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TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
July 18 2010 08:42 GMT
#681
finally fantasy is in there, gets what he deserves in the entire time. 2nd best terran, 3rd best player, this is why I love fantasy and have a bad pun of him in my signature.
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
July 18 2010 14:37 GMT
#682
On July 18 2010 17:09 o[twist] wrote:
baby really is not playing well. i don't know what happened; i think the kid's psychological game is not strong. i've been a huge baby fan for a long time now but this is simply not the guy we thought was going to start winning starleagues awhile ago. awful


This isn't that uncommon a thing to happen to young gamers like him. He'll own it up for a little while and show you a glimpse of what's to come then he'll slump for a while. Then when you least expect it he'll be back and be very very good.

Think about Flash. Now Baby didn't have quite the run that Flash did in and around Bacchus but that's the pattern he fell into, and its rough on a long time fan. At Bacchus I knew he would be the best ever then for 2 years he failed and failed again. Then finally he put together the most dominate 8 months of BW history, made it worth following for 2 years of fail.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
July 19 2010 05:17 GMT
#683
On July 18 2010 23:37 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 17:09 o[twist] wrote:
baby really is not playing well. i don't know what happened; i think the kid's psychological game is not strong. i've been a huge baby fan for a long time now but this is simply not the guy we thought was going to start winning starleagues awhile ago. awful


This isn't that uncommon a thing to happen to young gamers like him. He'll own it up for a little while and show you a glimpse of what's to come then he'll slump for a while. Then when you least expect it he'll be back and be very very good.

Think about Flash. Now Baby didn't have quite the run that Flash did in and around Bacchus but that's the pattern he fell into, and its rough on a long time fan. At Bacchus I knew he would be the best ever then for 2 years he failed and failed again. Then finally he put together the most dominate 8 months of BW history, made it worth following for 2 years of fail.


yeah it's just sad to see. baby's the only player i really get emotional like this about although i hate to see any of the big three in a slump. he also seems to take his losses really hard and hardly seems to get much enjoyment out of his wins
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 19 2010 09:48 GMT
#684
The crying after the losses in Playoffs really set me off >.<
Hopefully he'll recover, but this'll be a lesson to him...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 19 2010 13:20 GMT
#685
On July 18 2010 17:42 TriniMasta[wD] wrote:
finally fantasy is in there, gets what he deserves in the entire time. 2nd best terran, 3rd best player, this is why I love fantasy and have a bad pun of him in my signature.

Oh god, that's horrible.

But I love him too.

On July 19 2010 14:17 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 23:37 revy wrote:
On July 18 2010 17:09 o[twist] wrote:
baby really is not playing well. i don't know what happened; i think the kid's psychological game is not strong. i've been a huge baby fan for a long time now but this is simply not the guy we thought was going to start winning starleagues awhile ago. awful


This isn't that uncommon a thing to happen to young gamers like him. He'll own it up for a little while and show you a glimpse of what's to come then he'll slump for a while. Then when you least expect it he'll be back and be very very good.

Think about Flash. Now Baby didn't have quite the run that Flash did in and around Bacchus but that's the pattern he fell into, and its rough on a long time fan. At Bacchus I knew he would be the best ever then for 2 years he failed and failed again. Then finally he put together the most dominate 8 months of BW history, made it worth following for 2 years of fail.


yeah it's just sad to see. baby's the only player i really get emotional like this about although i hate to see any of the big three in a slump. he also seems to take his losses really hard and hardly seems to get much enjoyment out of his wins

It reminds me of (T)Leta last year. Great player, but totally sniped in the playoffs. It's taken him almost a year to recover, but after the match-fixing scandal he looked much improved.

I think BaBy will recover faster because his match-ups are more solid and well rounded, and his TvZ isn't somewhat gimmicky. But he is also younger and more impressionable, so who knows?

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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 00:47:57
July 19 2010 14:55 GMT
#686
It was a little different for Leta. His losses in PL were out of the blue. Look at his matchlist in the months leading up to the playoffs:
Leta upto getting massacred.

The 0-3 obliteration in the playoffs is what made Leta fall off.

Baby was playing like a superstar even just two months ago. But then he seemed to hit a few bumps on the road. Those bumps seem to have managed to derail him completely. He entered the playoffs on a 5 game loss streak, his worst ever IIRC. He had already fallen off coming into the playoffs. And so far he's stank up the joint. If I were WeMade's coach, I wouldn't play him for ace matches until he gets his groove back.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
July 19 2010 15:52 GMT
#687
On July 19 2010 14:17 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 23:37 revy wrote:
On July 18 2010 17:09 o[twist] wrote:
baby really is not playing well. i don't know what happened; i think the kid's psychological game is not strong. i've been a huge baby fan for a long time now but this is simply not the guy we thought was going to start winning starleagues awhile ago. awful


This isn't that uncommon a thing to happen to young gamers like him. He'll own it up for a little while and show you a glimpse of what's to come then he'll slump for a while. Then when you least expect it he'll be back and be very very good.

Think about Flash. Now Baby didn't have quite the run that Flash did in and around Bacchus but that's the pattern he fell into, and its rough on a long time fan. At Bacchus I knew he would be the best ever then for 2 years he failed and failed again. Then finally he put together the most dominate 8 months of BW history, made it worth following for 2 years of fail.


yeah it's just sad to see. baby's the only player i really get emotional like this about although i hate to see any of the big three in a slump. he also seems to take his losses really hard and hardly seems to get much enjoyment out of his wins


ggg
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
pronesc
Profile Joined July 2010
United States31 Posts
July 19 2010 19:13 GMT
#688
"after an average month"
- this was not an average month for Flash.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 19 2010 20:06 GMT
#689
Argh Mortality don't break the layout!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
July 19 2010 21:06 GMT
#690
On July 18 2010 14:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 12:17 WWJDD wrote:
Wait. Playoffs are best of 3 Bo7s, but final is just one single Bo7?? Really?


Literally because the proleague sponsors don't want to rent out the beach the finals are played on for 3 days. It's one of the biggest disappoints in progaming this year for me that we won't even get a properly long finals.

Really? IMO all the playoffs should have been one Bo7. The whole 3 day thing is epically not epic :/
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 23:38:38
July 19 2010 22:09 GMT
#691
Either one Bo7, or last year's 2 Bo7 + Superace format would have been better. I agree three days is quite excessive, particularly since a Bo7 takes longer and brings out the weaker players on each team >_<

Weak players getting rolled back and forth for three days is pretty meh. I'd rather have more concentrated Bisu awesomeness.
My strategy is to fork people.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 20 2010 00:47 GMT
#692
On July 20 2010 05:06 flamewheel wrote:
Argh Mortality don't break the layout!


It doesn't breka if you use Firefox, but I'll go back and edit it to just a link.

Better not use IE!!!!!
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 20 2010 01:20 GMT
#693
On July 20 2010 06:06 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 14:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 18 2010 12:17 WWJDD wrote:
Wait. Playoffs are best of 3 Bo7s, but final is just one single Bo7?? Really?


Literally because the proleague sponsors don't want to rent out the beach the finals are played on for 3 days. It's one of the biggest disappoints in progaming this year for me that we won't even get a properly long finals.

Really? IMO all the playoffs should have been one Bo7. The whole 3 day thing is epically not epic :/


well if only one day then bo9 would be better imo
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
July 20 2010 01:46 GMT
#694
For next month it looks to me like

1. Jaedong (finally undisputable even for Flash fans)
2. Flash (if at all)
3. Bisu
Tempest[OEC]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States417 Posts
July 20 2010 01:55 GMT
#695
On July 20 2010 10:46 Fenrax wrote:
For next month it looks to me like

1. Jaedong (finally undisputable even for Flash fans)
2. Flash (if at all)
3. Bisu

Even as a Bisu fan I wouldnt jump the gun and put him that high. A middle spot 5-7 should be sufficient. However there is still Ro16 of MSL to look forward to so this may change!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 20 2010 01:59 GMT
#696
problem with CJ and SKT1 players is that the winners of todays playoffs wont care for ILs at al...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 20 2010 02:22 GMT
#697
On July 20 2010 09:47 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 05:06 flamewheel wrote:
Argh Mortality don't break the layout!


It doesn't breka if you use Firefox, but I'll go back and edit it to just a link.

Better not use IE!!!!!

Aah so that's why I didn't have a clue of what he was talking about. Firefox ftw~
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 03:34:54
July 20 2010 03:27 GMT
#698
On July 20 2010 10:55 Tempest[OEC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 10:46 Fenrax wrote:
For next month it looks to me like

1. Jaedong (finally undisputable even for Flash fans)
2. Flash (if at all)
3. Bisu

Even as a Bisu fan I wouldnt jump the gun and put him that high. A middle spot 5-7 should be sufficient. However there is still Ro16 of MSL to look forward to so this may change!


I am no particular fan of anyone. But I have no idea how Bisu could not at least be 4th. Except for JD, Flash and Effort I see no one being on his level. Haven't you watched his games? He's 12-2 since his comeback and man, those were SWEET games. Usually PvZ wins are made of somehow surviving the early game into Epic Storms or Reavers, but Bisu just flat out dominated a good number of his PvZs.

For the ranking: I think it is undoubtable that JD gets #1. For #2, I would have a real hard time choosing between Flash, Effort and Bisu. Effort plays consistent since a over two month and has a good winrate again. Bisu is only back since a short time, but his play was just stellar, the by far best PvZ (7-0) we seen since months and also very good PvT (4-0). His PvP was despite the record not bad at all, one close loss and a clear buildorder loss make it 1-2. FlaSh just fell from a half year of dominace into a deep hole, with mediocre play, an Ace Match crisis and in the end he wasn't even Ace for his team anymore (though only in a completely irrelvant match). Being 8-8 since the beginning of June just isn't as impressive as the others imo.

So if it was me, I'd rank it 1. JD, 2. Effort, 3. Bisu and 4. Flash but I took into account that Plexa has unique and unpredicatable criterias for PR.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 20 2010 04:58 GMT
#699
On July 20 2010 12:27 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 10:55 Tempest[OEC] wrote:
On July 20 2010 10:46 Fenrax wrote:
For next month it looks to me like

1. Jaedong (finally undisputable even for Flash fans)
2. Flash (if at all)
3. Bisu

Even as a Bisu fan I wouldnt jump the gun and put him that high. A middle spot 5-7 should be sufficient. However there is still Ro16 of MSL to look forward to so this may change!


I am no particular fan of anyone. But I have no idea how Bisu could not at least be 4th. Except for JD, Flash and Effort I see no one being on his level. Haven't you watched his games? He's 12-2 since his comeback and man, those were SWEET games. Usually PvZ wins are made of somehow surviving the early game into Epic Storms or Reavers, but Bisu just flat out dominated a good number of his PvZs.

For the ranking: I think it is undoubtable that JD gets #1. For #2, I would have a real hard time choosing between Flash, Effort and Bisu. Effort plays consistent since a over two month and has a good winrate again. Bisu is only back since a short time, but his play was just stellar, the by far best PvZ (7-0) we seen since months and also very good PvT (4-0). His PvP was despite the record not bad at all, one close loss and a clear buildorder loss make it 1-2. FlaSh just fell from a half year of dominace into a deep hole, with mediocre play, an Ace Match crisis and in the end he wasn't even Ace for his team anymore (though only in a completely irrelvant match). Being 8-8 since the beginning of June just isn't as impressive as the others imo.

So if it was me, I'd rank it 1. JD, 2. Effort, 3. Bisu and 4. Flash but I took into account that Plexa has unique and unpredicatable criterias for PR.


Are you forgetting Fantasy? Hell he just dominated Effort. For some reason, people still seem to underestimate Fantasy. For example, just as the match between him and effort started everyone was like "omg effort is going to PWN him.Fantasy got no chance! " Now obviously that is on the chat where everyone is stupid but still, I've seen it elsewhere. Fantasy's been doing pretty well, don't count him out.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 20 2010 05:44 GMT
#700
Flash needs to play games before a final decision on him can be made. Right now there are 4 players who all are looking very strong and deserve note:
JD, Bisu, Effort, Fantasy

On one hand, if someone doesn't getting many opportunities to demonstrate his talent (Flash has played exactly 2 games since last PR), you don't want to hold it against him. On the other hand, these other players have to be rewarded. They are all playing really well and they have all delivered solid results over the past few months and they are all delivering solid results this month.



Bottom line: it's too soon this month to try to rank people. The entire top 5 of the Power Rank is looking a little like a mash-up. 4 of these 5 are currently in Proleague playoffs and depending on who decides to transform into a wrecking ball and who decides to transform into a kitten's toy will decide a lot.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
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