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Painbringer
Profile Joined March 2003
Norway446 Posts
November 12 2004 07:32 GMT
#81
if this is such an easy stratt why doesn`t yellow get owned zvt all the time. doesn`t he usually use this kind of build. And boxer had prepared a strat that would force a micro intsnsive game, yellow refused to play boxers game. And got raped, when boxer sees him fast expanding and knows he can win with a bunker rush, should he just stop the rush?!?! And as far as I can understand if he couldn`t have rushed yellow he just would have played normal, and not be at a very bad dissadvantage.

Jesus christ stup blaming boxer for owning yellow.
[CS]Pablo
Profile Joined September 2002
Brazil338 Posts
November 12 2004 07:46 GMT
#82
If ilnp had ever had the chance to go to Korea this wouldn't have happened. He would've teached the Korean zergs that nine-pool is the only viable strat, in any match-up, in any map.
There is a catenoid of idempotents in the coquaternion ring
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10659 Posts
November 12 2004 07:46 GMT
#83
Yellow is a Pansy for being so stubborn.

but Boxer is a pansy too, just look at his face for gods sake.
Im back, in pog form!
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 12 2004 07:47 GMT
#84
On November 12 2004 16:46 [CS]Pablo wrote:
If ilnp had ever had the chance to go to Korea this wouldn't have happened. He would've teached the Korean zergs that nine-pool is the only viable strat, in any match-up, in any map.


I think chojja did this a long time ago.
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Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
November 12 2004 07:58 GMT
#85
Poor viewing.
We are vigilant.
Splinter
Profile Joined July 2003
United States188 Posts
November 12 2004 08:01 GMT
#86
Being up 2-0 he could have afforded to play one or two games without cheesing.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 12 2004 08:32 GMT
#87
Give me a break boxer was lying he didnt practice SOO LONG and hard on a start that every c0 terran fucking knows about -.-
Never Knows Best.
booooo
Profile Joined March 2004
Singapore372 Posts
November 12 2004 08:51 GMT
#88
he timed a strategy that made use of a very small window of opening. Also, the strat cannot really be considered a do or die strategy, the idea was to force yellow to respond to the strat in a certain way. Yellow chose to do his own thing with confidence in his ability to hold off the rush and paid the price
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ajian
Profile Joined February 2004
China56 Posts
November 12 2004 08:58 GMT
#89
if anyone think rush is a fault ,then he can try rushing yellow

It's boxer,he always know what yellow is thinking
Strength Pride Discipline
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
November 12 2004 08:59 GMT
#90
The fanboys would defend boxer even if every single game from now on of his was based on cheese, "Genious terran", "Unrivaled strategems" would be all you get.

Yet if you ask these fans which games they would rather see if they had to choose one of the two: cheesefests lasting 5-8 minutes each or longer games lasting 20-30 mins, most of them would choose the latter.

If Yellow 6 pooled boxer three games in a row and won I'd be fucking pissed aswell and lose respect for Yellow.

Give the fans what they want, the survival of Starcraft depends on games of entertaining value, not these three pieces of garbage.
We decide our own destiny
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 12 2004 09:05 GMT
#91
Yellow was so predictable you could set your watch to him. He should've been able to defend.
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DevilZbOy
Profile Joined November 2004
United States36 Posts
November 12 2004 09:35 GMT
#92
slaughter)bio, you sound like a chobe...sad for saying what u did T_T;
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
November 12 2004 09:46 GMT
#93
On November 12 2004 13:22 Tien wrote:
Im pissed at boxer for turning this fantastic rivalry based on good straight up games in the pass, into a fucking cheese rush.

The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests

Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games.


it would have been a fantastic series if yellow can defend those rushes. blame yellow.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 12 2004 10:23 GMT
#94
On November 12 2004 18:35 DevilZbOy wrote:
slaughter)bio, you sound like a chobe...sad for saying what u did T_T;


What dose my Starcraft skill have to do with what boxer dose in a game? Nothing so lets cut the low level jabs to try to make your lil hero boxer seem like hes just awesome for doing bunk rush 3x.
Never Knows Best.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
November 12 2004 10:41 GMT
#95
On November 12 2004 07:22 Legionnaire wrote:
It was reach not nal_ra, and the games were entertaining as the builds were all different.

Boxer on the other hand did the same thing 3 times in a row giving him the title of making the shittest ever semi finals on OGN.

I'm sure OGN are annoyed.

Now the reason for the Poll is, i can't remember, since the beginning of time, long before the dinosaurs roamed the world, of there ever being a big match where i've told people its not worth watching. Sure often there is a game or two that you tell them to skip. Often its still fun to see what devious things happened, but this one is in a super pansy league of its own.

No offence, but I think you'll never be able to play gosu like them if you still have this kind of thought. The 1st concern is victory, and even if the strat is just a cheese, Yellow still deserved to lose cos he couldn't fight against it.
If you think it's unfair, then STOP PLAYING STARCRAFT!
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DevilZbOy
Profile Joined November 2004
United States36 Posts
November 12 2004 10:44 GMT
#96
all you need to understand Slaughter)biO is that, Boxer is the greatest player EVER in Starcraft Broodwar so dont diss him t('-'t) he is one of a kind. If he can beat Yellow 3 times by doing the samething, whos fault is that? i wouldnt blame Boxer, only one to blame here is yellow for not changing his style of play. Im sure most people would agree that, if you could beat someone 3 times in a row by doing the samething, why not keep doing it? esp at there level, let the Terran Emperor return ok? Its not his fault he outsmarted Yellow ^^
Painbringer
Profile Joined March 2003
Norway446 Posts
November 12 2004 10:53 GMT
#97
On November 12 2004 17:59 Tien wrote:
If Yellow 6 pooled boxer three games in a row and won I'd be fucking pissed aswell and lose respect for Yellow.


first of all I think Boxer would have been able to defend that rush 1 or 2 times at least. And if not I would have been disapointed in BOXER for not beeing able to stop such an easy strat.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 11:33:15
November 12 2004 11:24 GMT
#98
On November 12 2004 19:44 DevilZbOy wrote:
all you need to understand Slaughter)biO is that, Boxer is the greatest player EVER in Starcraft Broodwar so dont diss him t('-'t) he is one of a kind. If he can beat Yellow 3 times by doing the samething, whos fault is that? i wouldnt blame Boxer, only one to blame here is yellow for not changing his style of play. Im sure most people would agree that, if you could beat someone 3 times in a row by doing the samething, why not keep doing it? esp at there level, let the Terran Emperor return ok? Its not his fault he outsmarted Yellow ^^


just because hes a bw legend dosent mean hes prone to not being a dick once in a while. You give him this higher status that really is annoying.
Never Knows Best.
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
November 12 2004 11:48 GMT
#99
On November 12 2004 14:10 Honk2000 wrote:
what if silent_control gamed like that vs yellow? would everybody also call him a strategic genius?
This guy gets it. Although I don't think Yellow would have continued to play like that vs Silent_Control
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 12:22:51
November 12 2004 12:08 GMT
#100
I challenge everyone who voted yes to a BO3 !!!

yes i'll probably lose them all but it doesn't matter >_>

it really is yellow's fault for not switching strats... atleast on the third match, he even scouted it -_-

i'm not hailing this as some sort of strategic geniusery by boxer... its just him taking advantage of a weakness in yellow's build (after all no strats are 100% failsafe) and yellow refusing to switch even when it was apparent it wouldn't work...


EDIT: i am also fucking sick of posts all over the forum that say boxer sucks boxer should've done it "for the entertainment, for the fans, for the good of SC" and "do you want all games to be 10 minutes long and full of 'cheese' ?" i won't mention any names to hopefully avoid flames but thats a realy fucking stupid opinion... IMO >_>

i mean guess fucking what, face the reality, boxer KNOWS he is at a much higher advantage doing an 8rax build bringing the focus into early game than if he were to play a "straight - out" match of SC that would force him to macro more against YellOw, someone who's on fire lately. This isn't even a choice between boxer humiliating yellow (which i don't even think it was humiliating) by doing 3 rushes in a row out of spite instead of playing a prolonged game for no reason at all except to please some random "fans", where he would PROBABLY LOSE. get that through your heads -_-
and a big to those that say boxer is going to kill SC because of this or w/e....

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