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SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
August 11 2011 23:17 GMT
#41
Bah, Hoejja pushed out of the top ten.

Probably deservedly, but still
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
August 11 2011 23:38 GMT
#42
I also think Hoejja should have been there but this is a great PR nonetheless.

Thanks Flamewheel!
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
August 11 2011 23:40 GMT
#43
I like it.

Jaedong, oh Jaedong

</3
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
August 11 2011 23:52 GMT
#44
Bad write-up in my opinion, there is no way jaedong should be 5 and bisu should be lower. Flash, Zero, Hydra, Bisu, Killer, soO, Jaedong.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 12 2011 01:55 GMT
#45
Hmm if it's bad would you like to give your reasoning? I gave mine.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
hi19hi19
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States163 Posts
August 12 2011 02:38 GMT
#46
Want to be in next month's power rank? You can too! Unless you play Protoss

Very depressing for the sons of Aiur this month. Is it the maps recently, a lack of innovation on the part of Korean protosses, or just that everyone else has figured protoss out?

At least we can cheer on Bisu. Yay Bisu...
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
August 12 2011 02:41 GMT
#47
good PR, well argued as always. i KNEW bisu couldn't be number 2!
flash hwaiting! hope he wins this OSL and makes starcraft history
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
August 12 2011 02:50 GMT
#48
I honestly would have put killer above Jaedong, and Bisu above Zero. A good PR altogether though tbh.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
August 12 2011 03:01 GMT
#49
Cool that Flash stays on top despite the wrist. He is so awesome. I feel the critique Jaedong is getting is exagerated: he only lost rock-paper-scissor zvzs (if he had played one game as bad as zeros game vs killer people would have said he should retire). I know Soo has a very good record but I think he sucks, so I would have liked to have him lower. Too many bad zergs on the rank and too few protoss. (Not Flamewheels fault though )

Thanks for the ranking
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
August 12 2011 03:28 GMT
#50
So, why do some progamers get a clan tag, and others don't? I ask this because Killer's name looks a bit ridiculous. Why not mensol for Zero, or shield for bisu? n.die for Jaedong, or by for Flash?

Soo and Soulkey have their tags because there is another Soo and another Soulkey, so that makes perfect sense. But why Killer (or Light for that matter?).
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 12 2011 03:37 GMT
#51
LETA LETA LETA LETA

where are you. How on earth could you not put leta on the PR?
Jaedong and Bisu are kind of high considering how little (or weak) they've played.
☺
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 12 2011 03:51 GMT
#52
On August 12 2011 12:28 Crisium wrote:
So, why do some progamers get a clan tag, and others don't? I ask this because Killer's name looks a bit ridiculous. Why not mensol for Zero, or shield for bisu? n.die for Jaedong, or by for Flash?

Soo and Soulkey have their tags because there is another Soo and another Soulkey, so that makes perfect sense. But why Killer (or Light for that matter?).

Names are manually added then linked. I've simply been too lazy to replace Ever)Z(Killer with just Killer, and the same goes for Light.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
August 12 2011 04:41 GMT
#53
Overall, a solid PR given the lack of games.

I still think Jaehoon needs to be in CBNC, he's been very consistent with his play for the past few months
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 12 2011 04:41 GMT
#54
I'd just like to say that it's really nice that my idea to have a "shoutouts" section became a permanent part of PR.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
August 12 2011 06:06 GMT
#55
Hydra should be higher then both Bisu and Zero . He lost a game against Stats and thats it . He is doing quite well in the OSL geting out of a difficult group .
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 06:39:21
August 12 2011 06:38 GMT
#56
On August 12 2011 15:06 raga4ka wrote:
Hydra should be higher then both Bisu and Zero . He lost a game against Stats and thats it . He is doing quite well in the OSL geting out of a difficult group .


He lost a game when it matters, against an opponent that he should have won. This is only rectified in part (small one) by his victory against a much inferior opponent in a very underwhelming game the next day (Tempest). For the record, his team lost anw, and his loss the first day _could_ have turned the tide around if it was a win instead. And he lost to Flash in OSL as well (not just Stats in SPL Playoffs).

Zero performed better this month (more games, stronger opponent, overall better performance). Bisu is undefeated this month (yes i know his opponents mostly suck, outside of Baby, whose vP is a suspect anw), and has been performing relatively better than Hydra all season (i am aware that he doesnt do well in Indiv league, OSL is entirely his fault and has been cursed for an eternity by people for it, MSL group was... just unfortunate).

So i think that Hydra is not as "powerful" as them at the moment, and it seems Flamewheel agrees

PS: Stork's form being the way it is right now, that OSL group wasnt difficult. The only opponent that he wasnt s'posed to win, he lost to. No surprise there.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 06:52:54
August 12 2011 06:50 GMT
#57
second consecutive month of 6 zergs.... they aren't that good.

edit: and more than half of the guys in the post after are zerg
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 12 2011 07:11 GMT
#58
On August 12 2011 15:06 raga4ka wrote:
Hydra should be higher then both Bisu and Zero . He lost a game against Stats and thats it . He is doing quite well in the OSL geting out of a difficult group .


Don't forget that he also lost to Flash, so it's not "that's it." Of course we don't often think of a loss to Flash the same way as we do other losses, but when we compare how thoroughly Hydra was dominated to the awesome play Zero demonstrated to overcome Flash it is abundantly clear who the better ZvTer is. And regarding the game vs Stats... have you watched the game? Because it was awful. Hydra is normally a consistently dominant ZvPer with strong midgame timings, but every now and again he drops the ball (see also his game against Kal from a couple months back). It's like his timing sense was just off: he was 30 seconds too slow. Both games.

Mechanically Hydra is stronger than Zero and Hydra is a bit more well-rounded, but he doesn't stand out as a better player and he's not "hotter" either, as Zero totally made up for dropping from OGN prelims (on the previous ranking) with his playoffs performance.

The argument about Hydra vs Bisu really comes down to the fact that Bisu had an easy month free ride but showed no flaws whereas Hydra had a fairly difficult month (even if few games were played he had the hardest OSL group) but showed flaws. I don't want to get caught any deeper in that one.

On August 12 2011 12:01 Elroi wrote:
Cool that Flash stays on top despite the wrist. He is so awesome. I feel the critique Jaedong is getting is exagerated: he only lost rock-paper-scissor zvzs (if he had played one game as bad as zeros game vs killer people would have said he should retire). I know Soo has a very good record but I think he sucks, so I would have liked to have him lower. Too many bad zergs on the rank and too few protoss. (Not Flamewheels fault though )

Thanks for the ranking


JD is actually getting a lot of benefit of the doubt right now. This ZvZ problem has been going on for a while, with only 4 wins in his last 12 games. You can always look at games and try to parse them and it's hard to identify anything wrong with what JD is doing, but at this point the sample size is large enough that we can clearly see this isn't the usual 75-80% Zerg killer that we're used to. As I remarked in the old thread, although Jaedong is very good at JvZ, it seems that he is absolutely awful at ZvZ.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
August 12 2011 07:14 GMT
#59
Killer looks a hell of a lot like ZerO
Translator:3
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
August 12 2011 07:15 GMT
#60
Killer's picture is Zero lewl :D

Good read thanks
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
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