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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 21 2010 06:30 GMT
#501
Ya, if JD can just crush Effort we will have 2 BoX's between them within a week. How epic is that?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 21 2010 06:36 GMT
#502
As much as I hate to admit it, I think Flash deserves #1 next month unless something happens. Mostly because he has a slightly better record than JD.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 21 2010 06:37 GMT
#503
On August 21 2010 15:30 Holgerius wrote:
Ya, if JD can just crush Effort we will have 2 BoX's between them within a week. How epic is that?

Based off of previous finals, one of them will out-mindgame the other and crush them.

So, while it is epic, the games will probably suck.
Liquipedia
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 21 2010 06:43 GMT
#504
On August 21 2010 15:36 Lightwip wrote:
As much as I hate to admit it, I think Flash deserves #1 next month unless something happens. Mostly because he has a slightly better record than JD.

The only reason Flash fell down is that he looked flaky in TvTs, and now his August has been a tour de force of TvT.

That said, it's rather pointless to compare Flash and Jaedong right now, given what's yet to come this month...
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 21 2010 06:47 GMT
#505
On August 21 2010 15:36 Lightwip wrote:
As much as I hate to admit it, I think Flash deserves #1 next month unless something happens. Mostly because he has a slightly better record than JD.


#1 is completely up for grabs until MSL finals is over.
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
August 21 2010 06:47 GMT
#506
On August 21 2010 15:36 Lightwip wrote:
As much as I hate to admit it, I think Flash deserves #1 next month unless something happens. Mostly because he has a slightly better record than JD.


idk man the msl finals might have something to do with who gets number 1 just a hunch
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 06:51:48
August 21 2010 06:50 GMT
#507
I already posted this in the MSL Semi thread, but with much more nerdrage because I was so disappointed by Light's performance. So here a cooled down version:

I cannot believe the stupidity of JDs opponents. Every ZvP he goes for Ling runby and every ZvP Tosses are too stupid to prepare. 90% of his games JD vs. P he does it and literally ALWAYS succeeds. I don't understand the Toss logic but has to be something like: This time he wont go for it again, he already did it the last 7 ZvPs so I am safe. False logic. But as long as it works, I see no reason to criticize Jaedong for doing it. His opponents try to cut edges by going light on defense and he punishes them.

Speaking of Light: In ZvT it happens not THAT often, but still more than often enough. Why don't Terrans just build a Bunker. These two games of Light were just so disappointing.

Yes, sure, 100 minerals are not free, but on the other hand: What is the alternative? Lose everytime JD makes Lings? Yes, and it sounds not good to me, so just make the Bunker or do a better job scouting, especially on such a Terran favored map. Getting linged on the Zerg graveyard that Polaris Rhapsody is two times in a row is just beyond me.

But again, even if it was a total all-in there is no reason to blame Jaedong for it. The maps were so incredibly Terran favored and I even liquibetted Light because of them. Beating a Terran on these imbalanced maps is an incredible achievement, JD really deserves to advance and at least that ensures an epic final. I hope Flash is not too dumb to make a Bunker.

Speaking of Flash: Man he is on a roll, too. Deciding who of them will be #1 this month is pretty easy. Whoever wins Grand Final is #1, I don't think there can be an argument about that
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 21 2010 06:55 GMT
#508
Considering how JD played against Light I think Flash will win if he can just get his maphacks going. Mindgames will be JD's strongest weapon, I doubt he can take 3 completely standard games vs Flash with the current map-pool. There's probably going to be a nice mix of early aggression and eco-cheese. If Flash can read him properly he'll take it.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 21 2010 07:00 GMT
#509
On August 21 2010 15:50 Fenrax wrote:
I cannot believe the stupidity of JDs opponents. Every ZvP he goes for Ling runby and every ZvP Tosses are too stupid to prepare. 90% of his games JD vs. P he does it and literally ALWAYS succeeds. I don't understand the Toss logic but has to be something like: This time he wont go for it again, he already did it the last 7 ZvPs so I am safe. False logic. But as long as it works, I see no reason to criticize Jaedong for doing it. His opponents try to cut edges by going light on defense and he punishes them.

At least in TvZ, the terran has a chance to recover from a non-greedy opening against Jaedong by playing perfectly. A protoss player's only hope against Jaedong is to cut every corner, hope it's one of those 10% games were he doesn't do a runby, and count on JD to make at least one huge mid-game blunder. (Unless the protoss is Bisu or Stork and thereby wins against JD anyway.)
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 07:00:17
August 21 2010 07:00 GMT
#510
On August 21 2010 15:55 Holgerius wrote:
Considering how JD played against Light I think Flash will win if he can just get his maphacks going. Mindgames will be JD's strongest weapon, I doubt he can take 3 completely standard games vs Flash with the current map-pool. There's probably going to be a nice mix of early aggression and eco-cheese. If Flash can read him properly he'll take it.

I'm waiting for Jaedong to bust out the drone scout --> 4-hatch-before-pool build against Flash's SCV scout --> CC-before-rax build.

And then another epic Crazy Zerg vs. Bio match on Odd-Eye <3
My strategy is to fork people.
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
August 21 2010 07:02 GMT
#511
If FlaSh goes bionic, Jaedong can take straight up games from him, the problem is the new-ish bio into mech play, and FlaSh does it better then everyone else. As a Terran player, I want Jaedong to win, just because I know that he's just as skilled as FlaSh, but because of the inherent TINY advantage Terran has with winning consistently, and the current mappool, everyone seems to think that FlaSh is better. If Jaedong wins, it'll shut people up, and he'll tie my favourite player for GOAT, NaDa.
HitEmUp
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 07:51:11
August 21 2010 07:26 GMT
#512
Lol at the people making predictions for next month, as a few have said above it's all about the MSL finals.

I think Flash is 16-3 this month and jaedong is 13-5* (edit, I miss counted) in non-exhibition play.

As always I'm hoping for an epic MSL finals, it wont happen though, it never does. One player will dominate the other.
SaikOuLighT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada742 Posts
August 21 2010 07:43 GMT
#513
I really hope the finals are not as one sided as they usually are. That said, whoever wins should be #1 no questions asked imo
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 21 2010 07:48 GMT
#514
Not really. If JD wins a close 3-2 series but gets knocked out of OSL (0% chance of happening though XD) while Flash wins in WCG and advances in OSL I would have him at #1.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
August 21 2010 08:45 GMT
#515
On August 21 2010 16:48 Holgerius wrote:
Not really. If JD wins a close 3-2 series but gets knocked out of OSL (0% chance of happening though XD) while Flash wins in WCG and advances in OSL I would have him at #1.


You can't really take WCG finals into account at all since it literally means nothing, and they have 1 day to prepare. Agree with the rest though, and the same is true the other way around as well of course

Also, Jaedong rolfraped Effort without practice :D
Didn't see the start of the games though so I don't know if he got any good BO advantages.
BobbYt3hBobbY
Profile Joined December 2008
256 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 08:48:12
August 21 2010 08:47 GMT
#516
On August 21 2010 17:45 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 16:48 Holgerius wrote:
Not really. If JD wins a close 3-2 series but gets knocked out of OSL (0% chance of happening though XD) while Flash wins in WCG and advances in OSL I would have him at #1.


You can't really take WCG finals into account at all since it literally means nothing, and they have 1 day to prepare. Agree with the rest though, and the same is true the other way around as well of course

Also, Jaedong rolfraped Effort without practice :D
Didn't see the start of the games though so I don't know if he got any good BO advantages.


He did get 12hatch vs 12pool in the first game. But the second was 12hatch vs 12hatch i believe.
Also agreed on the WCG finals part. (Jaedongs 5pool vs Storks 2 proxy gates comes to mind)
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 21 2010 08:49 GMT
#517
Ahahahahahaha, it must suck so hard to be a fan of any player who isn't JD or Flash right now. XD 2 finals secured now, and both are 1-0 in their respective OSL series. Dual bonjwas ftw!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 21 2010 09:17 GMT
#518
On August 21 2010 17:49 Holgerius wrote:
Ahahahahahaha, it must suck so hard to be a fan of any player who isn't JD or Flash right now. XD 2 finals secured now, and both are 1-0 in their respective OSL series. Dual bonjwas ftw!


You can add protoss to that list. Has there ever been a worse time for that race? There is no one who is good enough to wins off the top T or Z players and even the "future generation" players don't look promising (except snow, but he sucks in two matchups right now).
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 21 2010 09:19 GMT
#519
On August 21 2010 16:48 Holgerius wrote:
Not really. If JD wins a close 3-2 series but gets knocked out of OSL (0% chance of happening though XD) while Flash wins in WCG and advances in OSL I would have him at #1.


You do know though that the OSL is like a week after the MSL or something so the OSL would go into next months rankings not this month. MSL will be the deciding factor for #1.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 21 2010 09:28 GMT
#520
On August 21 2010 18:19 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 16:48 Holgerius wrote:
Not really. If JD wins a close 3-2 series but gets knocked out of OSL (0% chance of happening though XD) while Flash wins in WCG and advances in OSL I would have him at #1.


You do know though that the OSL is like a week after the MSL or something so the OSL would go into next months rankings not this month. MSL will be the deciding factor for #1.

I'm talking about the Ro8.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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