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Jansports
Profile Joined November 2004
United States80 Posts
November 12 2004 04:24 GMT
#61
BoxeR is Not a pansy for such a wealth of reasons Im unsure where to start.

First: I will grant first game retardation, Boxer was Extremly lucky in positions and Yellows Horrible Scouting. Game two I beleive Yellow mad a bad mistake. He scouted wrong and now its 50/50 whether Boxer can efectivly rush him out again. The map allready favors terran over zerg and this Should have put yellow on conservative mode, IE 9 Pool over 12 Hat. He tests the waters though to see how hell bent on Cheesing boxer is and he finds out Boxer will stop at nothing to Cheese for his Victory. Game three Yellow Scouted Correctly STILL knowing close spots again terran favored map and BoxeR showing Bunk Rush Twice(BRT for short?) Yellow either has a tumor infecting the logical part of his brain or is a machine programmed to 12 Hat all day long, or he himself(like boxer) refuses to try any new strat. And it costs him the game

Second: Boxer has some Sexy SVC Micro I must give him the props. This BO is dangerous 8 Rax could be Murder again 9 pool sunk expo because your econ will drop behind and Lurk Ling could start to be a problem, Theory but not far off, Try Bunk rushing(with or without Boxers timing and micro) against 9 Pool to Sunk(s) it just makes you cry! POINT BEING: Boxer Was not using some sortf of new magic build that makes terran win for free, nor was he hacking, I also did not hear him shouting taunts and pelvic thrusts at yellow for losing. He used a strat that has strengths and weaknesses, and its stregths preyed on Yellows weaknesses.

Third: If you're upset because Yellow lost, Be Upset at Yellow! not Boxer. Yellow ATE the same Rush over and over and over Doing incresingly worse against it each game (He lived the longest game 1) Blame his Lack of a learning curve! As a Progamer his JOB is to not lose, which he did not do Im sure someone in charge of something is excedingly pissed at him right now.

Fourth: Its a Progame! I dont think I'd call anyone in any progame a pansy ever, they are better then me, I am not bitter I can improve my skills like they do only less fast because I have other responsibiltys. It would be nice if my occupation was progamer Im sure within a Month the amount of practice would greatly up my skill level.

Lastly: Cheese is a part of the game. They say survival favors the strong but this is not completly true, Survival favors the Fit! and if you are weaker but cunning enough to overcome someone stronger then you then you deserve your victory not Bad Manner Polls
I play P ?!
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 12 2004 04:28 GMT
#62
Since Boxer beat Yellow without breaking much of a sweat in the challenge league finals leading up to this osl I don't think he have to prove anything at all.

He could have played at least one straight game for entertainment, tho
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Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
November 12 2004 04:30 GMT
#63
I think the poll would be better if said:

Which games do you enjoy watching more?

Cheesefests
Straight up games

I think it is important to please the fans. Without the fans this game wouldnt exist. Saying "FU, im doing this for money" to the fans will only make them turn away from the game.
We decide our own destiny
HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
November 12 2004 04:32 GMT
#64
On November 12 2004 13:22 Tien wrote:
Im pissed at boxer for turning this fantastic rivalry based on good straight up games in the pass, into a fucking cheese rush.

The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests

Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games.


I define a good straightup game as two players starting with a nexus, cc or hatchery and 4 workers.

The reason people watch starcraft is because the game has many different strategies that can be used and it takes lots of skill to execute them well.

Why are you disgusted?
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
November 12 2004 04:41 GMT
#65
On November 12 2004 08:32 Legionnaire wrote:
I wanted boxer to win, my only disappointment was with the patheticness of the games.
A fuckin men. There's a lot of people on this site that simply do not fuckin' understand that today.
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Geval
Profile Joined September 2004
788 Posts
November 12 2004 04:45 GMT
#66
On November 12 2004 10:25 ChApFoU wrote:
at least now we are sure OGN is not rigged coz they must have been pissed by what they saw :D

Im not sure about that. Owning Yellow in record timming might atract a lot of attention
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Jansports
Profile Joined November 2004
United States80 Posts
November 12 2004 04:53 GMT
#67
On November 12 2004 13:32 HowitZer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2004 13:22 Tien wrote:
Im pissed at boxer for turning this fantastic rivalry based on good straight up games in the pass, into a fucking cheese rush.

The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests

Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games.


I define a good straightup game as two players starting with a nexus, cc or hatchery and 4 workers.

The reason people watch starcraft is because the game has many different strategies that can be used and it takes lots of skill to execute them well.

Why are you disgusted?


100% Agree
I play P ?!
kuwakJai
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Thailand198 Posts
November 12 2004 05:00 GMT
#68
On November 12 2004 13:22 Tien wrote:
Im pissed at boxer for turning this fantastic rivalry based on good straight up games in the pass, into a fucking cheese rush.

The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests

Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games.


hmm....
do you seriously think that boxer is thinking to himself..... gee, i wonder if this will be good for our fantastic rivalry.....

straight up games, this is as straight up as it can get. if u ask me all the definition of straight up games if getting fucking boring. sc needs something like this. and who else better to deliver it.
boxer is a legend. at this point he has nothing else more to prove except that he can win. everything else, he's already proved time and time again...
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Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 05:01:22
November 12 2004 05:00 GMT
#69
On November 12 2004 13:32 HowitZer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2004 13:22 Tien wrote:
Im pissed at boxer for turning this fantastic rivalry based on good straight up games in the pass, into a fucking cheese rush.

The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests

Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games.


I define a good straightup game as two players starting with a nexus, cc or hatchery and 4 workers.


slightly modified:
I define a good straightup game as two players starting with a nexus, cc or hatchery and ovie, 50 minerals, and 4 workers on a legit map.

kekeke >_>

and i voted No of course... boxer is not a pansy ~_~
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LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
November 12 2004 05:03 GMT
#70
i want if yellow is fucking pissed about it =o
All Those beneath an angry star
HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
November 12 2004 05:08 GMT
#71
On November 12 2004 13:41 hasuwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2004 08:32 Legionnaire wrote:
I wanted boxer to win, my only disappointment was with the patheticness of the games.
A fuckin men. There's a lot of people on this site that simply do not fuckin' understand that today.


There is a difference of opinion between the two sides that will not go away. Some people wanted action packed games with drops, flanks, lots of expos and big battles. As long as they both start from equal terms I will be interested in any outcome from that point on. In this case I am intrigued at how the outcomes happened and not dissappointed that I didn't get to see any of the stuff I mentioned before. So I do understand your point of view, but I don't feel the same way.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
S.Unclean
Profile Joined February 2003
Colombia331 Posts
November 12 2004 05:09 GMT
#72
All you used to hate Silent_Control for doing things less "cheesy" than this 3x bunk rush.
Geval
Profile Joined September 2004
788 Posts
November 12 2004 05:10 GMT
#73
On November 12 2004 14:00 kuwakJai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2004 13:22 Tien wrote:
Im pissed at boxer for turning this fantastic rivalry based on good straight up games in the pass, into a fucking cheese rush.

The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests

Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games.


hmm....
do you seriously think that boxer is thinking to himself..... gee, i wonder if this will be good for our fantastic rivalry.....

straight up games, this is as straight up as it can get. if u ask me all the definition of straight up games if getting fucking boring. sc needs something like this. and who else better to deliver it.
boxer is a legend. at this point he has nothing else more to prove except that he can win. everything else, he's already proved time and time again...

Agreed
I though Boxer has proved everything he could, but I was wrong. Now he did (beating Yellow in record the time) and I wonder if Im not wrong again.
Boxer for king...
... nvm I forgot he's already an emperor
On November 12 2004 14:03 LetMeBeWithYou wrote:
i want if yellow is fucking pissed about it =o

He's probably not pissed off at Boxer alhough he should be pissed of at himself. He knew who was better today.
WOW cant believe LT gave me BETA KEY thx thx thx thx thx
DevilZbOy
Profile Joined November 2004
United States36 Posts
November 12 2004 05:32 GMT
#74
Boxer is a LEGEND thats all that needs to be said. He is like the Matrix of StarCraft!~
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 12 2004 06:40 GMT
#75
Yeah, 1024- I'm sure this is the most SERIOUS and SCIENTIFIC poll LEg ever has created.
It's not like some ppl just want to lose a bit of their disappointment over games that they had been longing for years.
GOGO ARGUE!
11 years and counting- TL #680
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 12 2004 06:41 GMT
#76
At least we can be almost sure that the won't be another 3 cheesegames in the final (even though the rape will be similar, poor boxer :/ )
11 years and counting- TL #680
kCiNNiCk
Profile Joined September 2004
United Kingdom313 Posts
November 12 2004 06:55 GMT
#77
Pretty pathetic...I was looking forward to all of these, so was everyone else. The fact he can cheese all 3 games and be a n00b sending 2 marines and 5 scv's is just pathetic.

It also shows that BW needs to have a new patch bringing SCV health down from 60 to 50, or maybe 40. Dissapointed...
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 12 2004 07:05 GMT
#78
It's Yellow's fault to losing to such a low strat.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 12 2004 07:11 GMT
#79
On November 12 2004 13:28 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Since Boxer beat Yellow without breaking much of a sweat in the challenge league finals leading up to this osl I don't think he have to prove anything at all.

He could have played at least one straight game for entertainment, tho


yellow beat boxer pretty bad sometime in the near past, it was on luna but i dont remember what it was for
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likeboxer
Profile Joined December 2003
Korea (South)465 Posts
November 12 2004 07:11 GMT
#80
stupid poll. who made this?
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