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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
August 04 2010 18:08 GMT
#201
Cmon be nice.

Anyway, from Flash's latest interview:
- The proleague grand finals are now right in front of you.
▲ In terms of my condition, I’m totally, absolutely at my tip-top shape. [t/n: he actually said it like this lol] I rested as much as I needed, too. It’s not just me but my entire team is in a situation where they can focus solely on the finals. Though we don’t have any momentum to ride on at the moment, we’ve been working on staying in good condition daily. It’ll be a battle between momentum and condition. Though it’s hard to anticipate who will win, I want to say that all of us earnestly desire this victory.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 04 2010 18:14 GMT
#202
Yeah Flash is looking invincible. Doesn't change how bad Hyuk is against Terran. Which is really bad.
Jaedong
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 04 2010 18:32 GMT
#203
Combine Hyuk's level of awful with Dreamliner's level of ZvT balance and it turns out Flash just dominated an average zerg!
Remember Violet.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 04 2010 18:45 GMT
#204
He lost before the fast muta imbalance of the map came into play. But I don't think this game will be so relevant anyway since it's only the 4th.
Jaedong
plan3t
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada75 Posts
August 04 2010 18:46 GMT
#205
Hyuk has a 34% winrate against Terran.
Flash has a 70% winrate against Zerg.

OH WHAT FLASH BEAT HYUK OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK OH WOW GUYS PUT HIM NUMBER ONE IN PR HE BEAT MOTHERFUCKING HYUK OH MY GOD CALL THE PRESS JESUS STARCRAFT IS FINISHED FLASH HAS SOLVED THE GAME STOP EVERYTHING HOLY SHIT IT'S OVER HYUK LOST CHRIST WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THIS GAME JUST FUCK IT JUST GIVE FLASH ALL TEN SPOTS ON PR
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 18:51:42
August 04 2010 18:51 GMT
#206
Dreamliner's imbaness had nothing to do in today's game


same builds on say... any map with 30 secs rush distance and it's EXACTLY the same outcome


dreamliner gets imba once mutas are out, it's not imba at the start of the game...
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 04 2010 19:18 GMT
#207
People are thinking too much about last night's games in terms of PR positions. Last night told us nothing. Hyuk vs Flash ZvT? Hydra vs Jaedong ZvZ? Were we ever expecting anything other than Flash and Jaedong raping their opponents?

The upcoming MSL games are going to be the real test. Flash is facing off with one of the few Terrans to have a winning record against him right at the time when people are questioning Flash's TvT ability. Jaedong is facing off against one of the strongest TvZ players in the biz.

The interesting stuff is yet to come.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
August 04 2010 19:20 GMT
#208
On August 05 2010 00:16 okum wrote:
Flash's game against Hyuk proves that he's been figured out. As his game vs Zero proves, his turtle style has been figured out by Effort, so now he has to resort to mindless aggression to win TvZs.


Good. I like how you support Plexa's argument. I support this sentiment wholeheartedly.
WWJDD??
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
August 04 2010 19:29 GMT
#209
On August 05 2010 04:18 Mortality wrote:
People are thinking too much about last night's games in terms of PR positions. Last night told us nothing. Hyuk vs Flash ZvT? Hydra vs Jaedong ZvZ? Were we ever expecting anything other than Flash and Jaedong raping their opponents?

The upcoming MSL games are going to be the real test. Flash is facing off with one of the few Terrans to have a winning record against him right at the time when people are questioning Flash's TvT ability. Jaedong is facing off against one of the strongest TvZ players in the biz.

The interesting stuff is yet to come.


And there's a guy who can beat both of them on any given day who's already made the Ro8.
WWJDD??
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
August 04 2010 19:36 GMT
#210
Wait a second, did anyone actually argue that todays games should affect the PR?
I thought someone said that Flash raped hyuk harder than jaedong raped hydra and then people started shittalking hyuk. Chill down.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 04 2010 19:42 GMT
#211
On August 05 2010 04:18 Mortality wrote:
People are thinking too much about last night's games in terms of PR positions. Last night told us nothing. Hyuk vs Flash ZvT? Hydra vs Jaedong ZvZ? Were we ever expecting anything other than Flash and Jaedong raping their opponents?

The upcoming MSL games are going to be the real test. Flash is facing off with one of the few Terrans to have a winning record against him right at the time when people are questioning Flash's TvT ability. Jaedong is facing off against one of the strongest TvZ players in the biz.

The interesting stuff is yet to come.

fOrGG's TvT is kinda iffy already, and his record against Flash belies his ability. I think all the games in the series in the Arena MSL were proxy against 14CC, or 3 of the four. But it doesn't really matter how good fOrGG's TvT or Sea's TvZ is now. We'll just have to look at the games themselves.
Jaedong
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
August 04 2010 19:52 GMT
#212
This PR proves that the number of annoying Flash fans is approximately equal to the number of annoying JD fans. Moderation is a good thing.

This month is shaping up very interestingly so far; Flash and JD both moving along in both leagues, all of TaekBangLeeSsang in OSL still, things are going to be fun.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 04 2010 20:06 GMT
#213
Haha what, the other thread shot up to like 500 posts when people thought Jaedong got robbed. Flash fans have been tame by comparison.

Not to say they're any less bitter, antagonistic or blind, but they've been quieter! Maybe because we don't think Plexa is a hateful biased hatey mchater.
Remember Violet.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 20:14:14
August 04 2010 20:13 GMT
#214
On August 05 2010 05:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha what, the other thread shot up to like 500 posts when people thought Jaedong got robbed. Flash fans have been tame by comparison.

Not to say they're any less bitter, antagonistic or blind, but they've been quieter! Maybe because we don't think Plexa is a hateful biased hatey mchater.


Or maybe it's because JD "got robbed" two months in a row, while Flash has been number one for so many months that being number 2 doesn't hurt too many feelings?

I still feel Flash deserverd more it though. JD play hasn't been as scary as usual last month either.
Revolutionist fan
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 20:26:05
August 04 2010 20:25 GMT
#215
Reason isn't what drives fanboys. Pure indignant rage is!

Also robbed 2 months?
Remember Violet.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
August 04 2010 20:25 GMT
#216
On August 05 2010 05:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha what, the other thread shot up to like 500 posts when people thought Jaedong got robbed. Flash fans have been tame by comparison.

Not to say they're any less bitter, antagonistic or blind, but they've been quieter! Maybe because we don't think Plexa is a hateful biased hatey mchater.


Well but then last month was more controversial too, no? Not only due to the positioning itself which many disagreed with but also some iffy motivation. Jaedong does as far as I can see have more fans though, and more fans = more annoying fans. So it's probably true to an extent anyway :p
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 04 2010 20:31 GMT
#217
Most people were going "Well I guess Flash is #1 next month" last month so from a thoughtful perspective then it's pretty close, we're just not as loud. =D

I thought plexa's reasoning on this month's PR was the worst yet.
Remember Violet.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 04 2010 20:55 GMT
#218
On August 05 2010 05:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 05:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha what, the other thread shot up to like 500 posts when people thought Jaedong got robbed. Flash fans have been tame by comparison.

Not to say they're any less bitter, antagonistic or blind, but they've been quieter! Maybe because we don't think Plexa is a hateful biased hatey mchater.


Or maybe it's because JD "got robbed" two months in a row, while Flash has been number one for so many months that being number 2 doesn't hurt too many feelings?

I still feel Flash deserverd more it though. JD play hasn't been as scary as usual last month either.


Exactly how was JD robbed during May, when Flash went Gold/Silver and 3-0 curb-stomped Jaedong?
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
August 04 2010 21:05 GMT
#219
i totally dislike the idea about the forced need to exist only a number 1, Simetimes is so close and having to force yourself to pick one should not be best way to do it. If i could do this month i would go like Jaedong and Flash for #1, i will state the facts and why they deserved and then let the people choose on who to bet, because you know some ppl think momentum means more, other thinks consistency means more,other thinks number of titles means more,so how do you know? you just cant know, thats why i would put jd and flash number 1 and let the people decide in their own mind who is most likely superior the other one.till thinks get more clear.
Zaxro
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
August 04 2010 21:23 GMT
#220
On August 05 2010 05:55 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 05:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
On August 05 2010 05:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha what, the other thread shot up to like 500 posts when people thought Jaedong got robbed. Flash fans have been tame by comparison.

Not to say they're any less bitter, antagonistic or blind, but they've been quieter! Maybe because we don't think Plexa is a hateful biased hatey mchater.


Or maybe it's because JD "got robbed" two months in a row, while Flash has been number one for so many months that being number 2 doesn't hurt too many feelings?

I still feel Flash deserverd more it though. JD play hasn't been as scary as usual last month either.


Exactly how was JD robbed during May, when Flash went Gold/Silver and 3-0 curb-stomped Jaedong?

I would guess he is referring to Effort being above JD. That was arguable either way, but I don't think he was referring to Flash being above JD.
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