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Homework
Profile Joined December 2010
United States283 Posts
September 30 2013 08:20 GMT
#101
The NBA, NHL, NFL do not limit players of a different nationality / residency from playing, why should starcraft?
if the NA players can't keep up with the koreans it's their damn fault and they know it. weaker play should not be excused in our strategy game.
Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
September 30 2013 08:52 GMT
#102
On September 30 2013 17:20 Homework wrote:
The NBA, NHL, NFL do not limit players of a different nationality / residency from playing, why should starcraft?
if the NA players can't keep up with the koreans it's their damn fault and they know it. weaker play should not be excused in our strategy game.

Pretty sure NFL players can't play their games online from another country. This poll isn't just about disallowing other nationalities from playing in other regions, it is also suggesting residency requirement. Which is the same in all sports.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
September 30 2013 09:13 GMT
#103
I could do a big post but eh, I'll keep it simple:

Residency yes, citizenship no.
bakemonoda
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom18 Posts
September 30 2013 09:14 GMT
#104
having it region locked gives better chance to the players living out side of korea

also it defines who is actually the best in the country

and if the koreans do want to move, that will increse the level of skill cap in the country, as they will play on the ladder, since region switching has lag i.e. playing korea server from us

the best matches in sc2 are foreigner vs korean both different races

with players like jaedong and taeja, korean will probably still win in US and EU but there will be more hope

learning is the key to victory
Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 10:03:07
September 30 2013 10:02 GMT
#105
Imo this poll is bad. Putting Residency and citizenship on the same button, and also not allowing to vote for all offline premier leagues destroys the relevance of the outcome.
Die neuen Tempel haben schon Risse - künftige Ruinen - einst wächst Gras auch über diese Stadt - über ihre letzte Schicht
Warheart
Profile Joined June 2012
Italy25 Posts
September 30 2013 11:53 GMT
#106
On September 26 2013 18:15 MuMeise wrote:
It definitly should have residency check. Not citizenship though. Guys like MC living in germany, or ForGG livin in France should be able to participate in WCS EU.

Guys like MVP though who just arrive the day before the live shows should no longer participate or they should actually live in the EU.
I don't like the attitude to play in WCS EU because it's EZ like they say.


amen to that
war is in my heart,death is by my side!
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
September 30 2013 13:26 GMT
#107
Residency would be great!
JtoK
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany232 Posts
September 30 2013 13:49 GMT
#108
I only prefer residency check for every region so that there would only be one server. For example WCS NA only on NA server. That for every region and its fine. Maybe create a new region for everyone or at least a chinese region, because there are so many chinese players atm.
But I think I would watch less matches then, because the regions will be less strong of players. But better to have fair regions with no lag.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
September 30 2013 15:36 GMT
#109
On September 27 2013 02:27 elmoDD wrote:
I won't be watching WCS EU/NA anymore if the Koreans continue to dominate

Same here. LCS is so successful because it's actually region locked. You don't see SK Telecom T1 going through and bulldozing North America's LCS, do you?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
September 30 2013 15:39 GMT
#110
No residecny/citizenship should be needed imo. But make everything offline, every round. Just like past GSLs for foreigners, it should be a commitment.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
September 30 2013 17:12 GMT
#111
I won't waste my time watching a bunch of semi-pro's play, relatively speaking, bad starcraft. NA pros need to improve their game if they want to succeed rather than restricting tournaments to bring the skill level down for them.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
September 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#112
On October 01 2013 00:39 Musicus wrote:
No residecny/citizenship should be needed imo. But make everything offline, every round. Just like past GSLs for foreigners, it should be a commitment.

You don't even have to make everything offline - even if you'd just do that to the qualifiers it would be enough
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
September 30 2013 18:33 GMT
#113
Even if they restrict to residency at this point (which is of course the only reasonable option), the damage has been done. WCS is the loser league of E-Sports. So who cares.
crazyweasel
Profile Joined March 2011
607 Posts
September 30 2013 19:01 GMT
#114
AT least do it for wcs NA. those immigration people are killing tournaments when they choose to deny or delay visas for foreigners.
Petninja
Profile Joined June 2011
United States159 Posts
September 30 2013 19:48 GMT
#115
On September 27 2013 02:27 elmoDD wrote:
I won't be watching WCS EU/NA anymore if the Koreans continue to dominate


I feel the opposite. There are very few foreigners worth following for anything other than their personality, which doesn't get exposed in these tournaments anyway. All the free time I'll have from not having to keep up with western leagues will be amazing!
chuiboy
Profile Joined October 2011
55 Posts
September 30 2013 20:27 GMT
#116
On October 01 2013 00:36 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 02:27 elmoDD wrote:
I won't be watching WCS EU/NA anymore if the Koreans continue to dominate

Same here. LCS is so successful because it's actually region locked. You don't see SK Telecom T1 going through and bulldozing North America's LCS, do you?


False. LCS is successful because LoL is a very popular esport.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
September 30 2013 20:57 GMT
#117
I miss people like Taeja and Hero in GSL. And most of the Koreans playing in NA are not really exciting to watch in my opinion, because they play really by the book standard. It's good play, but not exciting.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 30 2013 21:39 GMT
#118
On October 01 2013 00:36 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 02:27 elmoDD wrote:
I won't be watching WCS EU/NA anymore if the Koreans continue to dominate

Same here. LCS is so successful because it's actually region locked. You don't see SK Telecom T1 going through and bulldozing North America's LCS, do you?


You see Quantic bringing Koreans over to NA and raising the skill level of NA solo queue, which is exactly what would happen with SC2. (and it would be a good thing)
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
September 30 2013 21:50 GMT
#119
Having the more restriction would certainly help the scene in NA/EU. It is very disheartening for players to get crushed by KR "bounty hunters".

However, I can't say that would be a good move overall. As more Koreans definitely mean better games.
Requiem-
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay162 Posts
October 01 2013 01:11 GMT
#120
it should be LCS like, if you live in NA, you play in NA, if you dont live in NA you dont play in NA, as ez as that. If you move to NA(and you are Korean, you play on NA), The pool ofc should be KR>EU>NA.
i think this one is the best.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sup Son
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