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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
October 15 2008 23:39 GMT
#41
For me it's Sea. When your hopes are so high...it's a long way down =<.
DeepGray
Profile Joined October 2008
United States214 Posts
October 15 2008 23:53 GMT
#42
On October 16 2008 06:28 Ozarugold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2008 05:24 zOula... wrote:
Other: Jaedong

What the? Where did this come from? How is Jaedong failing to meet expectations?

HE HAS'T HAD MAH BABIES YET!
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
October 16 2008 00:37 GMT
#43
flash turning into terran backho o.0?
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
October 16 2008 01:05 GMT
#44
Luxury. Two OSL's semifinals, two times failing like a B-level Zerg.

After those two semifinals you'd think he'd come back with a vengeance, instead we get him not even making it past group stages. wtf
I know where my towel is.
capek
Profile Joined September 2008
United States585 Posts
October 16 2008 01:56 GMT
#45
On October 16 2008 09:37 caelym wrote:
flash turning into terran backho o.0?

No backho is funny and can dance.
Flash just cries and loses.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
October 16 2008 03:17 GMT
#46
Mind. After winning his MSL convincingly, he just disappeared. But he's still really good though. I know he's just waiting until he can surprise his opponents with amazingly well thought-out builds.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
October 16 2008 03:24 GMT
#47
Flash is 3-3 in the proleague :/
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
October 16 2008 03:41 GMT
#48
I voted Sea just for Faksteve.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
October 16 2008 03:49 GMT
#49
Sea.

My expectations are high because we love him though. And he's hella talented and whatnot.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 16 2008 04:40 GMT
#50
I voted Sea, but Much, FlaSh and Bisu are definitely close.

Sea only 'cause it would've been awesome if he'd raped all the way to the top after connecting with the foreign community so well...):
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
October 16 2008 04:45 GMT
#51
On October 16 2008 04:50 TheTyranid wrote:
Flash won a starleague and Sea has not. Flash has been past ro16 seven times. Sea is a dominant player with one of the best winrates in progaming and he has NEVER made it past the ro16.

Flash is in a slump which is natural for any progamer. Sea is a complete mistery.

Sea gets the vote easy.

edit: haha I see it now. The reason why Flash has so many votes is because of his numerous fans expressing their emotions based on just his past few games.


if by past few you mean approx. 40, then yeah everyone means his past few games.

no one expects sea to make it past the ro16 (not even steve expects it, he hopes. big difference). everyone expects flash to stomp everyones faces. sea is not making it past the ro16 and flash is not stomping anybodys face.

what makes it worse is that flash is still capable of said face stomping, he just plays like a complete fucking idiot and refuses to adapt his game while everyone else has their perfectly tuned counters coming at him. what happened to the sheer brilliance against stork in the gom finals then osl finals?
AUSSIESCUM
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pajaro
Profile Joined October 2008
Trinidad/Tobago5 Posts
October 16 2008 05:10 GMT
#52
Sea by far. Mechancis are top notch and still no gold =[
<3 Stork[jOypOp]
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-16 06:44:24
October 16 2008 06:42 GMT
#53
Half a year ago I'd said Sea, but I'm not really expecting much out of him anymore.

However Bisu, my party boy, always gives you those moments of brilliance and keeps fucking up badly time after time, so my vote goes to him.

Don't disappoint today please. I skipped school (a 2 hour lecture of boring psyshocology but still)
to be able to watch today's games live. - Fucking hyped I am, Yoda said.

Regarding Flash? Please, didn't really anyone think he'd be figured out eventually doing the same stuff all the time? Fine, he's a monster, but in the same way ForGG was a monster when all he did was churning out units.

Fine, I guess the same "figured out eventually" could be applied to Bisu's style vs Zerg a year ago - which finally was figured out and crushed by Jaedong, July (both Bluestorm though, Bisu's most hated map at the time) and fakeyellow among others.
Thing is, he's adapted and doesn't throw in the heavy harass style so often anymore. He did it vs Odin on Andromeda (?) a few weeks ago, but I wouldn't say it's standard for him anymore.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-16 10:49:01
October 16 2008 10:48 GMT
#54
how come flash got so many votes ? ...at least he won something...
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
October 16 2008 16:49 GMT
#55
On October 16 2008 19:48 Jaeden wrote:
how come flash got so many votes ? ...at least he won something...

thats exactly the point of the poll.
flash is failing to meet expectations because he raised the bar so high with what he's shown in the past. now he's falling flat on his face trying to show the same dominance he had not even 6 months ago
AUSSIESCUM
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karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
October 16 2008 17:20 GMT
#56
sea
zzzzzz
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
October 16 2008 17:48 GMT
#57
Unless Stork wins something other than WCG, I would say him. But for the time being I'll have to go with Flash, his rivalry with JD was epic about 1-2 months ago. Now he is just another terran that will go 14 CC everyday.
I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever ~ CJ Entusman # 7
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 16 2008 19:00 GMT
#58
For this list, it's either Sea or Much. Both of them play so well, get into both leagues, then end up dropping games they 'should' win.

Flash is failing, but it's only the most of everyone if you're a crazed Flash fan and believe he's actually as good as Jaedong and deserves to win with risky economic or metal (vs zerg) builds every game. Don't get me wrong, his mechanics are top-notch. I just don't have high expectations for him because his choice of build orders is continually terrible. Yes, even when he wins a lot of the time.

But really, the answer to this is Midas, and it has been for years now. Though, stork could realistically pass him if he fails to win anything yet again. And hell, if that happens we may even start forgetting about all those Yellow #2s too.
Oh, my eSports
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 16 2008 20:27 GMT
#59
Everyone loved sea, but he has never done that well. He also needs to feel more confident in his builds that arn't 14 cc.

Stork still has a shot, so it can't be him (at least this time around).

Flash I would say is the biggest one. He looks good every game he plays, and you just can't quite put the finger on why he's losing a heck of a lot of games. It's not micro, it's not macro. He's just not playing at a transcendent level.

The same argument goes with bisu. He hasn't been playing poorly, but he hasn't been playing well either.

Luxury, Mind, and Much, are all in the same remaining boat of being right on the cusp of S-class (S-class in this case playing at a transcendent level). All of them have accomplished loads more than lots of other players, but they haven't blown anyone's brain yet with their play.
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NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
October 16 2008 21:20 GMT
#60
I voted Luxury because OGN is still doing very well without one of their star players. Yellow and Leta (who has always been awesome in the PL) are showing they can carry the team without Luxury who could arguably been their best player.

Luxury also lost straight games in the OSL and i dont think he participated in the MSL
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