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Is it time to phase out Fighting Spirit?

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TL.net Bot TL.net136 Posts October 02 2019 00:25 GMT #1

BLinD-RawR ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts October 02 2019 02:03 GMT #2 Yes It should no longer be used in premiere tournaments at the very least, as much as I hate to use the phrase the map is very "stale" and doesn't do much to improve the current meta at the top level. people are not ready to let go of it on ladder though and they probably never will, it serves its purpose there for being a safe map to learn to play the game.

Qikz United Kingdom12041 Posts October 02 2019 06:22 GMT #3 Yeah, it has no place in tournaments anymore. It was replaced by Circuit Breakers in 2010 just how Fighting Spirit replaced Python in 2008. We need a new standard map.

Akio Finland1838 Posts October 02 2019 08:47 GMT #4 It should be kept as a ladder map at most, but definitely not in tournaments anymore.

meorcmespam 8 Posts October 02 2019 13:21 GMT #5 ladder map yes, tourney no

Liquid`Drone Norway28808 Posts October 02 2019 15:08 GMT #6 kept as a ladder map is good (as long as I can keep vetoing it ) but yeah shouldn't be played in tourneys anymore.

crbox Canada1180 Posts October 02 2019 21:21 GMT #7 I agree with the consensus : ladder yes, tourney no

Shiladie Canada1631 Posts October 03 2019 17:54 GMT #8 Agreed, I'm in favour of removing it from tournies, but keeping some very standard maps like it in the ladder pool is good.

BigFan TLADT24920 Posts October 03 2019 20:21 GMT #9 Yep. Let's do it!

LML Germany1792 Posts October 03 2019 20:51 GMT #10 the bad thing about FS and CB in the ladder pool is that two of my vetoes are immediately ate up right there

mishimaBeef Canada2259 Posts October 04 2019 14:15 GMT #11 imba!! https://tl.net/forum/bw-strategy/551478-efficient-gas-mining

des United States507 Posts October 04 2019 16:17 GMT #12 Given that everyone vetoes it (ok not everyone but everyone who cares enough to comment) why bother keeping it at all. Hard axe.

Bakuryu Germany1065 Posts October 05 2019 16:02 GMT #13 no i never veto it i would like to keep it

Jealous 10333 Posts October 05 2019 19:47 GMT #14 I think it's important to keep (along with FS) as a relatively "vanilla" map, the competitive standard so to speak. It is precisely because the approaches to the map are so well-known and established that I believe it is one of the best maps to measure at least certain aspects of "skill." I'm honestly more curious what the pros think about it. I imagine most are in favor of keeping it because of its longevity and stability, but that's just a guess. 164/164 btw

Piste 6183 Posts October 06 2019 10:56 GMT #15 pro tour no need to keep it, but on ladder definitely yes. It is pretty balanced and less boring than CB. Everyone knows the map well.

kogeT Poland2042 Posts October 07 2019 07:31 GMT #16 I think it makes sense to keep it, what I love about SC most is that you have a variety of maps: some new, meta changing and challening maps, and some old, well analyzed and practiced maps. These two types allow players to battle on different grounds: creativity & flexibility vs preparation & execution. Having 2-3 standard and 2-3 non standard maps makes exactly that. Keep FS!

Pangpootata 1838 Posts October 09 2019 13:57 GMT #17 Time to phase out Fighting Spirit and bring in Neo Fighting Spirit

outscar 2832 Posts October 09 2019 19:44 GMT #18 YES: for ladder. NO: for ASL/KSL or whatever online tournaments.

prosatan Romania8903 Posts October 11 2019 09:57 GMT #19 same as outscar : no for tournaments ! yes for ladder !!! It's my favorite map !

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