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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 18 2012 09:38 GMT
#101
If you wanna be the best, play in the best tournament...Stephano can't be called #1 until he gets his sexy butt to Korealand.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
July 18 2012 09:52 GMT
#102
Grrrr...!

Oh, talking about SC2? Then Stephano.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 10:11:56
July 18 2012 10:04 GMT
#103
Stephano because he plays Zerg. If they played the same race, I'd like to think Naniwa, but it'd be really close.

Also, this isn't balance QQ, I'm just stating from a serious non-qq sense. Naniwa is playing statistically the weakest race based on the past year or so of the international and korean pro scenes. As someone mentioned before, that's up to you decide whether its relevant or not. I certainly think it is.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
FLPinapplez
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden2 Posts
July 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#104
I think that if people have time to prepare Stephano loses, cause he is very predictable. And it is kinda stupid how you always know exactly how he is going to play and still people are not able to crush that. TT Naniwa is better imo..
Fuck Yeah
Shadowmire
Profile Joined June 2012
United States59 Posts
July 18 2012 10:15 GMT
#105
Stephano -- he has proven time and time again that he can and will beat any player in the world, and frankly his exhibitions of dominance completely outshine Naniwa. Mind you, I'm not biased against Naniwa; he is probably my second favorite Protoss player after MC, but I think it's absurd to use the GSL as a tool by which to measure whether or not a player is 'the best.' Maybe the best player in the world will never even play in the GSL, and frankly, he (or she!) doesn't have to.

I do hope Stephano spends more time in Korea than he has suggested, though.

P.S. Stephano is my favorite player, so assume bias if you want.
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
July 18 2012 10:18 GMT
#106
Stephano, not even close.
[Silverflame]
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany640 Posts
July 18 2012 10:19 GMT
#107
Naniwa, because he has the potential to be on top for the long run. And to be on top of GSL is way harder as anything else.
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Herro_Korea
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
310 Posts
July 18 2012 10:37 GMT
#108
Nerchio... ? : [
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Reality_Seeker
Profile Joined July 2012
Bulgaria18 Posts
July 18 2012 10:49 GMT
#109
Naniwa imo. Stephano's ZvZ isn't good compared to PvZ and probably rly good terran could take him out 2 so...
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
July 18 2012 10:56 GMT
#110
Naniwa because GSL. Stephano chickened out when he got invited so no contest.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Artifice
Profile Joined May 2010
United States523 Posts
July 18 2012 11:16 GMT
#111
Naniwa's been one map from a GSL semifinal, Stephano's been one plane ticket from entering a code A qualifier. I think the answer is obvious.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
July 18 2012 11:18 GMT
#112
As much as it pains me I would say NaNiwa, but you can't really say it's a fair comparison. Stephano is definitely better in long, 3 day+ length tournaments and I would give NaNiwa the edge purely because he is actually getting to the RO8 of Code S, which is insane.
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 11:24:42
July 18 2012 11:21 GMT
#113
Random ladder-style more luck-based 1-day tournament setting with no planning what-so-ever is very different from the heavily prepration based Code S.

I can't believe so many are unable to understand that.....
(:
Hren
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia86 Posts
July 18 2012 11:25 GMT
#114
It`s really hard to say, since Stephano seems to be way more consistent when there is no time to prepare, but on the other hand Nani did have amazing performance in the most prestigious tournament. For now I`m still leaning somewhat towards Steph.
dBdHellRider
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden63 Posts
July 18 2012 11:45 GMT
#115
NANIWA

or desRow
http://www.twitch.tv/nippletwisterswe
Vexin
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania84 Posts
July 18 2012 11:50 GMT
#116
Naniwa was a beast when he came out and he's improved ten-fold since. I don't know whether he's the best right now but I don't see him stopping until he wins a GSL.
Don't be so humble, you're not that great.
Dysatr
Profile Joined September 2011
South Africa33 Posts
July 18 2012 11:56 GMT
#117
In the +-3 months that naniwa has been playing code s, he has played like 6-8 matches against code s players. and probably won like 65% of them. Which is great.

In that same time stephano has played more than 20 games against code s players, and have won probably the same % of games, mayb more (i'm to lazy to look.)

People say they don't think stephano can prepare for matches, but I think he can. Like he lost to 2 base immortal all ins at dreamhack (wich all zergs lost to, cause it was a new build), and then a few weeks later at nasl he absolutely destroys it in every game. Because he prepared the proper ways to deal with it. Same with MC - Mc beats him at red bull, at nasl stephano comes prepared and beats him.

Stephano's style of play is very solid and therefore he does not have to prepare so much for specific people as other players. He generally dictates a game and forces his oponents to come up with new and creative ways to beat him because if they don't he will win 90% of the time. Does this mean he can't prepare? No, I think it means he is more prepared than other people.

Naniwa is exactly the opposite. He wins buy creating new and effective ways to beat certain opponents. Thats why he deserves his code s spot, because of intellegent and creative enough to find solution.

So in my opinion stephano will destroy peoples ugly faces once he goes to korea and seriously maybe win gsl. but till then naniwa can call himself the best forgeiner, I doubt stepahno minds as long as he is making money.
kwas
Spoonska
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
July 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#118
I voted Naniwa because my personal opinion is GSL results stand out from the results of other tournaments. I fell like a poll like this one will be pretty lopsided though considering how people are today and Stephano just won a tournament on Sunday. People like to always go off the deep end the day or week after.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 18 2012 12:25 GMT
#119
On July 18 2012 20:45 dBdHellRider wrote:
NANIWA

or desRow

lol seems about right
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
July 18 2012 12:27 GMT
#120
I love how there are 2 pro player options.
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
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