EPTwell this is only two games that he's blown a huge lead, and two of the 3 I can remember in recent history (the other against Free). I'm curious to see where this will go.
Power Rank 11/10/2008 - Page 24
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
well this is only two games that he's blown a huge lead, and two of the 3 I can remember in recent history (the other against Free). I'm curious to see where this will go. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
savior or firebathero perhaps. I would say Calm, but that guy seriously gets all his wins from early lings rofl. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
And while Savior has been a consistent PL performer, he has not played a lot of games like a "PL Ace" should. And he doesn't have starleague games as an excuse either. He's still not a player you can just put every week and expect him to perform. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On November 25 2008 15:51 baubo wrote: I'd say Savior has to be on the outside looking in. I think he's behind FBH, Pusan, Calm, and Fantasy right now. And while Savior has been a consistent PL performer, he has not played a lot of games like a "PL Ace" should. And he doesn't have starleague games as an excuse either. He's still not a player you can just put every week and expect him to perform. true, i was abit biased. But im just happy he's on the right path. ofcourse other deserves it more. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
Good thing he made a stupid thread under a different account and praised himself on another. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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OneOther
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 25 2008 16:08 OneOther wrote: Haha well I better enjoy those two weeks then Perfect timing, 1 week before the new power rank to argue about spots, and 1 week afterwards to argue about, well, spots. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
Two things he ever talks about 1) Jaedong rulez no mater what happens 2) Terran is imba. T>P T>Z | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 25 2008 16:23 OneOther wrote: Lol I just looked through his post history: Two things he ever talks about 1) Jaedong rulez no mater what happens 2) Terran is imba. T>P T>Z OMGZ SO TRUE.  I'll have to say, the way you phrased the first point, I can't disagree. | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On November 25 2008 22:22 Darth Peter wrote: Jangbi did play Jaedong,in the Gom last season,and was beaten in two straight sets,when he was playing like a n00b. If you don't believe me,watch the games on gomtv.net. On another note tho,Free lost to Jd too then,and beat him recently,so Idk. And statistically,perhaps Free shown inconsistency in PvT,but not the last two months,which I think should count in this power rank,not something that happened a 10.000 years ago. Free only lost to Lomo,a good player,and Flash,the best terran right now,and blown a major lead. Other than that,terrans were Free's bitches the last two months,beating considerable players. On the other hand,Jangbi lost to Shine!!!!, and Iris. He did manage to beat Midas and a shitload of good terrans,but saying right now that Jangbi's P v T is better than Free's is like saying that Jaedong would own Jangbi again. Not proven. I don't say his P v T is worse,but it's equal in the best case. wasn't last season gomtv like 10.000 years ago? | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On November 25 2008 22:22 Darth Peter wrote: No its not. You dont have to play top players CONSTANTLY to know who is the better player. Look at the quality of their games. Jangbi players a more well rounded, consistent, intelligent style of pvt, and has his entire career. Free...hasn't. Jangbi's game against Shine was off air, and for all we know he was majorly cheesed. As for Iris...are you kidding me? Iris is a beastly terran. Again, you don't really have a case for Free's pvt being better than Jangbi's. Jangbi and Stork are the best pvt players out there, you kinda have to do more than win once in a while for a month to actually be considered a pvt beast like them...Jangbi did play Jaedong,in the Gom last season,and was beaten in two straight sets,when he was playing like a n00b. If you don't believe me,watch the games on gomtv.net. On another note tho,Free lost to Jd too then,and beat him recently,so Idk. And statistically,perhaps Free shown inconsistency in PvT,but not the last two months,which I think should count in this power rank,not something that happened a 10.000 years ago. Free only lost to Lomo,a good player,and Flash,the best terran right now,and blown a major lead. Other than that,terrans were Free's bitches the last two months,beating considerable players. On the other hand,Jangbi lost to Shine!!!!, and Iris. He did manage to beat Midas and a shitload of good terrans,but saying right now that Jangbi's P v T is better than Free's is like saying that Jaedong would own Jangbi again. Not proven. I don't say his P v T is worse,but it's equal in the best case. And other than Sea [and even sea to be honest] none of the terrans Free beat are anywhere near top players. Dongrae for god sakes. | ||
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 25 2008 22:47 Darth Peter wrote: If I look at the quality of games,I see Free making the legendary Nada look like a newb and having one of the most God-likely goon control I've seen in my life. I didn't say losing to Iris is a shame,I said losing to Shine is a shame. Really,I can't say Free's P v T is better,but I can't say Jangbi's is better either. And yeah,they have to face good players constantly to determine. I mean think about it. Stork and Bisu were shit 3 months ago. They lost to Backho and had a shitload of embarassing losses,and now they are at top of the mountain. The world can change really much in one month,so I don't think that we can say Jangbi is better PvT based on past experiences. You do realize that Nada's not even good enough to play on a 4-6 mediocre Wemade Fox team, right? You might want to check out how many times his coach sent him out for PL games. Btw, by your logic... Bisu is a shame since he lost to Tazza. Flash is a shame since he lost to Zero. Stork is a shame because he lost to Orion. Jaedong is a shame because he lost to Sangho Best is a shame because he lost to Nal_keke Look, cherry-picking losses will result in all progamers be considered failures. | ||
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On November 25 2008 22:47 Darth Peter wrote: Btw, by your logic... Bisu is a shame since he lost to Tazza. Flash is a shame since he lost to Zero. Stork is a shame because he lost to Orion. Jaedong is a shame because he lost to Sangho Best is a shame because he lost to Nal_keke Look, cherry-picking losses will result in all progamers be considered failures. Lame losses happen to everybody,yes,and Stork and Bisu are so above everyone else right now,that these losses do not threaten their position. Flash is not a shame,because Zero is looking awesome. Jaedong's and Best's losses were already penalized,they both fallen down several spots. Yeah,these kind of losses happen in Proleague,I agree, but Free and Jangbi are so close to each other that at this level,these losses matter,because Free didn't lose to any scrubs this month. | ||
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Hugo(Sphere)
United States44 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 26 2008 00:24 Darth Peter wrote: Lame losses happen to everybody,yes,and Stork and Bisu are so above everyone else right now,that these losses do not threaten their position. Flash is not a shame,because Zero is looking awesome. So how do you know that Shine wasn't somehow on crack and playing out of his mind against Jangbi? Jaedong's and Best's losses were already penalized,they both fallen down several spots. Yeah,these kind of losses happen in Proleague,I agree, but Free and Jangbi are so close to each other that at this level,these losses matter,because Free didn't lose to any scrubs this month. Neither did Jangbi. He lost to scrubs last month. This month, all he did was rolled over Kal, Much, Hwasin, Yarnc, and then lost to Bisu(so did Free so this evens out). Btw, you still haven't responded to my Nada comment. Free 3-0 Nada is not that impressive. Anyway, tomorrow's game should clear things up a bit. If Jangbi beats Pusan, then he should be #3 next month on the PR. If he loses, then I'm not so certain. | ||
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