GMT
#471
On November 25 2008 16:23 OneOther wrote:
Lol I just looked through his post history:
Two things he ever talks about

1) Jaedong rulez no mater what happens
2) Terran is imba. T>P T>Z

OMGZ SO TRUE.


I'll have to say, the way you phrased the first point, I can't disagree.
Jaedong
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
November 25 2008 13:21 GMT
#472
This is the second time I see 50 posts in 8 hours . I was worried that this month's PR would have only like 150 comments. Oh well
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
November 25 2008 13:22 GMT
#473
Jangbi did play Jaedong,in the Gom last season,and was beaten in two straight sets,when he was playing like a n00b. If you don't believe me,watch the games on gomtv.net. On another note tho,Free lost to Jd too then,and beat him recently,so Idk. And statistically,perhaps Free shown inconsistency in PvT,but not the last two months,which I think should count in this power rank,not something that happened a 10.000 years ago. Free only lost to Lomo,a good player,and Flash,the best terran right now,and blown a major lead. Other than that,terrans were Free's bitches the last two months,beating considerable players. On the other hand,Jangbi lost to Shine!!!!, and Iris. He did manage to beat Midas and a shitload of good terrans,but saying right now that Jangbi's P v T is better than Free's is like saying that Jaedong would own Jangbi again. Not proven. I don't say his P v T is worse,but it's equal in the best case.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
November 25 2008 13:25 GMT
#474
On November 25 2008 22:22 Darth Peter wrote:
Jangbi did play Jaedong,in the Gom last season,and was beaten in two straight sets,when he was playing like a n00b. If you don't believe me,watch the games on gomtv.net. On another note tho,Free lost to Jd too then,and beat him recently,so Idk. And statistically,perhaps Free shown inconsistency in PvT,but not the last two months,which I think should count in this power rank,not something that happened a 10.000 years ago. Free only lost to Lomo,a good player,and Flash,the best terran right now,and blown a major lead. Other than that,terrans were Free's bitches the last two months,beating considerable players. On the other hand,Jangbi lost to Shine!!!!, and Iris. He did manage to beat Midas and a shitload of good terrans,but saying right now that Jangbi's P v T is better than Free's is like saying that Jaedong would own Jangbi again. Not proven. I don't say his P v T is worse,but it's equal in the best case.


wasn't last season gomtv like 10.000 years ago?
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 13:31:55
November 25 2008 13:29 GMT
#475
On November 25 2008 22:22 Darth Peter wrote:
Jangbi did play Jaedong,in the Gom last season,and was beaten in two straight sets,when he was playing like a n00b. If you don't believe me,watch the games on gomtv.net. On another note tho,Free lost to Jd too then,and beat him recently,so Idk. And statistically,perhaps Free shown inconsistency in PvT,but not the last two months,which I think should count in this power rank,not something that happened a 10.000 years ago. Free only lost to Lomo,a good player,and Flash,the best terran right now,and blown a major lead. Other than that,terrans were Free's bitches the last two months,beating considerable players. On the other hand,Jangbi lost to Shine!!!!, and Iris. He did manage to beat Midas and a shitload of good terrans,but saying right now that Jangbi's P v T is better than Free's is like saying that Jaedong would own Jangbi again. Not proven. I don't say his P v T is worse,but it's equal in the best case.
No its not. You dont have to play top players CONSTANTLY to know who is the better player. Look at the quality of their games. Jangbi players a more well rounded, consistent, intelligent style of pvt, and has his entire career. Free...hasn't. Jangbi's game against Shine was off air, and for all we know he was majorly cheesed. As for Iris...are you kidding me? Iris is a beastly terran. Again, you don't really have a case for Free's pvt being better than Jangbi's. Jangbi and Stork are the best pvt players out there, you kinda have to do more than win once in a while for a month to actually be considered a pvt beast like them...


And other than Sea [and even sea to be honest] none of the terrans Free beat are anywhere near top players. Dongrae for god sakes.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
November 25 2008 13:47 GMT
#476
If I look at the quality of games,I see Free making the legendary Nada look like a newb and having one of the most God-likely goon control I've seen in my life. I didn't say losing to Iris is a shame,I said losing to Shine is a shame. Really,I can't say Free's P v T is better,but I can't say Jangbi's is better either. And yeah,they have to face good players constantly to determine. I mean think about it. Stork and Bisu were shit 3 months ago. They lost to Backho and had a shitload of embarassing losses,and now they are at top of the mountain. The world can change really much in one month,so I don't think that we can say Jangbi is better PvT based on past experiences.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 25 2008 14:05 GMT
#477
On November 25 2008 22:47 Darth Peter wrote:
If I look at the quality of games,I see Free making the legendary Nada look like a newb and having one of the most God-likely goon control I've seen in my life. I didn't say losing to Iris is a shame,I said losing to Shine is a shame. Really,I can't say Free's P v T is better,but I can't say Jangbi's is better either. And yeah,they have to face good players constantly to determine. I mean think about it. Stork and Bisu were shit 3 months ago. They lost to Backho and had a shitload of embarassing losses,and now they are at top of the mountain. The world can change really much in one month,so I don't think that we can say Jangbi is better PvT based on past experiences.


You do realize that Nada's not even good enough to play on a 4-6 mediocre Wemade Fox team, right? You might want to check out how many times his coach sent him out for PL games.

Btw, by your logic...

Bisu is a shame since he lost to Tazza.
Flash is a shame since he lost to Zero.
Stork is a shame because he lost to Orion.
Jaedong is a shame because he lost to Sangho
Best is a shame because he lost to Nal_keke

Look, cherry-picking losses will result in all progamers be considered failures.
Meh
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 15:35:21
November 25 2008 15:24 GMT
#478
On November 25 2008 22:47 Darth Peter wrote:
Btw, by your logic...

Bisu is a shame since he lost to Tazza.
Flash is a shame since he lost to Zero.
Stork is a shame because he lost to Orion.
Jaedong is a shame because he lost to Sangho
Best is a shame because he lost to Nal_keke

Look, cherry-picking losses will result in all progamers be considered failures.


Lame losses happen to everybody,yes,and Stork and Bisu are so above everyone else right now,that these losses do not threaten their position. Flash is not a shame,because Zero is looking awesome. Jaedong's and Best's losses were already penalized,they both fallen down several spots. Yeah,these kind of losses happen in Proleague,I agree, but Free and Jangbi are so close to each other that at this level,these losses matter,because Free didn't lose to any scrubs this month.
Hugo(Sphere)
Profile Joined July 2008
United States44 Posts
November 25 2008 16:38 GMT
#479
Nada is not anywhere what he used to be. Jangbi is much more dangerous in PvT than Free is. Free displayed great micro, and that's what he's known for. Jangbi and Stork are the only two P's that I would fear right now, and I'm a huge Flash fan. Jangbi probably even more so than Stork. The draw game between Flash and Jangbi was just ridiculous...
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 25 2008 17:05 GMT
#480
On November 26 2008 00:24 Darth Peter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 22:47 Darth Peter wrote:
Btw, by your logic...

Bisu is a shame since he lost to Tazza.
Flash is a shame since he lost to Zero.
Stork is a shame because he lost to Orion.
Jaedong is a shame because he lost to Sangho
Best is a shame because he lost to Nal_keke

Look, cherry-picking losses will result in all progamers be considered failures.


Lame losses happen to everybody,yes,and Stork and Bisu are so above everyone else right now,that these losses do not threaten their position. Flash is not a shame,because Zero is looking awesome.


So how do you know that Shine wasn't somehow on crack and playing out of his mind against Jangbi?


Jaedong's and Best's losses were already penalized,they both fallen down several spots. Yeah,these kind of losses happen in Proleague,I agree, but Free and Jangbi are so close to each other that at this level,these losses matter,because Free didn't lose to any scrubs this month.


Neither did Jangbi. He lost to scrubs last month. This month, all he did was rolled over Kal, Much, Hwasin, Yarnc, and then lost to Bisu(so did Free so this evens out).

Btw, you still haven't responded to my Nada comment. Free 3-0 Nada is not that impressive.

Anyway, tomorrow's game should clear things up a bit. If Jangbi beats Pusan, then he should be #3 next month on the PR. If he loses, then I'm not so certain.
Meh
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