• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:03
CET 18:03
KST 02:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies1ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1148 users

So far, has HotS been more entertaining than WoL at the pr…

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
March 01 2013 21:45 GMT
#61
Can't we wait for some Hots tournaments to happen please?
Barleyarley
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom20 Posts
March 02 2013 17:01 GMT
#62
It will be better. There hasn't been nearly enough high stakes games in HOTS for it to even be comparable to a game that had over 2 years of competitive games played on it, even the issues that it had.
JazzNL
Profile Joined March 2012
182 Posts
March 02 2013 18:38 GMT
#63
Why is there a poll for this with close to no HotS tournaments actually having been launched?
Xerxes657
Profile Joined January 2012
United States40 Posts
March 02 2013 19:46 GMT
#64
Much more entertaining than the end of WoL, not sure about earlier matches yet.
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
March 02 2013 20:54 GMT
#65
I have enjoyed HotS games but the final one I saw between Calibur and Gosuuser really put me off.

+ Show Spoiler +
Game 2 in particular was very strange with some very awful play. If a player cannot defend a Swarm Host its sickening to watch wave after wave decimate a base slowly until either GG or Protoss finds a way to kill them. Very low skill. However I have to say the image of the wave of SH and Spine Crawlers moving up a map is so insanely cool. Claustrophobia sets in as Zerg chokes the map to death. Daym. However the third game... ugh.

Protoss 4 base 5 minute game, very boring.

Where is the skill in this matchup? Make units go kill, sit back and shoot Swarm Hosts, fly around with Void Rays and Phoenix picking up drones is better but still a bit meh.


So I am a bit worried for HotS but I gotta say I have had the most fun watching Terran play since around early 2012. Terran feels limitless, you can open so many ways, go either mid game bio or mech, turbo medivac all over the place hitting so much the observer can't find them all, Ravens are actually good now, BC's are still bad but are legit in certain amounts I feel great about Terran.
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Maleta
Profile Joined September 2012
Chile150 Posts
March 02 2013 23:47 GMT
#66
i think that the first HotS GSL its going to be quite awesome and legendary as the first WoL GSL
Forward + Down + Downforward + Forward + Punch (Any) // F + QF + HP/MP/LP.... SHORYUKEN!!!
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
March 04 2013 01:54 GMT
#67
I've been loving it so far, but I've gotta see more games played at the pro level before I can finally decide.
Spread your eggs until they crack!
Thorrissey
Profile Joined February 2011
United States29 Posts
March 04 2013 08:11 GMT
#68
It's still got SO many issues, but it's certainly more micro intensive, which I think is a huge plus.
The Templar with the thorn in his side
KainiT
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria392 Posts
March 04 2013 10:33 GMT
#69
lol @ not enough information to decide if it has been more entertaining SO FAR
With great power comes great responsibility.
iEatWoofers
Profile Joined August 2011
Switzerland108 Posts
March 04 2013 14:59 GMT
#70
Build orders are only cool when they're new. I prefer solid play (scouting and acting accordingly) over just pulling off a one-off build.

I think in two years HotS will be at about the same place as WOL is now. Might even happen faster since players already know SC2 mechanics very well.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 04 2013 17:56 GMT
#71
right now, at least, I'd have to say that HotS is looking increasingly diverse in strategies. Though, I have to say that what I really hope doesn't happen is BO wins. I know we dealt with that in WoL for a year, and I feel that a lot of new (especially casual) viewership will decline if that happens.
User was warned for too many mimes.
PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 22:54:50
March 04 2013 22:54 GMT
#72
Despite ignoring the game's core problems while adding weird, broken copies of Brood War units, Blizzard has managed to make Zerg matchups much, much better than in 2012. They've managed to do it even after leaving in range 5 queens and chain fungals O_o

In WoL, both Terrans and Protoss have to either kill or cripple an opponent that has the potential to expand their economy exponentially in moments, while also possessing the most powerful early-game units and an unbeatable late-game.

In HotS, however, Zergs can still hit 4 bases / 70 drones without any danger, but are forced to use all of the tools at their disposal to crush their opponent before they can amass an unstoppable deathfleet.

"There should be no tying a sharp, hard object to your cock like it has a mechanical arm and hitting it with the object or using your cockring to crack the egg. No cyborg penises allowed. 100% flesh only." - semioldguy
jinzo123
Profile Joined September 2009
27 Posts
March 05 2013 01:30 GMT
#73
who cares they both suck compared the Brood war
Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
March 05 2013 08:20 GMT
#74
IMO WOL has just become really stale, so while I said yes it is just against the staleness of WOL. I'm not sure if it is actually more entertaining or not...but atm it sure is for me.
But at what cost ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
phalanx
Profile Joined November 2011
France43 Posts
March 05 2013 16:51 GMT
#75
On March 05 2013 17:20 Foblos wrote:
IMO WOL has just become really stale, so while I said yes it is just against the staleness of WOL. I'm not sure if it is actually more entertaining or not...but atm it sure is for me.


Maybe one's staleness is due to one's birth, how does sit sound? Why would blzzzard continue to patch WOL if they are preparing for HOTS n the same time? They don't have unlimited HR.
knowledge is like jam, the less you have the more you spread.
Deadlifter
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway68 Posts
March 05 2013 17:38 GMT
#76
IMHO the widow mine is an awful addition to the game. Boring, too strong/strange to deal with. Doesn't create a dynamic that is at all entertaining.
Terkill
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark38 Posts
March 06 2013 16:54 GMT
#77
Only due to the fact that everything is new and exciting. As soon as the game releases, and people realise how the metagame works with various strategies it will be the same.
Not complaining though, there was never anything wrong with WoL streams and shoutcasting.
You're pro or you're noob. That's life
Highcounsel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States132 Posts
March 07 2013 04:34 GMT
#78
My brain is still very stuck in Wol mode, but I'm sure as I watch more I'll really enjoy HoTS, sounds like it will be a roller coaster of balancing and figuring out basically a whole new game like how Wol. I'm quite excited to see how strategies will develop over time, as well to see how Kespa players do now that they are not so far behind in amount of practice.
ZeroSix
Profile Joined March 2011
England54 Posts
March 07 2013 09:32 GMT
#79
right now it not near the level as the balance is so bad it sucks the enjoyment right out of the game.
clwzim
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil65 Posts
March 07 2013 19:43 GMT
#80
terran to op to be funny
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#35
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 485
TKL 315
Liquid`VortiX 131
DivinesiaTV 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1224
Mini 596
Larva 535
Light 357
Soma 342
Snow 163
firebathero 162
ggaemo 143
Rush 129
Aegong 43
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 38
Movie 38
910 27
soO 25
Bale 18
Sacsri 12
Dota 2
syndereN1480
XcaliburYe657
Counter-Strike
adren_tv118
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor198
Other Games
Grubby5561
B2W.Neo1550
FrodaN580
Fuzer 346
Lowko302
hiko291
ceh9284
crisheroes233
ToD116
Mew2King99
QueenE96
nookyyy 72
Trikslyr26
RushiSC16
Organizations
Other Games
WardiTV961
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 28
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV1393
League of Legends
• Nemesis3148
• TFBlade990
Other Games
• Shiphtur70
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.