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On November 12 2004 21:08 Locked wrote:I challenge everyone who voted yes to a BO3 !!! yes i'll probably lose them all but it doesn't matter >_> it really is yellow's fault for not switching strats... atleast on the third match, he even scouted it -_- i'm not hailing this as some sort of strategic geniusery by boxer... its just him taking advantage of a weakness in yellow's build (after all no strats are 100% failsafe) and yellow refusing to switch even when it was apparent it wouldn't work... EDIT: i am also fucking sick of posts all over the forum that say boxer sucks boxer should've done it "for the entertainment, for the fans, for the good of SC" and "do you want all games to be 10 minutes long and full of 'cheese' ?" i won't mention any names to hopefully avoid flames but thats a realy fucking stupid opinion... IMO >_> i mean guess fucking what, face the reality, boxer KNOWS he is at a much higher advantage doing an 8rax build bringing the focus into early game than if he were to play a "straight - out" match of SC that would force him to macro more against YellOw, someone who's on fire lately. This isn't even a choice between boxer humiliating yellow (which i don't even think it was humiliating) by doing 3 rushes in a row out of spite instead of playing a prolonged game for no reason at all except to please some random "fans", where he would PROBABLY LOSE. get that through your heads -_- and a big  to those that say boxer is going to kill SC because of this or w/e.... [/rant] 
I think he did not kill but enchnce starcraft by another great bo which will bring more diversity to the game.
BWT. Boxer has a right to kill sc cuz he creates it. I and probably many other ppl would not go to this forum if boxer would retired.
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Boxer does not play Broodwar for your entertainment.
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Doing some shit in a computer game for 8+ minutes?! can stir discussions and controversies for like what, weeks and months? Now that's truly art! If there's no boxer, no one would have used dropships the way it's being used now (or before lol).
Just got to face the facts that bunkers or should it be 8rax, will now be used in ways it hasn't been used before.
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Legionnaire ur in no position to judge him ! U are a nobody and he is the Emperor , most popular progamer in korea , most popular gamer of all time , winner of countless tournaments wich includes two StarLeagues ! Ban me , kick me , i dont care but no matter what Boxer did or will do from now on is great ! To win a OSL semi-final in 15 minutes against Yellow is fantastic and everybody talks about it so it shocked the worldwide broodwar community again with his game ! Any Terran player is using what Boxer invented with small personal adjustments ! He is a gaming God end of story ! Nice poll by the way ! U really are sucky-noobish-lame gamers with no respect for the work of other people ! By the way Legionnaire when u come up with some new broodwar strat or win anything mail me so i can kill myself !
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Well I kinda agree that if that build is perfect, he wouldn't not use it.
But there are too many Boxer fans here who think it's okay just because Boxer won :O
Well yeah Yellow lost and Boxer won. That doesn't change.
But the fact that this was the worst OGN Semifinals in whole history doesn't change either. 
July, probably the best ZvT ever in world lost to that build 5 times in a row at practice games. 
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i think it was just a strategy
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On November 12 2004 23:58 DoubleStormIII wrote:But the fact that this was the worst OGN Semifinals in whole history doesn't change either.
Well, I think everyone will pretty much agree with that. Doesn't change the fact that this poll is a complete joke, though.
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boxer might be a pansy but he's a good starcraft player
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On November 12 2004 19:41 mrdx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2004 07:22 Legionnaire wrote:
It was reach not nal_ra, and the games were entertaining as the builds were all different.
Boxer on the other hand did the same thing 3 times in a row giving him the title of making the shittest ever semi finals on OGN.
I'm sure OGN are annoyed.
Now the reason for the Poll is, i can't remember, since the beginning of time, long before the dinosaurs roamed the world, of there ever being a big match where i've told people its not worth watching. Sure often there is a game or two that you tell them to skip. Often its still fun to see what devious things happened, but this one is in a super pansy league of its own. No offence, but I think you'll never be able to play gosu like them if you still have this kind of thought. The 1st concern is victory, and even if the strat is just a cheese, Yellow still deserved to lose cos he couldn't fight against it. If you think it's unfair, then STOP PLAYING STARCRAFT!
yeah why not. I think some people will lost their interest in SC after this match (read yellow's side of the story)
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why boxer is pansy?
of course he is not-he just played awesome and that is all.
very good job ,lim u rock
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On November 12 2004 22:55 Yautja wrote:
Legionnaire ur in no position to judge him ! U are a nobody and he is the Emperor , most popular progamer in korea , most popular gamer of all time , winner of countless tournaments wich includes two StarLeagues ! Ban me , kick me , i dont care but no matter what Boxer did or will do from now on is great ! To win a OSL semi-final in 15 minutes against Yellow is fantastic and everybody talks about it so it shocked the worldwide broodwar community again with his game ! Any Terran player is using what Boxer invented with small personal adjustments ! He is a gaming God end of story ! Nice poll by the way ! U really are sucky-noobish-lame gamers with no respect for the work of other people ! By the way Legionnaire when u come up with some new broodwar strat or win anything mail me so i can kill myself !
- Yes i am, just as you are in a position to defend him.
- I dont abuse my admin powers, you are entitled to your opinions why would i care? I ban on merit not on opinions.
- I agree boxer is awesome.
- Yes it is a nice poll, i actually think its the best one ever made for this forum? why? because people are actually commenting on it (1/5th of users) 2 polls ago, it was never used and thus i am hoping it will continue on into the next few polls. Contraversy creates strife, strife is the breeding ground of invention, thus my poll is the saviour of this site.. uhh.. yeah...:S hee hee
I won a game vs a computer today, so whats your address, i expect to see your name in the obituary soon ^_^
Next poll will be up tommorrow, i'll let this one do its work until then, it will be the same as the previous one but for the finalists.
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i know that he did it to win, but I was very dissapointed with the games. I expected to see a raging back and forth battle between the two and the boxer just cheesed yellow to death.... all 3 games t.t O well yellow will get his big win some day :/
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He should do whatever he can to win when it is his work. If it was your money on the line, all of you would have doen the same. If not your pretty damn stupid
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I really hate boxer...why...how....did he beat yellow -_- very disapointed all games so short...i would still be pretty happy if they were reasonable games...but all bunker rushes -_-a
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pansy
1. Used as a disparaging term for a man or boy who is considered effeminate.
2. Used as a disparaging term for a homosexual man.
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Im sorry man ! I overreacted ! Ur right , but i was very pissed because of the poll and what people say about him and i let it off on you ! I wanted so bad a Boxer win that i looked past the way he won to the victory itself ! 5 awesome games would have been a lot nicer ! I believe Yellow has his part of the fault and that Boxer did what he believed will bring the much wanted win !
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hm basically it wasn`t nice to watch but u need BIG BALLS to rush the best zerg in the world 3 times in a row like this. perhaps we should ask ourselves if yellow deserved to proceed to the final with this performance. boxer=micro god!
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On November 12 2004 23:58 DoubleStormIII wrote:Well yeah Yellow lost and Boxer won. That doesn't change. But the fact that this was the worst OGN Semifinals in whole history doesn't change either.
can anyone explain how that is boxer's fault.... for winning? instead of yellow for not defending? and if it is not yellow's fault because its imbalanced thats still not boxer's fault for abusing imbalance to win
just one person plz explain that -_-
i mean if this is the worst OGN semifinals ever why is it boxer's fault? i actually thought it was pretty cool he managed to beat yellow, probably the best zerg evar (whom i like a lot), in like 15 minutes 3-0 at a major semifinal bo5.
plz stfu about how professional SC is an entertainment business and it will die because boxer is winning with imbalanced strats so he should suck it up and lose
EDIT: i'm not attacking doublestorm, just pointing out a statement from one of his paragraphs, i have no idea what dsIII thinks about it as he didn't state an opinion etc.
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