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[MSL] Avalon Ro32 Conclusion

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The Avalon MSL Round of 32 Conclusion

Over the last two weeks, the Round of 16 was finalized. Check out my recaps one and two for the first half of all the Round of 32 Groups, where Effort, Iris, Kal, Fantasy, Flash, Piano, Pure, and Calm advanced. Bisu, Jaedong, Jangbi, Stork, and Savior were all left on the brink of elimination.

Current Avalon MSL Round of 16 Bracket
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Bracket by SilverskY

Yes, four of the top five players are currently on the left side of the bracket. Effort, Jaedong, Bisu, and Fantasy battle it out on the left side while Flash seems to have a virtual cakewalk in the other half. However, remember that the MSL reorganized its Ro8 bracket structure. The Round of 8 will re-seed the players based on their KeSPA rank:

KeSPA July 2009 Ranking (MSL Ro16 Players)
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KeSPA Rank. Player
1. (Z)Jaedong
2. (P)Bisu
3. (T)Flash
5. (T)fantasy
10. (P)Kal
11. (Z)ZerO
12. (Z)EffOrt
14. (T)Hwasin
16. (Z)Calm
18. (T)UpMaGiC
22. (Z)Kwanro
29. (T)Iris
30. (T)fOrGG
36. (T)Canata
46. (P)Pure
50. (T)PianO

This means that Jaedong will not be on the same side of the bracket as Bisu or Flash if he makes the Round of 8. Other than that, anyone can be on anyone's side of the bracket, depending on how many higher KeSPA seeds qualify. Previews will be up in a few days for the first week of the Round of 16.


Group A Conclusion
Live Report Thread

(T)Hwasin > (T)HiyA @ Outsider
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Hiya opens 2-port while Hwasin does a 1-fac expand. The wraiths do enough damage to make both players come out relatively even. Hiya briefly cliffs Hwasin and takes his own natural. Hwasin responds by getting goliaths and eventually 2-port wraiths for himself, but this is scouted by one of Hiya's wraiths. Hwasin sets up a contain and takes his third, but Hiya breaks it with ground units and SCVs. Hiya then takes out Hwasin's natural, forcing Hwasin to retreat to his main, expanding to a back natural. Hiya then moves to take out Hwasin's third (while taking his own back natural), but while he does this, Hwasin successfully cliffs Hiya's front natural. Both players use dropships and Outsider's terrain to secure more bases far away from their mains. Hiya drops Hwasin's factories, but the drop doesn't do enough damage before it is snuffed out. There's a big clash in the center, and Hwasin's army crushes Hiya's due to superior dropship micro and placement. Hiya didn't have enough goliaths, and Hwasin would drop and re-drop on clumped tanks. Hiya was definitely ahead in this game but Hwasin clawed his way back.

(T)Hwasin > (Z)Luxury @ Byzantium 3
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Luxury opens 12-pool-gas versus Hwasin's 2-rax. Luxury proceeds to two hatch spire, but loses two drones to a marine push because his sunken was a few seconds late. Two medics arrive just as Luxury's spire finishes, and Hwasin breaks the one sunken with the help of two stim-rallied firebats. Luxury's natural hatchery dies, but he is able to mass enough mutas to save his main. Unfortunately, it's a hopeless situation, because 1-gas muta does not win against a terran who has prepared with 3-rax mm. Luxury eventually retakes his natural, but Hwasin is able to take his as well and techs quickly to irradiate, which easily kills Luxury's two-group muta harass.

(T)Hwasin advances to face (T)Iris in the Round of 16

After a huge post-MSL win slump, Luxury seemed on the rebound with a few wins in PL R5, only to crash again in both the OSL and MSL. He's now out of both individual leagues (courtesy of go.go, Effort, and Hwasin), and recently lost to Miracle in Proleague. He is slumping hard after one MSL win. Hwasin qualified, but he's the poster child for being good but not good enough. He just isn't able to beat whoever is S-class at the moment. He'll have a rough time with Iris in the Ro16, and it only gets tougher from there.


Group B Conclusion
Live Report Thread

(P)Bisu > (P)free @ Carthage 3
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Bisu opens proxy two gate right at Free's entrance, directly in the path of Free's scouting probe. Free pulls seven workers to attack the first warping gate while Bisu attempts to build a second one. Both gates die before a zealot can be produced, but Bisu clearly practiced for this situation. Despite losing all those buildings, Bisu came out slightly ahead because Free had to pull so many workers and lost a lot of mining time. Bisu gets range and a citadel before second gate, while Free goes 2-gate robo obs. Bisu expands behind DTs and cannons.

The first fight occurs at Bisu's natural between two cannons, four dragoons, and two zealots for Bisu against seven dragoons and two zealots for Free. Free wins the fight with four dragoons left over, taking out the nexus. Bisu's freshly produced units allow him to retake his natural and remake the nexus. Meanwhile, Bisu snuck two DTs into Free's main that killed a decent number of probes. Both players take third bases. The two big armys feint at each other, and Bisu runs around the side of the map with a group of zealots and takes out Free's third while Free's army is away, and then holds Free's counter with superior army positioning. Now down a base, Free is unable to recover. The armies trade one more time and Free taps out.

(P)Bisu > (P)JangBi @ Heartbreak Ridge
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Both players open with nearly identical builds, gate robo gate. Bisu gets a nexus, battery, and ground reaver while Jangbi a speed air reaver then nexus. Jangbi gets two shuttles and does some cosmetic damage with three air reavers, but through good goon positioning and fast reflexes, Bisu has negated Jangbi's harass. Both players take their third. During the first big army clash, Bisu has storm and Jangbi doesn't, but this advantage is nullified by Jangbi sniping a shuttle with two reavers inside. Jangbi barely saves his third base several times, but his probe count is significantly reduced, and Bisu has taken a fourth. There's another big battle, and for some reason Jangbi still doesn't have storm, but his army somehow still wins. But Jangbi lost his reavers, and Bisu's next wave forces Jangbi to run while Bisu takes a fifth base. Down two bases, Jangbi can only muster a weak counter, and concedes.

(P)Bisu advances to face (T)fantasy in the Round of 16

Free had been doing fine in PL recently, while Jangbi (and all of Samsung) has been slumping. It's no surprise that Bisu advanced out of these three players, as he's clearly better than the other two. However, every Bisu fan was probably freaking out several times during the Free game, especially when his two proxy gates died and then his nexus was razed. But Bisu used his superior macro and large army control to gain small advantages and slowly secure a better economy. He was never behind in the Jangbi game, and even in the Free game you could sense he was going to eventually come out on top.

Now he plays Fantasy for a rematch of Batoo semifinals. The Koreans call Fantasy "the Terrorist" not because of his vulture harass but because he terrorizes brackets. Last time he prevented the Bisu-Jaedong dream final, and this time he might do it again. Inter-team series are weird like that. Savior-Iris, Jaedong-Lomo, Jaedong-Forgg, Fantasy-Bisu were all series where the "inferior" player won or played the "superior" teammate much closer than expected.


Group C Conclusion
Live Report Thread

(Z)Kwanro > (P)Stork @ Byzantium 3
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Game opens standard FE into sair-archives for Stork while Kwanro goes for three hatch spire into more hatches. Byzantium's third gas allows Kwanro to get mutas and lurkers both, and Stork's initial zealot-archon push is stopped by hydra-lurker-muta. Stork loses his main cannons and corsairs to mutas and scourge, defending with nothing but slow, clumsy archons. Kwanro's mutas do tons of damage to zealots, probes, and templars while four archons chase helplessly. Stork is on three bases but has a low probe count. Kwanro remains on three bases, but has a larger ground army.

Kwanro trades his muta fleet for two or three templars, and then attacks, catching most of Stork's zealot-archon-templar army in the open. Kwanro ignores the remaining storms and blows right through Stork's army, razing Stork's natural. Horrible army composition and decision making from Stork. He saw that Kwanro was only on three bases and should have gotten more defensive units (more templars, dragoons, and reavers) and pushed out later.

(Z)Kwanro > (T)Shine @ Carthage 3
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Kwanro opens standard three hatch spire while Shine goes factory-expand, getting goliaths instead of valks to defend. Shine also opts to get more factories (instead of the goliath-mm switch that Flash uses). Kwanro's muta harass is effective, killing several SCVs while keeping Shine's army occupied while taking two more bases. The muta harass finally ends when Shine gets irradiate, but due to a super fast muta split, Kwanro keeps most of his mutas alive.

Kwanro drops Shine's main with hydras, which do some damage before dying. Kwanro then hits the front, doing some insignificant damage before running away. Even though Kwanro is losing a ton of units, he is buying time for his economy and denying Shine a third base. Shine finally pushes out with several vessels and a mech army, but Kwanro drops Shine's main and natural simultaneously, doing a ton of damage to Shine's SCV count. Shine's push eventually gets flanked by a huge number of hydra-ling, and Shine taps out. Kwanro controlled the flow the entire game, macroing strongly behind small attacks that exploited the lack of mobility from Shine's mech army.

(Z)Kwanro advances to face (T)Flash in the Round of 16

Stork robbed the fans from seeing another epic Stork-Flash series, and is slumping along with everyone else in Samsung. He's out of the MSL and on the brink of elimination from his OSL group as well. Shine still hasn't learned from Flash. I really hoped he'd do the same goliath-mm build that Flash pioneered, but instead Shine just did the same predictable tank-goliath build, only without effective vulture harass.

Kwanro has arguably the best shot out of all the right-side bracket players to take out Flash (the other player with a decent shot is Zero), and he's going to get his chance immediately in the Round of 16. He is for sure the underdog, but it should be a very exciting series. If Kwanro somehow beats Flash, his road won't get any easier, as the reseed means he'll face another strong player in the Ro8.


Group D Conclusion
Live Report Thread

(T)sKyHigh > < Carthage 3 > (T)Sea
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Both players open 1-fac cc, adding factories while fighting for territory in the middle with vultures and tanks. Skyhigh wins the first fight with better tank positioning on high ground. Both players take more bases, but Skyhigh holds more territory. The game focuses on the 8:00 gas base, which Sea needs to maintain an even expo count. After many drops and counter-drops, Sea finally secures it, but Skyhigh has been running off more bases for quite a while, and has switched to BCs. Sea has a window to do a mass drop, but Skyhigh intercepts and deflects the attempt. Once BCs are out, Sea concedes.

(Z)ZerO > (T)sKyHigh @ Heartbreak Ridge
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Skyhigh sends one of his first few SCVs to proxy a rax above Zero's natural cliff. Zero scouts for proxies at the normal location (12:00), doesn't find any, and proceeds to 12 hatch. Skyhigh blocks the entrance with a supply depot, sealing off Zero's natural hatchery from his main. Zero cancels the hatch and builds an offensive extractor in Skyhigh's main. Skyhigh bunkers Zero in, but Zero runs a few lings past, and uses the drone from his cancelled natural to expand to one of the corner bases. The lings that ran past get speed, and Skyhigh is forced to defend with SCVs only in his main. Zero still can't get out of his main, but the five lings are wrecking havoc in Skyhigh's main. Zero rallies lings two by two from his outside hatch while getting lair. He then attempts to break out with lings, but Skyhigh holds, losing most of his marines. Skyhigh is still on two barracks with stim not yet done researching when Zero gets to muta. Skyhigh can't fight muta on one base without range or stim, and quickly dies. In a stunning repeat of what happened on Outsider, Skyhigh successfully proxied but followed it up with some bad decision making.

(Z)ZerO advances to face (P)Pure in the Round of 16

Skyhigh failed hard in his first game against Zero, throwing away a huge early game lead with one bad marine attack. This time, he got past the difficult TvT with Sea only to blow another game where he successfully proxied. Zero won due to the drone and lings that got past the block. As for Sea, you know we love you man, but your window for getting to semifinals of a league is closing fast. Zero advanced to the weak side of the MSL bracket, and is doing well (2-0) in his OSL group too. He can certainly beat Pure in the Ro16, but when the Ro8 is reseeded, he'll likely be the underdog. Zero reached the semis last time, but this season's field is far more difficult.


Group E Conclusion
Live Report Thread

(P)Horang2 > (T)NaDa @ Heartbreak Ridge
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Horang builds two manner pylons and two gates in Nada's mineral line, badly screwing up his mining, but all four buildings die without producing any zealots. Horang then proxies a cybernetics core and citadel in one of the corners, making a second core to research range in his main, faking out Nada's scouting SCV. In response, Nada FEs, not knowing that Horang's archives was already started, but then finds the archives with a marine anyway, and barely gets turrets up in time. The DT can't get into Nada's main, but Horang does kill some SCVs and a tank with his first zealot and goon, delays mining at the expo with his DT, and expos himself. Next comes a DT drop, which also fails to do damage. Back at the proxy, the single scouting marine almost kills the archives but is taken out by a probe. Horang takes a third base while flying his shuttle around Nada's main.

Nada proxied a starport above Horang's base, and his vulture drop nets a decent number of probe kills while he takes a third base also. Horang takes a fourth and techs to arbiter, and uses his first arbiter to spearhead a push break at Nada's natural, cutting off Nada's third and forcing it to lift. From then on Horang repeatedly smashes into Nada's natural front with stasis, wearing Nada down until Nada has no more units and has to taps out. Horang transitioned very well from an unorthodox opening into a solid standard late game.

(T)UpMaGiC > (P)Horang2 @ Outsider
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Horang opens 1-gate hidden expand, taking a back natural nowhere close to his main. Up does a 1-fac expand as well, and then attacks early with three tanks and several vultures. Horang handles it well, securing his own natural. Horang techs quickly to arbiters off four base (two gas) while Up adds vactories and a third cc. At this point, Up still has no idea about Horang's hidden back natural expansion.

Up then uses three dropships to cliff Horang, who has no shuttles or arbiters out. The cliff is a real pain, doing massive damage to whatever units come out of Horang's main gateways. Horang tries to take it out with a shuttle, but loses it and the units inside to the cliff group, which quickly gets reinforced by more dropships. Up has meanwhile taken a back double gas while Horang attempts to secure the empty main. Horang uses two shuttles and finally clears the cliff, but his army is now too small to deal with Up's main push, which takes out the probes Horang's mineral natural and briefly sieges his main. Horang manages to break through, but his units have to chase Up's mini-pushes all around the map. Up manages to cliff Horang yet again. Horang finally gets stasis, but is too far behind economically to catch up. Very nice dropship style and multitasking from Upmagic, who seemed to attack everywhere at once.

(T)UpMaGiC advances to face (Z)EffOrt in the Round of 16

Nada never really had a chance in this group despite there being no S-class players in it. Horang was entertaining, but relied too much on gimmicks against Up. When Horang played standard against Up, he lost, even when his hidden expo went unnoticed for the entire game. Upmagic hasn't been doing great lately, but his TvP is good enough to own Horang twice in this group. Does Up have what it takes to beat Effort in a series in the Ro16? Most likely not. But Up has shown some upper tier and weird TvZ before, so he always has a chance.


Group F Conclusion
Live Report Thread

(Z)Jaedong > (T)Leta @ Outsider
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Jaedong 12-hatches, using his ninth drone to scout and get an SCV kill. Leta does his standard TvZ 2-port wraith into mm. His vulture can't get in and he gets an ovie or two with his first few wraiths, but no significant damage. Jaedong gets den and spire together off two hatcheries, and is able to fend off the wraiths nicely with muta-scourge. You can see the superior reaction speed and muta control from Jaedong here, as he is very careful not to take extra hits or lose even one drone or overlord to Leta's wraiths. As a result, Jaedong is able to go on the offensive, forcing Leta's wraiths to stay home and defend while Jaedong takes two more gas. Jaedong masses two groups of mutas, and just obliterates Leta's wraith and mm force. Leta is forced to stay on one base while Jaedong has a 4-gas eco, eventually overrunning him with mutalisks.

(Z)Jaedong > (P)Movie @ Byzantium 3
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Movie opens standard FE (no goon timing attack), while Jaedong does a 12-hatch, getting gas and lair before third hatch. Jaedong gets spire and adds three more hatches, taking the natural of the far main. Movie techs toward the zealot-archon timing attack, going at Jaedong's natural with 10 speedlots and 2 archons. Jaedong looks in trouble for a few moments, but holds it off with muta-ling-sunken and very nice building placement. After the first attack (and DT-sneak follow up) failed to do significant damage, Jaedong was able to fully secure four gas bases. Movie tries another break at Jaedong's nat, and once again Jaedong barely holds with muta-ling-sunken. Movie cannot secure a third gas due to Jaedong's mutas, and keeps trying to break Jaedong's bases but is barely held off each time.

Eventually, Jaedong gets to hive and ultra-defiler-crackling without ever having to make a hydra or lurker against zealot-archon. Movie never gets that third gas base and never fully kills a Jaedong expo, so he could not mass the archons or reavers needed to fight ultraling and swarm. Jaedong played very passive, gaining eco advantages by closely defending several times, and eventually massed a huge ultraling and defiler army.

(Z)Jaedong advances to face (P)Kal in the Round of 16

Leta had his shot versus Fantasy and Jaedong in this group, and just couldn't cut it. The wraith build that he loves TvZ works against lesser zergs with slower reflexes, but Jaedong simply gave no ground to the harass. Last week I said that Leta better have something new prepared if he wanted to beat Jaedong, but he came out with the same old wraith build. Jaedong clearly practiced against it, as his timing and execution were perfect. In both games he showed excellent muta control, somehow beating Movie's archon-zealot army with just mutaling and sunkens.

Due to the MSL Ro8 reseeding, Jaedong will not face his biggest threats (Bisu and Flash) until the finals. However, if he wants to be the first MSL+OSL combo winner in a long time, he still has a very difficult road ahead of him. He should be hoping for many ZvZ series, as he can easily roll just about anyone in that matchup (Effort being the lone exception).


Group G Conclusion
Live Report Thread

(Z)sAviOr > (T)go.go @ Byzantium 3
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Savior opens standard 3-hatch, while Gogo opens 2-rax expand. Savior gets a lot of early lings (instead of sunkens) and a den, while Gogo delays his factory for four barracks. Savior loses a group of lings trying to run into Gogo's main, but still succeeds in setting up a lurker contain while taking a third gas. Gogo's factory is late, so he trades a group of mm for three lurkers to break the contain. Unfortunately, Savior already has stop lurker traps and a larger lurker-ling army, and Gogo is forced to wait for vessel and tanks.

Gogo moves out with his first push and immediately gets backstabbed. He comes home to clean it up, and then moves out again, but Savior is close to swarm. Gogo's first dropship could have taken out Savior's defiler mound, but Gogo fails to focus fire and the drop does no damage. Gogo's attacks stall due to swarm, and pretty soon Savior has ultras and plague powered by 4+ gases. Savior was the better player this game and certainly deserved the win, but Gogo played quite badly all game.

(T)Canata > (Z)sAviOr @ Carthage 3
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Savior opens standard 3-hatch muta while Canata opens 1-fac expand, getting a port soon after for dropships and valks. Savior uses his mutas to stop the first vulture drop and take a third base. Canata moves out early with valks and goliaths, and Savior flanks nicely with hydra-muta to stop it. Savior seems ahead, but loses his lead when Canata turtles on three bases and dual armory, dropping two vultures which deal quite a bit of damage in Savior's main. Savior counter-drops, trading four ovies of hydras and his entire muta flock to defending tanks and goliaths. Savior takes his fourth, and switches to pure mutalisk, but doesn't have enough to beat Canata's upgraded push (with valks) and is forced to counter with his mutas while Canata razes his main. Canata's mech blob is just too large, and Savior finally gives up.

(T)Canata advances to face (T)PianO in the Round of 16

Savior was ahead for the first half of this game, but became impatient. His drop and switch to muta were simply bad decisions. Had he stayed with hydra, or secured more bases and hive, he may have been able to win. Perhaps its an experience or comfort thing, but certain zergs are able to fight large mech armies (Jaedong, Hyvaa, etc). Savior has yet to play a game against mech where he plays for a large late game unit advantage, instead resorting to mass muta or early game attacks. That just won't cut it against someone who is so good at defending like Canata.

How far can Canata go in this MSL? He's been consistently mediocre over his five year career. While he looked sharp and is alive in both the OSL and MSL, it's hard to say he'll make the semis with such a loaded bracket. His Ro16 opponent is Piano, which is good news as his TvT has always been upper tier.


Group H Conclusion
Live Report Thread

(P)Much > (T)firebathero @ Carthage 3
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Much proxies a gate and a core near FBH's main, making two zealots, but FBH holds his wall with a bunker. Much proxies a robo there too, so FBH sees zero tech in Much's main. FBH siege-expands, while Much takes his natural and harasses with two reavers. Much rushes to carriers while taking his third. This would be a perfect time to timing push, but FBH is only on two factories and is getting his third cc.

When FBH finally pushes, Much backstabs, and FBH barely keeps a red health cc from dying. FBH has a large army, but carrier mobility is just brutal on this map. Much can attack the back of FBH's main and FBH's front third natural over cliffs and water. Nevertheless, FBH's army is still superior, but Much does a nice job of constantly countering, taking out critical comsats with his carriers so that FBH can't scan for DTs. Neither player is mining off more than one base at this point, but Much somehow pulls out the win, abusing his carrier group and forcing FBH's goliaths to run all around the map to buy time for his gates to make a sizeable ground army. This was quite a brutal way to lose, as carriers are really strong on Carthage's terrain.

(T)fOrGG > (P)Much @ Heartbreak Ridge
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Much goes for proxy gate and core again, but Forgg defends with a nice main base building layout. Forgg shows some great micro, killing two zealots and a dragoon with marines and vultures, losing only the marines. Much proxies a robo, but Forgg successfully pushes out with vultures and a tank, leading to a one damaged goon versus one tank wild car chase along the top of the map. Forgg neutralizes Much's proxy gate, but fails to find Much's robo which was a few screens away. The reaver arrives in Forgg's main and kills almost all of his SCVs before eventually dying to a wraith.

Meanwhile, Forgg gets into Much's main and deals massive damage to his probe count with vultures and mines. Both players are down to less than ten workers, but Forgg has one tank and a ton of mines laid all over Much's main, allowing him to abuse the tank's extra range. The game turns into a ridiculous goon vs mine micro UMS, with Forgg using his one red health tank and rallied vultures while Much desperately defends with goons and no obs. Both players slowly rebuild their worker counts. Much gets obs, but loses his proxy robo. Much uses his obs to push all the way to Forgg's main, attacking with half a group of goons and a zealot. But Forgg has four tanks and vultures, and the attack goes very badly. Forgg eventually finishes Much off with a vulture drop and tank push. Neither player expanded all game.

(T)fOrGG advances to face (Z)Calm in the Round of 16

The Much versus FBH game was crazy because Much should have lost but abused carriers for a late game win. The next game was even crazier because both Much and Forgg stayed on one base and the winning player was down to less than five workers at one point. Very entertaining game even though the player I wanted to win blew a lead.

Forgg is somehow through to the Ro16 even though his play has been very suspect. He was behind in both games against Much but managed to win due to huge mistakes by his opponent. All signs point toward Forgg easily getting knocked out by Calm in the Ro16, but when you're dealing with Forgg, anything is possible. Remember last year? Forgg actually won an MSL. And it was TvZ. And it was over Jaedong. And the score was 3-0.


Next Week: Round of 16 Week 1!

The "real" MSL begins! Previews will be up in a few days, once official schedule is released.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 05 2009 23:28 GMT
#2
omg Bisu vs Fantasy rematch
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Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
July 05 2009 23:28 GMT
#3
i like this write-up. neat concise, and thorough, with a summary for each group. i hope this becomes a standard format
roflMe
Profile Joined May 2009
United States40 Posts
July 05 2009 23:31 GMT
#4
On July 06 2009 08:28 udgnim wrote:
omg Bisu vs Fantasy rematch


omg omg omg
haha
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
July 05 2009 23:32 GMT
#5
I'll be honest, I have a little trouble keeping up with the weird formats of some of these leagues...

Why was Jaedong on the brink of elimination?
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 23:36:47
July 05 2009 23:35 GMT
#6
On July 06 2009 08:32 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I'll be honest, I have a little trouble keeping up with the weird formats of some of these leagues...

Why was Jaedong on the brink of elimination?



Me too, and even though we have pages that explain them all in simple detail I still have trouble figuring out what the fuck is going on half the time

Re-seeding the round of 8 is so goddamn bizarre

They use the rankings from the start of july No weird adjustments for games played since the start of the month or something?
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 05 2009 23:36 GMT
#7
I like how he didn't mention Kal at all, lol.

Poor Kal. ;x
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 05 2009 23:38 GMT
#8
very very nice writeup.
Recommended game: much vs forgg. After that, jaedong v leta. Bisu wasn't that amazing this round, as he managed to roll his ways to easy wins.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 05 2009 23:39 GMT
#9
On July 06 2009 08:35 heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 08:32 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I'll be honest, I have a little trouble keeping up with the weird formats of some of these leagues...

Why was Jaedong on the brink of elimination?



Me too, and even though we have pages that explain them all in simple detail I still have trouble figuring out what the fuck is going on half the time

Re-seeding the round of 8 is so goddamn bizarre

They use the rankings from the start of july No weird adjustments for games played since the start of the month or something?


it's somewhat explained here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=95471

not that I understand it that much though -_-;
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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 23:46:56
July 05 2009 23:45 GMT
#10
I hope to god that fantasy can beat Bisu again.

If Flash practices a little TvZ, he should waltz right into the finals.

Edit: I'm dumb
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 23:47:44
July 05 2009 23:47 GMT
#11
On July 06 2009 08:28 udgnim wrote:
omg Bisu vs Fantasy rematch


AWESOME.
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bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 23:53:41
July 05 2009 23:50 GMT
#12
On July 06 2009 08:36 SuperArc wrote:
I like how he didn't mention Kal at all, lol.

Poor Kal. ;x


Kal advanced 2-0 in the group. This is concluding the stragglers who didn't make out of the group first.

As for the format, the ro32 is comprised of 8 groups, each group with 4 players
In each group, 2 games will be played, and the winners will play to see who moves on. Then the losers of the games play, and the winner of the losers will face the loser of the winner to move on. In the case of JD, here's what happened.

JD lost to movie, hence, he's in the loser bracket. Leta also lost to fantasy. So fantasy and movie played, and movie lost to fantasy.

So JD plays Leta then movie and won them both to move on.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
July 06 2009 00:10 GMT
#13
Much
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fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
July 06 2009 00:11 GMT
#14
Hot_Bit you are my hero! :D Your writeups are always awesome.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
July 06 2009 00:15 GMT
#15
On July 06 2009 09:11 fishyjoes wrote:
Hot_Bit you are my hero! :D Your writeups are always awesome.

Thanks for the kind words, but honestly I'm not very satisfied with these writeups, because you can't do in depth analysis or make funny or creative comments about them because there's just too many games. Nobody is going to read recaps and analysis of 40 games in the Ro32, its just too much. That's why I'm trying to summarize as quickly as possible and keep everyone up to speed until the Ro16 onward, when it becomes much more fun to be a newswriter.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 06 2009 00:20 GMT
#16
Love your writeups man!

I like the reseeding... makes sure the better players won't meet in RO8 and hopefully we get epic Bo5 semis and finals
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ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
July 06 2009 00:23 GMT
#17
thanks HB!
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 06 2009 00:24 GMT
#18
OH MAN this is going to be intense!!!

Bisu MUST defeat Fantasy btw!!
epicdoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States489 Posts
July 06 2009 00:30 GMT
#19
I was just looking for something like this to refresh my memory before the next round started, love the article!
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
July 06 2009 00:33 GMT
#20
Much

But I still love you!!
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
July 06 2009 00:35 GMT
#21
bisu, kill fantasy. I BELIEVE.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
July 06 2009 00:40 GMT
#22
Tx for this. Some entertaining games, too bad some of my favorites didn't make it. -_-"
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
July 06 2009 00:42 GMT
#23
Kal vs. Flash finals gogo.
U Gotta Skate.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 06 2009 00:42 GMT
#24
this should be an awesome Ro16

Kwanrolled? lololol Flash don't fail please.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 06 2009 00:46 GMT
#25
Thanks for the update Hot_Bid...as usual, well-written and informative.

I thought the Club Day and Lost Saga MSLs were really underwhelming both in terms of game quality and the number of S-class players who survived group stages. The Avalon MSL is a whole 'nother story...hot damn did the Ro32 produce some great games. And of course, the Ro16 field is absolutely stacked.

I'm just sad NaDa didn't make it
✌
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
July 06 2009 00:51 GMT
#26
Fantasy, I hope your insurance is paid up; it's not going to be pretty what Bisu does to you for 3-0'ing him out of the OSL. It would have been nice seeing you get farther, but you just pulled the black marble.
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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
July 06 2009 00:59 GMT
#27
On July 06 2009 08:28 udgnim wrote:
omg Bisu vs Fantasy rematch



this
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
July 06 2009 01:28 GMT
#28
Bisu vs Fantasy is going to be fucking insane... Fantasy looks to be the favorite here but I really want Bisu to win so I can see a Bisu/Jaedong finals.
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
July 06 2009 01:41 GMT
#29
NADA
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
July 06 2009 02:27 GMT
#30
Great writeup! Looking forward to the RO16 writeups as well.

Fantasy is the favorite over Bisu, come on guys. He just 3-0'd him recently and he's still not at least the favorite?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
July 06 2009 02:29 GMT
#31
Bisu vs Fantasy is going to be so sick
POGGERS
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-06 02:33:51
July 06 2009 02:33 GMT
#32
Fantasy > Bisu - 3:1

Edit - but I think Bisu's got a good chance. Haven't seen him play T recently though.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
July 06 2009 02:46 GMT
#33
can't wait for previews!!!! esp if they're from WOMBO COMBO!!!!!

and much T_T so close
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 06 2009 02:50 GMT
#34
Quite excited for Jaedong vs. Kal, maybe even more than Bisu vs. Fantasy.
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ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
July 06 2009 02:50 GMT
#35
you forgot that ZvT (Z)sAviOr played vs (T)fantasy's mech on colloseum
fuck lag
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
July 06 2009 03:10 GMT
#36
Love this stuff.

H-Biddy is the closest thing we have here to a straight journo at TL
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Lamprey
Profile Joined June 2009
United States4 Posts
July 06 2009 03:17 GMT
#37
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 06 2009 03:44 GMT
#38
On July 06 2009 10:28 Whiplash wrote:
Bisu vs Fantasy is going to be fucking insane... Fantasy looks to be the favorite here but I really want Bisu to win so I can see a Bisu/Jaedong finals.


This is what I'm thinking.

Fantasy is probably going to roll over Bisu unless something happens in the SK house. (Bisu puts sleeping pills in Fantasy's food on the day of the match)
haha
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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
July 06 2009 04:10 GMT
#39
I predict ForGG vs Flash in the semifinals and ForGG vs Jaedong rematch in the finals, despite ForGG's lackluster play. Basically Arena MSL part 2. I base this prediction on absolutely nothing.
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
July 06 2009 05:20 GMT
#40
Bisu vs FanTaSy will be really hard. I remember in OSL when FanTaSy won 3-0... maybe he will do the same thing.. his TvP is insane. Anyway. gogo Bisu ~~~
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MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
July 06 2009 05:37 GMT
#41
On July 06 2009 09:11 fishyjoes wrote:
Hot_Bit you are my hero! :D Your writeups are always awesome.

Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
July 06 2009 06:56 GMT
#42
Your stuff feels very professional and i really like to read it! Go Hot_Bid
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
July 06 2009 07:02 GMT
#43
Bisu vs Fantasy happening waay too early
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
July 06 2009 07:07 GMT
#44
bisu vs fantas would have been a great final ~
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
July 06 2009 07:08 GMT
#45
Some extremely good matches coming up. Can't wait for ro16!
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 06 2009 08:18 GMT
#46
Very nice recap of the MSL. I enjoyed reading it.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
July 06 2009 08:23 GMT
#47
Very nice writeup!
Thanks Hot_bid.Im getting there to understand it :D
one question thou:They gonna play one game this week and then next week 1 or 2 game it its needed since its bo3?
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
July 06 2009 08:50 GMT
#48
Predictions! Based on nothing but my gut, of course:

(P)Pure > (Z)ZerO
--There's something about Zero's play that I just don't trust...
(Z)EffOrt > (T)UpMaGiC
--This could get ugly.
(T)Canata > (T)PianO
--Canata finally breaks through!... Maybe.
(T)fantasy > (P)Bisu
--Fantasy cruises; Bisu smiles in disbelief.
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Kal
--Kal won't roll over, but he will get rolled regardless.
(Z)Kwanro > (T)Flash
--A bandwagon upset pick? No, I just like Kwanro
(T)Iris > (T)Hwasin
--Good to see Iris back in form.
(Z)Calm > (T)fOrGG
--Guardians will be used.

Flash/Kwanro should be the best series.
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 06 2009 09:14 GMT
#49
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 06 2009 10:21 GMT
#50
I hope that JD and Flash get's knocked out..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 06 2009 14:19 GMT
#51
On July 06 2009 09:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 09:11 fishyjoes wrote:
Hot_Bit you are my hero! :D Your writeups are always awesome.

Thanks for the kind words, but honestly I'm not very satisfied with these writeups, because you can't do in depth analysis or make funny or creative comments about them because there's just too many games. Nobody is going to read recaps and analysis of 40 games in the Ro32, its just too much. That's why I'm trying to summarize as quickly as possible and keep everyone up to speed until the Ro16 onward, when it becomes much more fun to be a newswriter.


Your right L

but your write ups for the next games will be epic for sure
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
July 06 2009 15:09 GMT
#52
NaDa and sAviOr
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 06 2009 16:16 GMT
#53
On July 06 2009 13:10 reincremate wrote:
I predict ForGG vs Flash in the semifinals and ForGG vs Jaedong rematch in the finals, despite ForGG's lackluster play. Basically Arena MSL part 2. I base this prediction on absolutely nothing.


Good because there's no way in a million years ForGG reaches the finals
beep boop
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 06 2009 16:37 GMT
#54
On July 06 2009 18:14 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.


Well you have to admit that Fantasy's TvZ > Flash's TvZ nowadays. TvZ was never Flash's strong matchup anyway. But I think Fantasy's TvP = Flash's TvP. And Flash's TvT > Fantasy's TvT.
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MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
July 06 2009 16:47 GMT
#55
Conclusion of the Avalon Ro32:

SAvior has lost his balls!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 06 2009 17:26 GMT
#56
I really don't get how jaedong won vs movie with his unit comp at mid game TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
July 06 2009 17:31 GMT
#57
EffOrt takes his first title t.t
Entusman #51
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
July 06 2009 17:59 GMT
#58
On July 07 2009 01:37 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 18:14 samachking wrote:
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.


Well you have to admit that Fantasy's TvZ > Flash's TvZ nowadays. TvZ was never Flash's strong matchup anyway. But I think Fantasy's TvP = Flash's TvP. And Flash's TvT > Fantasy's TvT.


TvT: Flash > Fantasy
TvZ: Fantasy > Flash (TvZ is always the bane of Flash in individual leagues, whereas Fantasy thrives on it.)
TvP: Fantasy > Flash (Top protosses can and do take advantage of Flash's predictability. He needs to reinvent his TvP asap.)

At this moment in time I think Fantasy is more dangerous than Flash. He's quite capable of playing against Bisu on even footing. This deserves to be a semifinals match, it's too bad it will only be Ro16.

May the BeSt man win.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
July 06 2009 18:14 GMT
#59
Calm vs Forgg...guardians will be used? Lol if by guardians you mean 2 hatch lurkers or 2/3 hatch speedling then ya. I personally forgg will show calm who the pretender is in this series, though based on current level of play Calm should be favored, but its TvZ if it gets to late game forgg is definitely the favorite. I think at the end of the series we see forgg walking away with the V and his theme song, most likely to be eliminated in the next round.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
July 06 2009 19:08 GMT
#60
thanks for the writeup, enjoyed it a lot... fantasy will roll over bisu but im also afraid that somehow Jaedong is gonna lose to Kal, let's hope not!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
July 06 2009 22:56 GMT
#61
On July 06 2009 09:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 09:11 fishyjoes wrote:
Hot_Bit you are my hero! :D Your writeups are always awesome.

Thanks for the kind words, but honestly I'm not very satisfied with these writeups, because you can't do in depth analysis or make funny or creative comments about them because there's just too many games. Nobody is going to read recaps and analysis of 40 games in the Ro32, its just too much. That's why I'm trying to summarize as quickly as possible and keep everyone up to speed until the Ro16 onward, when it becomes much more fun to be a newswriter.


No man! The write up fully serves its purpose. It has a short recap of every single game played in Ro32, so everybody can keep up without watching hours of VODs. If you really want to write more analysis, why don't you just pick out the best 2-3 matches of this Round and make a deeper analysis.

Looking forward to Ro32! So many exciting match ups.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 07 2009 00:34 GMT
#62
On July 07 2009 02:59 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2009 01:37 AzureEye wrote:
On July 06 2009 18:14 samachking wrote:
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.


Well you have to admit that Fantasy's TvZ > Flash's TvZ nowadays. TvZ was never Flash's strong matchup anyway. But I think Fantasy's TvP = Flash's TvP. And Flash's TvT > Fantasy's TvT.


TvT: Flash > Fantasy
TvZ: Fantasy > Flash (TvZ is always the bane of Flash in individual leagues, whereas Fantasy thrives on it.)
TvP: Fantasy > Flash (Top protosses can and do take advantage of Flash's predictability. He needs to reinvent his TvP asap.)

At this moment in time I think Fantasy is more dangerous than Flash. He's quite capable of playing against Bisu on even footing. This deserves to be a semifinals match, it's too bad it will only be Ro16.



I really don't think Fantasy will be "playing against Bisu on even footing"
I think Fantasy is gonna stomp Bisu into the freaking ground.
beep boop
barbahaba0
Profile Joined January 2009
Israel226 Posts
July 07 2009 01:41 GMT
#63
wow
so we can basiclly say jaedong is vs canata / piano in qf
game over dude .... game over!!!!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 07 2009 02:18 GMT
#64
I wouldn't count Kal completely out. He's shown some good stuff lately. But yeah, potential JD vs Canata/Piano Bo5.
Jaedong
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
July 07 2009 02:56 GMT
#65
Lol @ fantasys tvz being better than flash...seriously guys put the pipe down.

TvZ: Flash >> Fantasy
TvT: Flash > Fantasy
TvP: Flash = Fantasy(though fantasy's style is waay cooler)

I dunno how you can say fantasy thrives on TvZ in starleagues...when hes only beaten GGplay, who was utterly caught off guard. and Luxury.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
July 07 2009 04:17 GMT
#66
On July 07 2009 03:14 mog87 wrote:
Calm vs Forgg...guardians will be used? Lol if by guardians you mean 2 hatch lurkers or 2/3 hatch speedling then ya. I personally forgg blah blah blah...


Loling at my light-hearted 4-word prediction was quite uncalled for.
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United States4549 Posts
July 07 2009 05:02 GMT
#67
Ahh thanks for the writeup Hotbid. Loved the summaries esp when I haven't seen most of the games.. Looking forward to future more in depth analyses of hopefully epic games
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
July 07 2009 06:46 GMT
#68
Wow the Horang2 vs Nada game sounds pretty entertaining. I generally root for P in PvT since mech is imba but it's too bad Nada couldn't pull out the win.
Megaginganinja
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1 Post
July 07 2009 11:45 GMT
#69
On July 06 2009 08:28 udgnim wrote:
omg Bisu vs Fantasy rematch

am I reading the ladder right that Bisu vs. Fantasy rematch could lead to a Fantasy vs. Jaedong rematch? Intense left side...
I sense a soul in search of answers....
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
July 07 2009 12:04 GMT
#70
On July 07 2009 20:45 Megaginganinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 08:28 udgnim wrote:
omg Bisu vs Fantasy rematch

am I reading the ladder right that Bisu vs. Fantasy rematch could lead to a Fantasy vs. Jaedong rematch? Intense left side...


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Postaljester
Profile Joined December 2002
United States128 Posts
July 07 2009 14:10 GMT
#71
why does the article writer disrespect all the players on flash's side of the bracket by saying he has a "cake walk"

I think they are all excellent players and there will be many good matches to watch
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