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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
October 15 2008 17:31 GMT
#21
Mind is the most disappointing. After crushing Savior and Bisu in some very convincing games to win the MSL, he never really lived up to expectations. I really think he has the capability to beat any player on the planet, including Jaedong and Flash.

I've been a big fan of Mind since he won that MSL. When he wins, he wins in a big way. Mind fighting! Get the GomTV title!
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 17:50:21
October 15 2008 17:32 GMT
#22
Sea becourse i expected so much from him, but i guess he was never that good.

secondly flash, though i dont mind it.

EDIT: Why bisu? hes blown my expectations, i thought he was gone.
This is real life, where nerds must battle!
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
October 15 2008 17:37 GMT
#23
WTF ? Flash ? O_O
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 15 2008 17:51 GMT
#24
Flash is so disappointing because you know he has what it takes to straight up take down everyone. When you see a mediocre terran trying to lay down a slow push youre just like mannnn if flash were doing this it would be so much better.

when flash loses anymore so many of the time its due to some retarded BO that he choses.

right now if flash is going to play non standard, it should always be for an aggressive build, not a greedy one, because everyone is going hyper aggression on him (Yarnc's 9pool, Forgg's multiple 2 facs, Jaedong's 2 hatch in GOM, FBH's proxy ETC)
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 20:41:11
October 15 2008 17:55 GMT
#25
Flash easily. Luxury would be second.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 18:44:43
October 15 2008 18:42 GMT
#26
bisu makes this poll if it was like 9 or 10 months ago. he's actually good again, and arguably better than anyone else on the poll (who knows about flash and luxury)

also - why much? no shame in losing to bisu in both leagues, bisu's just a better pvp at this point.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
October 15 2008 19:31 GMT
#27
Flash for sure. Seems like he went from top 2 to top 10 material in like a month's time. I feel that Jaedong could slay him anyday, when a month ago I'd say it was a close tossup.
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 19:51:40
October 15 2008 19:50 GMT
#28
Flash won a starleague and Sea has not. Flash has been past ro16 seven times. Sea is a dominant player with one of the best winrates in progaming and he has NEVER made it past the ro16.

Flash is in a slump which is natural for any progamer. Sea is a complete mistery.

Sea gets the vote easy.

edit: haha I see it now. The reason why Flash has so many votes is because of his numerous fans expressing their emotions based on just his past few games.
vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-16 07:38:13
October 15 2008 20:17 GMT
#29
I voted for Flash, but that was mostly for everyone here. Honestly, I called Flash's slump coming when he lost to Best's carrier rush build in PL last season, so I'm not surprised that he's not doing very well at the moment. I think he's still got a lot of potential, and hopefully we'll see him come back and be a very strong player in the future.

I should have voted for Sea. Sea is like Stork except he chokes sooner. >< Too bad, really, he's a really entertaining player to watch, and he could do really well, especially if he scouts the proxies in the future.

EDIT: where the hell is sAviOr on this list??
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 15 2008 20:22 GMT
#30
for this moment, its flash

in general (ie who was someone we thought would do a lot, but still hasnt) its luxury

he has a lot of talent (at one time, debatably the second best zerg), but he hasnt accomplished all that much with it
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
October 15 2008 20:24 GMT
#31
Other: Jaedong
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
October 15 2008 20:47 GMT
#32
Mind, he is one of my favourite terrans, but he keeps losing to mediocre progamers, while he is often able to crush top tier progamers, i just don't understand him - but i trust in him, even tho he isnt that big for now as i wished him, I'm sure he will become the progamer2beat one day
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 15 2008 21:24 GMT
#33
(T)Flash easy.

He... Just can't win since osl groups.
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
October 15 2008 21:28 GMT
#34
On October 16 2008 05:24 zOula... wrote:
Other: Jaedong

What the? Where did this come from? How is Jaedong failing to meet expectations?
this is my quote.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 15 2008 21:31 GMT
#35
Flash went 3-0 vs. Julyzerg, Much, and Bisu in the osl.

Then he lost to GGplay at the next round?

Wow...
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 21:35:32
October 15 2008 21:33 GMT
#36
On October 16 2008 05:24 zOula... wrote:
Other: Jaedong

LOL?

IMO, it would have to be forGG. After beating Jaedong in MSL, everything seemed to go downhill for him. On the other hand, Jaedong recovered from it by pwning Flash hard in GOM.
But Flash definitely has not lost all his steam (yet)
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
pewpew
Profile Joined February 2008
United States132 Posts
October 15 2008 22:06 GMT
#37
I'd have to say Much. I understand that every once in a while he's going to try out some off the wall shit, like one base carriers vs. Bisu, and when he loses those games, its just kinda like "Oh, well at least that was interesting to watch. Good try." But when its a straight up and down game, standard builds, nothing cheesy, and he STILL loses? It upsets me. He can destroy Zerg if it came down to it. His most recent game vs. July proves that. So then why did he lose to somebody like Calm, all because of not scouting?
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 15 2008 22:52 GMT
#38
Flash. It's not even that he's playing badly; but my expectations for him are so high that 5-5 in the last 10 is a big disappointment.
May the BeSt man win.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
October 15 2008 23:29 GMT
#39
ForGG's doing fine, he just hasn't been doing a lot. Lecaf coach is holding him back from PL because he wants to develop at least two of Lomo/Backho/Hiya to the point where they can deliver wins consistently. ForGG just barely missed OSL by playing like 8 games in one day against excellent opponents. But he trashed his MSL group and then crushed Canata convincingly in the PL match against SKT1.

It has to be Flash. Given that he won an OSL and then dominated the pro scene for two or three months, watching him play now must be a huge disappointment.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7971 Posts
October 15 2008 23:31 GMT
#40

LAWL @ Flash 14CC vs Jaedong.

Though I voted Sea. Sea sucks everytime it matters. I'm sorry, and please don't ban me, but Sea doesn't have the nerves to be a great Starcraft gamer. He is just too emotive.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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