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Broodsport #1

Text byPlexa
February 16th, 2009 06:31 GMT
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Every so often a Liquibition becomes so epic that it transcends all Liquibitions gone before it. When such an event occurs, Liquibition evolves into the Broodsport - the ancient ritual founded centuries ago to determine the greatest fighter in all the land. Broodsport is a separate event from Liquibition and carries a lot more prestige and prize money than it as well. It draws together two of the best players in the world to do battle for our entertainment. Ultimately one fighter will emerge victorious, and will be adorned with appropriate praise and prize.

In Broodsport, there are seven matches played between the two competitors - each game carrying the same importance. All seven games are played and each game won is worth $25. So a player can win up to $175 if he manages to 7-0 his opponent. But Broodsport does not stop there; in addition to the money won in each game, the player who wins the majority of the games will be awarded an extra $100 while the runner up shall be awarded $25 for his efforts. That means if one player manages to 7-0 his opponent they will win a grand total of $275 - that's almost as much as an entire season of Clan League in a simple seven game series. Broodsport does not mess around with prize money; it is the real deal.

The first two combatants in Broodsport are none other than IdrA from CJ Entus and the reigning Liquibition Champion - F91. With such skill gracing our screens this matchup is beyond worthy of becoming the first official Teamliquid Broodsport. F91 is a renowned Chinese Zerg gamer with a style that would make anyone tremble. Indeed, he has taken games off S-Class Progamers and can never be discounted in any series. IdrA on the other hand, is the only foreign progamer playing in Korea - and pride of the USA. With his dead solid mechanics and an extremely orthodox style he makes exceptions for no man; he simply destroys them.

The maps were decided between the players and the TeamLiquid Staff Hierarchy. Each player was able to select one map each, while the remainder were selected by the Staff after vicious debate. The resulting map list is as follows;

Tau Cross

This map was chosen by F91 for use in Broodsport.Tau Cross ushered in a new era of three player maps after Rush-Hour and has been a fan favorite ever since. Its popularity is reflected in the fact that KeSPA is reusing the map in the 2008-09 Shinhan Proleague. Tau Cross is typically seen as a Zerg favored map, but reflects statistical balance for TvZ in the proscene.

Tau Cross has a simple layout and wide open spaces for effective flanking. It also has a strong economic focus and thus favors macro based play - yet it is not restrictive in this sense. Tau Cross allows for virtually any play style to be utilized on this map ranging from SK Terran to 3 Factory Tank and 2 Hatch mutalisk, Guardians or even all out macro Zerg. The map is one of the few maps that allow such diversity within a matchup and should provide an excellent battleground for Broodsport


Sin Chupung-Ryeong

Sin Chupung-Ryeong was chosen by IdrA for use in Broodsport. Chupung is one of the latest generation of maps to emerge from the KeSPA laboratory and has been a highly successful map in both Proleague and OSL.The map has been described by Artosis as "a map which looks like a Terran player got mad at Peaks of Baekdu and bashed it into a form where he can actually win a game". Sin Chupung-Ryeong statistically favors Terran over Zerg.

The map features 3 very secure expansions which are wrapped around by high jungle to create very narrow chokes leading into the expansions. The map encourages a strong economic play style. At the same time, however, there are a number of backdoors and places for hidden proxies which allows for some very interesting builds to be created and indeed the exploitation of greedy play styles.


Andromeda

Andromeda was one of the staple maps for the 2008 season and has endured through over 200 games already. Andromeda was a map picked by the TeamLiquid staff. Andromeda features a highly simplistic layout with islands at 12 and 6, and very easy to secure expansions. It also has a very wide open center which allows for easy flanking and great maneuverability.

Andromeda is unique as it encourages players to double expand very quickly as it has very easy to defend natural expansions. Because of this, Andromeda tends to create long games with both sides utilizing the full tech tree. Although the map statistically favors Terran over Zerg, many TvZ's end up as prolonged battles between incredible Marine/Medic macro and plague/ultralisk and as a result many of the best games from 2008 were on this map.


Raid-Assault 2

Raid-Assault 2 was another map brought back from past seasons to become a part of the Proleague map pool for 2008. Raid-Assault 2 was chosen by the Teamliquid staff. Raid-Assault has an unusual design which makes for quirky play. The mains are located in the middle of their respective halves of the map - or rather in the middle of the figure '8' apparent in the map's design. The map is considered balanced for TvZ.

Raid-Assault, unlike the other maps thus far, favors less macro-oriented play which results in tense micro games. Because of the short aerial distance between the mains, Wraith vs Mutalisk wars are not uncommon and indeed one such battle resulted in epic ensnares winning the game for Zerg. The quirky design of this map should make for a vastly different style of game compared to the other maps and thus will make an excellent game four in the series.


Colosseum II

Colosseum II is one of the three Courage maps at the moment and was chosen by the TeamLiquid staff. Colosseum II offers a unique terrain, probably inspired by the ancient Plains to Hill map. Moving beyond the unique natural formation leads us to a relatively standard central design which allows for mass unit battles to take place with ease - and allows for players to flank with ease.

Colosseum II does have a T>Z bias but with F91's unpredictable play style anything can happen on this map. The natural layout is prime for Zerg cheese - from sunken rushes to fast mutalisks. On top of that, Terrans tend to mech on Colosseum so they are typically even more vulnerable to early game shenanigans. This map is one of the staple maps of the current progaming scene, and Broodsport would not be complete without it.


Destination

Destiantion is one of the three Courage maps at the moment and was chosen by the TeamLiquid staff. Destination is currently the most popular map in existence right now and is being played everywhere. Despite the fact it's been around for one season less than the likes of Andromeda, it has already accumulated over 220 games played on this map. It truly is the defining map of this generation.

Despite the heavy Terran bias, Destination tends to produce fairly entertaining TvZ's. There are many options open to Terran, but all strategies usually converge to some variation of mech. Zerg, on the other hand, have a careful balancing act to play in not over expanding and producing the correct unit ratio to effectively counter the Terran forces. Because this map has been played so much, expect to see the highest quality of game on this map.


Medusa

Medusa is one of the three Courage maps at the moment and was chosen by the TeamLiquid staff. Medusa is one of the rare few maps which is a beautiful marriage between ingenuity and playability. The design of the Medusa main is the main feature of this map, more specifically the back entrance blocked by 10 stacked Temples. There are two mineral blocks outside which allow workers to "jump" into the back entrance and scout around.

Ever since fantasy popularized his build, Mech has been the optimal weapon for Terrans against Zerg and yet the statistics yield a Zerg bias in the matchup. The wide open space in the middle of the map works well for any macro Zerg as it allows a lot of room for flanking, and the Temples allow for great strategic play. This will be an excellent map to end the series on.


So get fired up, this matchup promises to be one of the most epic series ever streamed by TeamLiquid. And indeed we are streaming this event on the 21st at 17:00 CET. Now that is 11:00am EST, 8:00am PST, 1:00am KST (Sunday) and 12:00am (Sunday) Chinese time. Your hosts for this event will be none other than the mighty Chill and Plexa. We will guide you through this matchup and hopefully you will come out better informed than when you went in.

The Matchup
(T)IdrA < Tau Cross > [image loading]
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F91
(T)IdrA < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > [image loading]
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F91
(T)IdrA < Andromeda > [image loading]
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F91
(T)IdrA < Raid-Assault > [image loading]
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F91
(T)IdrA < Colosseum II > [image loading]
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F91
(T)IdrA < Destination > [image loading]
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F91
(T)IdrA < Medusa > [image loading]
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F91

So who's going to take this series?
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Poll: IdrA vs F91
(Vote): 7-0
(Vote): 6-1
(Vote): 5-2
(Vote): 4-3
(Vote): 3-4
(Vote): 2-5
(Vote): 1-6
(Vote): 0-7
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 16 2009 06:33 GMT
#2
excited for this, especially for writing the battle reports.

Greg Fighting!
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Manbear
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada306 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 06:37:24
February 16 2009 06:36 GMT
#3
so is it like renamed broodsport now?

EDIT
Greg Van damme fighting!!
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
February 16 2009 06:42 GMT
#4
Shaping up to be a great event! Thanks
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 16 2009 06:42 GMT
#5
It's a special type of liquibition called broodsport
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
February 16 2009 06:43 GMT
#6
AWSUM
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
February 16 2009 06:45 GMT
#7
holy shit. i just came
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
February 16 2009 06:46 GMT
#8
YAYZ
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EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
February 16 2009 06:50 GMT
#9
comon greg you can do it!
I'm like, the coolest
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
February 16 2009 06:52 GMT
#10
voted 6-1, idra will lose to some sort of innovative cheese on one map
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 06:54:58
February 16 2009 06:53 GMT
#11
WTF is with all the Terran favored maps...1 Zerg Bias, 3 Terran bias, 2 Terran extreme bias, and 1 even? D:
TranslatorBaa!
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
February 16 2009 06:55 GMT
#12
im really hyped for this... I wanna see Idras improvement.. and wher the fuck is zxk3 s image :O
w/e
khy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States475 Posts
February 16 2009 06:57 GMT
#13
GREG VAN DAMME YES AHAHA

IdrA fighting! Hope of America, go!
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 07:23:17
February 16 2009 07:00 GMT
#14
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(zxk3)

needs to be on page 1
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checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
February 16 2009 07:00 GMT
#15
Idra FTW
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QuickSandSlowly
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
China95 Posts
February 16 2009 07:00 GMT
#16
On February 16 2009 15:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
WTF is with all the Terran favored maps...1 Zerg Bias, 3 Terran bias, 2 Terran extreme bias, and 1 even? D:

jijibulei ggplay
NathanSC
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States620 Posts
February 16 2009 07:03 GMT
#17
Um, grand total of $300.

$25 * 7 = $175
$175 + $100 first place + $25 consolation = $300

srsly
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
February 16 2009 07:03 GMT
#18
2 zerg bias, 2 terran bias, and the current courage maps (the maps they both play the most)

way better than random maps F91 hardly ever plays
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 16 2009 07:04 GMT
#19
Oh yeah, oh yeeeeah I'm so excited!

Broodsport was just damn clever sah!
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 07:06:15
February 16 2009 07:06 GMT
#20
On February 16 2009 16:03 ret wrote:
2 zerg bias


Uh, what? Medusa is Zerg bias, and the other Zerg favored one is 23-25. Aka, not biased, even.
TranslatorBaa!
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
February 16 2009 07:09 GMT
#21
8:00 am is awfully early...

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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
February 16 2009 07:09 GMT
#22
On February 16 2009 16:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2009 16:03 ret wrote:
2 zerg bias


Uh, what? Medusa is Zerg bias, and the other Zerg favored one is 23-25. Aka, not biased, even.


F91 chose tau cross. I'm sure that means he believes it gives him an edge.
Steve-F
Profile Joined February 2009
Denmark19 Posts
February 16 2009 07:10 GMT
#23
interesting ! Great
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
February 16 2009 07:11 GMT
#24
True, but it's still balanced statistically. Not much for us to go on besides numbers.
TranslatorBaa!
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
February 16 2009 07:15 GMT
#25
just finished reading the OP, great job

now that i see the prize details, big thanks to TL for rummaging the cash together to put on this event. this matchup deserves it.

go idra!
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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
February 16 2009 07:19 GMT
#26
idra is on CJ, nuff said
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 07:19:56
February 16 2009 07:19 GMT
#27
But yeah, despite the Terran bias, I support this map pool (Raid Assault! FTW!) with the exception of Destination. Too much crap happens on that map T_T

Looking forward to this ^^
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
February 16 2009 07:31 GMT
#28
noice.

6-1 for idra, gogo!
UNFUCK YOURSELF
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
February 16 2009 07:33 GMT
#29
IdrA has got this!!

CJ!
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
February 16 2009 07:42 GMT
#30
Great job Team Liquid! No other site would even dream of putting together such an epic series!!
This is real life, where nerds must battle!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 16 2009 07:43 GMT
#31
GL IdrA! Thanks for setting this up as usual, Plexa.
✌
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 16 2009 07:45 GMT
#32
Nice. Chill and Plexa commentating, this will be awesome!

Go IdrA!
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Roxen000
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
1226 Posts
February 16 2009 07:45 GMT
#33
Hmmm 3am on a sunday. Sure why not. :D
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Native
Profile Joined October 2007
Poland105 Posts
February 16 2009 07:49 GMT
#34
F91 5:2 or 6:1. Zerg powah
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
February 16 2009 07:53 GMT
#35
so 1am on the 21st?...

I'm guessing you mean Sunday 1am in Korea? and Saturday in Europe/US. at the moment it's on 'friday night'

Awesome series though! can't wait
: o )
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 16 2009 07:53 GMT
#36
This is going to be so great.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 16 2009 07:58 GMT
#37
On February 16 2009 16:03 NathanSC wrote:
Um, grand total of $300.

$25 * 7 = $175
$175 + $100 first place + $25 consolation = $300

srsly
yes $300 in total, $275 possible for one player to win
On February 16 2009 15:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
WTF is with all the Terran favored maps...1 Zerg Bias, 3 Terran bias, 2 Terran extreme bias, and 1 even? D:
On February 16 2009 16:03 ret wrote:
2 zerg bias, 2 terran bias, and the current courage maps (the maps they both play the most)

way better than random maps F91 hardly ever plays
Like ret said, we could have chosen the statistically most balanced maps but they wouldn't have practiced them in ages. The courage maps will produce the best games even though they are slightly terran favoring; don't blame us for that though, blame korea.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 16 2009 08:01 GMT
#38
I'm not sure if IdrA was it who said that map statistics are not that useful anyways, because lots of games are played by S-Class pros etc. The majority of players doesn't even play in individual leagues and the proleague.

I'm looking forward to this. Go 7-0 Greg!!
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liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
February 16 2009 08:01 GMT
#39
Woot, IDra Fighting!!!! show us your Terran Steel!!!!!!!
I feel like pwning noobs
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
February 16 2009 08:03 GMT
#40
Can't wait!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 11:07:35
February 16 2009 08:15 GMT
#41
I think that's a lot of Terran-favored maps.

edit: Sorry, I didn't see the explanation until after I posted.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
February 16 2009 08:22 GMT
#42
On February 16 2009 17:15 meegrean wrote:
I think that's a lot of Terran-favored maps.


i think this was explained like 5 posts ago
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
February 16 2009 08:33 GMT
#43
This is the most exciting showmatch since elky vs blackman ....

I think f91's mechanics have gotten sick, but greg has how many other pro gamers he can literally say "What is the best build on this map or that map vs this or that"

I voted idra 5/2, but wouldn't be at all shocked to see it reversed.

The question really is what type of mech will greg prepare and what type of aggression will f91 prepare ... those are unaccountable variables imo.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 16 2009 08:36 GMT
#44
This will be sweet. I don't know who is going to win, but it's going to be epic.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
February 16 2009 08:50 GMT
#45
TvZ = my favorite matchup,

This will indeed be sweet.
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
February 16 2009 08:50 GMT
#46
Cool event. High hopes for Bloodsport #1!
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vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
February 16 2009 08:55 GMT
#47
Sorry IdrA, but I believe F91 is some kind of god damn machine, along with the rest of Fnatic.

F91 7 - 0 IdrA
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
February 16 2009 09:03 GMT
#48
Apparently IdrA's TvZ is at progamer level now.

7-0 for him.
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Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
February 16 2009 09:36 GMT
#49
10 bucks says F91 opens with 3hat lings
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FlamyDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Netherlands146 Posts
February 16 2009 09:36 GMT
#50
Idra will probably fail to deliver like usual :/
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
February 16 2009 09:50 GMT
#51
On February 16 2009 18:36 FlamyDeath wrote:
Idra will probably fail to deliver like usual :/

I am not good with quotes
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
February 16 2009 09:56 GMT
#52
On February 16 2009 18:36 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
10 bucks says F91 opens with 3hat lings

20 says he goes 2 hatch lings
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number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 10:49:17
February 16 2009 10:48 GMT
#53
So, one map that Idra chose, so you'll know he'll be good on, plus three maps from courage that he probably plays exclusively in practice that you know he'll be good on? Which means at least Idra gets 4 wins ez mode?

Looking good for the Tiger Eyes terran huh?

Edit: this has nothing to do with balance, but how experienced greg will be on these maps.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 16 2009 11:02 GMT
#54
On February 16 2009 19:48 number1gog wrote:
So, one map that Idra chose, so you'll know he'll be good on, plus three maps from courage that he probably plays exclusively in practice that you know he'll be good on? Which means at least Idra gets 4 wins ez mode?

Looking good for the Tiger Eyes terran huh?

Edit: this has nothing to do with balance, but how experienced greg will be on these maps.

Because you think that F91 trains on LT, Hunters and Dire Strait ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 16 2009 11:06 GMT
#55
On February 16 2009 18:56 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2009 18:36 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
10 bucks says F91 opens with 3hat lings

20 says he goes 2 hatch lings


30 says 1 hatch lings
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
February 16 2009 11:27 GMT
#56
omg..i jizzed in my pants
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 16 2009 11:30 GMT
#57
On February 16 2009 19:48 number1gog wrote:
So, one map that Idra chose, so you'll know he'll be good on, plus three maps from courage that he probably plays exclusively in practice that you know he'll be good on? Which means at least Idra gets 4 wins ez mode?

Looking good for the Tiger Eyes terran huh?

Edit: this has nothing to do with balance, but how experienced greg will be on these maps.

The three courage maps are the most played maps in existence right now - both players will know these maps inside and out
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Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 11:39:29
February 16 2009 11:38 GMT
#58
On February 16 2009 20:06 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2009 18:56 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On February 16 2009 18:36 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
10 bucks says F91 opens with 3hat lings

20 says he goes 2 hatch lings


30 says 1 hatch lings


ye
9pool is the way to go

edit; very nice event, waiting for the reps already.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
February 16 2009 12:00 GMT
#59
5 more days to go...
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 12:55:49
February 16 2009 12:55 GMT
#60
ROARRRR GREG MEIISSTTEERRRRRRR!

TO BATTLE AND VICTOORRYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

Time for the MILLS OF CARNAGE to be unfolded.
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hsoul
Profile Joined September 2007
Netherlands26 Posts
February 16 2009 13:03 GMT
#61
F91
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
February 16 2009 13:20 GMT
#62
For the sake of entertainment I hope they're great games, but at the same time I kind of hope Idra will 7-0, and commandingly earn everyone's lost Nonylove as the foreigner's last hope.
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
February 16 2009 13:29 GMT
#63
Really looking forward to thsi ^^ GO IDRA!!!
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Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
February 16 2009 13:41 GMT
#64
will be really good games no matter who wins
frostynine
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden53 Posts
February 16 2009 13:58 GMT
#65
I think it'll be pretty close. 4-3, Idra taking the last game.
ichimarugin680
Profile Joined February 2009
United States182 Posts
February 16 2009 14:06 GMT
#66
Liquibet f91 do ur best idra
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
February 16 2009 14:25 GMT
#67
Man this is going to be awesomeness placed in a bottle and opend up for each and every one of us to drink!
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2rhyme
Profile Joined July 2007
Romania79 Posts
February 16 2009 14:42 GMT
#68
F91 ezzz
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
February 16 2009 14:59 GMT
#69
I'll be somewhat surprised if Idra wins ... 2-5 is my guess. Maybe 3-4.
done
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany70 Posts
February 16 2009 15:12 GMT
#70
wtf maps heavily favour t over z for sure...still Idra sucks so badly at bw, that i believe everthing besides 7-0 in favour of F91 would be an upset..just my opinion!
gogo F91 crush this nerdy nerd
wh1te
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden4 Posts
February 16 2009 15:16 GMT
#71
Idra will most probably crush F91
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
February 16 2009 15:25 GMT
#72
Go Idra! 7-0 this chump!
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 16 2009 15:30 GMT
#73
IdrA 4-3 epic matches gg~
Peace~
Love.Zelduck
Profile Joined February 2008
United States170 Posts
February 16 2009 16:10 GMT
#74
On February 16 2009 18:50 s.a.y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2009 18:36 FlamyDeath wrote:
Idra will probably fail to deliver like usual :/


Screw you guys.
IdrA FIGHTING!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
February 16 2009 16:22 GMT
#75
Almost no info about these 2 guys :<
Ill go with F91, still.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Flopgun
Profile Joined August 2005
Germany274 Posts
February 16 2009 16:37 GMT
#76
F91 fighting!!
Jaedong fighting
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1302 Posts
February 16 2009 16:50 GMT
#77
2008 was marked by the lack of TvZ, now with the new Zerg Powerhouses and the Winners League Playstyle we had lods of them in the past weeks .. but 7 epic TvZ (best matchup for spectators!) in a row will just be incredible! Gonna gather everyone and buy some popcorn (-:
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
February 16 2009 16:57 GMT
#78
I really doubt that F91 will take more than a couple games.

b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
February 16 2009 17:07 GMT
#79
F91 4-3.
i believe!
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 16 2009 17:08 GMT
#80
[quote] The map has been described by Artosis as "a map which looks like a Terran player got mad at Peaks of Baekdu and bashed it into a form where he can actually win a game."[/quote

LOOOOOOOOOL
Looks great guys! will watch for sure. IdrA 5-2.
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pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5390 Posts
February 16 2009 17:31 GMT
#81
remember kids eat all your veggies!
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
February 16 2009 17:39 GMT
#82
I read the title as Bloodspurt for the longest time. ><
Jaedong
AnWh
Profile Joined April 2004
Sweden220 Posts
February 16 2009 18:00 GMT
#83
I love you Plexa.

I really do.
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
February 16 2009 18:35 GMT
#84
f91 gogo! zerg power.
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
February 16 2009 18:48 GMT
#85
8 A.M is....bleh but w\e. At least its not as bad as Gom
morfyy
Profile Joined May 2007
Romania593 Posts
February 16 2009 18:52 GMT
#86
go Idra
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
February 16 2009 18:59 GMT
#87
Replays?
F91
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand77 Posts
February 16 2009 19:05 GMT
#88
W
O
W
fong0r is a infested terran in disguise
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
February 16 2009 19:13 GMT
#89
On February 17 2009 02:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I read the title as Bloodspurt for the longest time. ><


I thought it was bloodsport, since the text is in a bloody red i was pretty certain guess not though.
OMG you nasty gurl
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
February 16 2009 19:23 GMT
#90
CMON IDRA MAKE DAT MONEY
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Sourdough
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany92 Posts
February 16 2009 19:40 GMT
#91
Really looking forward to this. Way to force seven games.

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"Lets get it on!"
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
February 16 2009 19:55 GMT
#92
On February 16 2009 20:06 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2009 18:56 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On February 16 2009 18:36 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
10 bucks says F91 opens with 3hat lings

20 says he goes 2 hatch lings


30 says 1 hatch lings


40 says 0 hatch lings... o wait, nevermind
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
February 16 2009 20:12 GMT
#93
On February 17 2009 00:12 done wrote:
wtf maps heavily favour t over z for sure...still Idra sucks so badly at bw, that i believe everthing besides 7-0 in favour of F91 would be an upset..just my opinion!
gogo F91 crush this nerdy nerd



Every player at the top of the scene (our scene the non korean) puts idra as a top player. I think most of the zergs admit to getting crushed by him or him being good ....

Why talk shit .... ?
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 16 2009 20:59 GMT
#94
On February 17 2009 04:55 Not_Computer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2009 20:06 Zoler wrote:
On February 16 2009 18:56 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On February 16 2009 18:36 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
10 bucks says F91 opens with 3hat lings

20 says he goes 2 hatch lings


30 says 1 hatch lings


40 says 0 hatch lings... o wait, nevermind


50 says -1 hatch lings
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2898 Posts
February 16 2009 21:20 GMT
#95
Gregory Fields FTW
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
February 16 2009 21:33 GMT
#96
On February 17 2009 05:12 AttackZerg wrote:
I think most of the zergs admit to getting crushed by him or him being good ....


F91 is also a top player though, and damn, he plays good Starcraft.

I just don't think Idra can stand up to the best Zerg in China, and arguably the best Starcraft player in China.
TranslatorBaa!
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
February 16 2009 21:35 GMT
#97
On February 17 2009 06:20 G5 wrote:
Gregory Fields FTW

konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
CaStrO
Profile Joined April 2008
Peru136 Posts
February 16 2009 21:44 GMT
#98
wow nice match F91 win sure
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
February 16 2009 22:07 GMT
#99
yeah unless idra finally got some skills outta korea he is going to get buttraped by f91...
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
February 16 2009 22:08 GMT
#100
6-1, Raid-Assault will beat Idra.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
February 16 2009 22:23 GMT
#101
I'm pumped for this. I hope that nothing else in my life gets in the way so that I can watch this.
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SiMPL
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia94 Posts
February 16 2009 23:04 GMT
#102
Idra's tvz is progamer level.

I dont really know F91 but for sure any zerg player will have some trouble vs this particular terran.
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
February 16 2009 23:23 GMT
#103
Awesome possum, awesome possum.
Super serious.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
February 16 2009 23:58 GMT
#104
On February 17 2009 06:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 05:12 AttackZerg wrote:
I think most of the zergs admit to getting crushed by him or him being good ....


F91 is also a top player though, and damn, he plays good Starcraft.

I just don't think Idra can stand up to the best Zerg in China, and arguably the best Starcraft player in China.


I for sure think he can. Idra just plays such a consistent style that it'll be hard for any aggressive "non-standard," if you will, Zerg player to beat him. I think F91's risky play style is going to hurt him tremendously.
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Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
February 17 2009 00:05 GMT
#105
On February 17 2009 08:58 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 06:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On February 17 2009 05:12 AttackZerg wrote:
I think most of the zergs admit to getting crushed by him or him being good ....


F91 is also a top player though, and damn, he plays good Starcraft.

I just don't think Idra can stand up to the best Zerg in China, and arguably the best Starcraft player in China.


I for sure think he can. Idra just plays such a consistent style that it'll be hard for any aggressive "non-standard," if you will, Zerg player to beat him. I think F91's risky play style is going to hurt him tremendously.

I'm not so sure about that. Maybe IdrA has gotten a lot better since I last saw him, but it seems in most of the games I watch where he loses, he suffers some serious damage from a "stupid" cheese that hurts him so bad he can't win. The last time this happened was in Spirit, when Fenix did a quick DT drop and eventually went on to beat him.
Super serious.
Scooge
Profile Joined December 2008
Iceland144 Posts
February 17 2009 00:32 GMT
#106
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.

Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 17 2009 00:47 GMT
#107
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.
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Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
February 17 2009 01:07 GMT
#108
On February 17 2009 09:05 Centric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 08:58 Empyrean wrote:
On February 17 2009 06:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On February 17 2009 05:12 AttackZerg wrote:
I think most of the zergs admit to getting crushed by him or him being good ....


F91 is also a top player though, and damn, he plays good Starcraft.

I just don't think Idra can stand up to the best Zerg in China, and arguably the best Starcraft player in China.


I for sure think he can. Idra just plays such a consistent style that it'll be hard for any aggressive "non-standard," if you will, Zerg player to beat him. I think F91's risky play style is going to hurt him tremendously.

I'm not so sure about that. Maybe IdrA has gotten a lot better since I last saw him, but it seems in most of the games I watch where he loses, he suffers some serious damage from a "stupid" cheese that hurts him so bad he can't win. The last time this happened was in Spirit, when Fenix did a quick DT drop and eventually went on to beat him.

I agree, I think cheesey style play is IdrA's weakness, which makes F91 an especially fearsome opponent
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Scooge
Profile Joined December 2008
Iceland144 Posts
February 17 2009 01:13 GMT
#109
On February 17 2009 09:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.


You're being evasive about the question. There's no reason to get technical about it. When people say pro-gamer level they mean he's able to compete with A team pro-gamers. That he's as good as the players on televised games. Being on a pro team doesn't make you have pro-gamer level skills. There are a lot of practice partners and B team members on every pro team. True Idra is a licensed pro-gamer, but that doesn't mean much, not even factoring in his license was gifted to him and not from passing Courage.

omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
February 17 2009 01:20 GMT
#110
+ Show Spoiler +
f91 is going to embarrass many of you.
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
February 17 2009 01:52 GMT
#111
Man I have SAT stuff that day.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 02:27:03
February 17 2009 02:22 GMT
#112
On February 17 2009 10:13 Scooge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 09:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.


You're being evasive about the question. There's no reason to get technical about it. When people say pro-gamer level they mean he's able to compete with A team pro-gamers. That he's as good as the players on televised games. Being on a pro team doesn't make you have pro-gamer level skills. There are a lot of practice partners and B team members on every pro team. True Idra is a licensed pro-gamer, but that doesn't mean much, not even factoring in his license was gifted to him and not from passing Courage.


I dont know about A team but he has taken games off other z pros.
2-0 Yellow in blizzcon and 1-2 vs some zerg on gom and the game he won it was really one sided. Yellow took a game off nada so im pretty sure yellow is still decent.

I dont think idra is weak against agressive allin builds. Look at his series vs yellow. Yellow went 2 hatch muta into guardian and 2 hatch speedling and idra defended both off well. And this was a few months so im pretty sure he improved a lot from then after practicing 8+ hours everyday.

The only problem Idra probably has is with his nerves on high stages but since this isnt on a stage or anything he should do fine.

I really dont understand why everyone downplays that he got his license without passing courage. You guys make it seem estro gave it to idra free of charge.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
February 17 2009 02:23 GMT
#113
F91 is going to go to town. That said, I'm sure there will be some sick games and Idra will certainly take a couple.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
February 17 2009 02:26 GMT
#114
I voted 5-2, F91's favor.
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KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
February 17 2009 02:26 GMT
#115
You can't mech on Colosseum. Period.
RIP eSTRO :(
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 17 2009 02:34 GMT
#116
On February 17 2009 11:26 KnightOfNi wrote:
You can't mech on Colosseum. Period.

Light begs to differ
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x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
February 17 2009 02:44 GMT
#117
lol all the korean training in the world an american gets cant stop a chinese. look wat happened to nony: it sent him home...rip
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
February 17 2009 03:17 GMT
#118
On February 17 2009 11:26 KnightOfNi wrote:
You can't mech on Colosseum. Period.

wtf? colosseum is an awesome map for mech.
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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
February 17 2009 03:47 GMT
#119
hahah how can you not mech on Col?

what exactly is bad about it?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
February 17 2009 03:56 GMT
#120
On February 17 2009 11:26 KnightOfNi wrote:
You can't mech on Colosseum. Period.

You can wall, easily defendible 3rd gas?
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
February 17 2009 05:33 GMT
#121
Go Idra show them how pro gamers roll
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 06:06:04
February 17 2009 06:05 GMT
#122
On February 16 2009 15:57 Darrun wrote:
GREG VAN DAMME YES AHAHA

IdrA fighting! Hope of America, go!



Lol, this post is funny and wrong on so many levels. Idra will take this one easily though. Korea practice > Chinese practice.

PS. reason I found this funny is because anytime I hear Van Damn and America in the same sentence, I picture. Guile.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
February 17 2009 06:33 GMT
#123
On February 17 2009 11:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I voted 5-2, F91's favor.
I was more generous
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
February 17 2009 08:25 GMT
#124
Where does TL get money for cash prices?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 17 2009 14:39 GMT
#125
I seriously seriously cannot wait.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
February 17 2009 16:53 GMT
#126
On February 17 2009 17:25 nosliw wrote:
Where does TL get money for cash prices?



overseas drug trade, thats what this site really is a front for, not some silly old ass pc game.
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
February 17 2009 17:50 GMT
#127
On February 17 2009 11:26 KnightOfNi wrote:
You can't mech on Colosseum. Period.

..... No comment for that one
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
February 17 2009 21:30 GMT
#128
Maybe if Idra wins here, people will finally lay off of him.
Myrkul
Profile Joined February 2009
Croatia132 Posts
February 17 2009 22:51 GMT
#129
if Idra loses this how in gods name can he be considered progamer material? he said he's training 12 hours a day, first with estro and now with CJ for what has to be 3-4 months now (correct me if i'm wrong here), if he can't take a Bo7 against a foreigner (even though F91 probably is the best foreigner right now) then seriously wtf, so i think added preasure on him for sure, cause if i was CJ, and he lost this i'd get rid of him, Korean BW/international marketing or not.. my 2 cents anyway..
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 23:25:20
February 17 2009 23:24 GMT
#130
On February 18 2009 07:51 Myrkul wrote:
if Idra loses this how in gods name can he be considered progamer material? he said he's training 12 hours a day, first with estro and now with CJ for what has to be 3-4 months now (correct me if i'm wrong here), if he can't take a Bo7 against a foreigner (even though F91 probably is the best foreigner right now) then seriously wtf, so i think added preasure on him for sure, cause if i was CJ, and he lost this i'd get rid of him, Korean BW/international marketing or not.. my 2 cents anyway..
Do you really think that CJ cares about a bo7 played between two relatively insignificant foreigners? B-team pros are the same level as top foreigners: we've already seen that in the Spirit Tournament.


Here's what I think: if you were the CJ coach, you would kick him off because you don't like him.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
February 18 2009 02:55 GMT
#131
On February 17 2009 11:26 KnightOfNi wrote:
You can't mech on Colosseum. Period.

I can't tell if he is being serious or is trolling.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
February 18 2009 03:35 GMT
#132
So because a few good non-koreans beat a few b-teamers, one of which (the castro game) was the guys first day in the korean house .... all of a sudden the entire community thinks there is an equality there? ..... bullshit. Bullshit.bulllyshittyy for real guys its bullshit. Comparing a few unprofessional gamers to an entire industry of b-teamers is stupid.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
February 18 2009 05:52 GMT
#133
The Engrish title is amazing hahaha
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 18 2009 08:16 GMT
#134
On February 17 2009 10:13 Scooge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 09:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.


You're being evasive about the question. There's no reason to get technical about it. When people say pro-gamer level they mean he's able to compete with A team pro-gamers. That he's as good as the players on televised games. Being on a pro team doesn't make you have pro-gamer level skills. There are a lot of practice partners and B team members on every pro team. True Idra is a licensed pro-gamer, but that doesn't mean much, not even factoring in his license was gifted to him and not from passing Courage.


No? Progamer level means that he can take games off B-level progamers. Nobody mentioned a-class or anything like that, ever. Progamer-level means that he can take games off people with progamer licenses. Many progamers don't play televised games, but they still are progamers and, yes, progamer level.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
LJR
Profile Joined December 2008
Russian Federation2 Posts
February 18 2009 10:29 GMT
#135
Idra lose PLZ =) F91 gogogo my frends GL
Like play is StarCraft...
Myrkul
Profile Joined February 2009
Croatia132 Posts
February 18 2009 11:56 GMT
#136
On February 18 2009 08:24 Zozma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 07:51 Myrkul wrote:
if Idra loses this how in gods name can he be considered progamer material? he said he's training 12 hours a day, first with estro and now with CJ for what has to be 3-4 months now (correct me if i'm wrong here), if he can't take a Bo7 against a foreigner (even though F91 probably is the best foreigner right now) then seriously wtf, so i think added preasure on him for sure, cause if i was CJ, and he lost this i'd get rid of him, Korean BW/international marketing or not.. my 2 cents anyway..
Do you really think that CJ cares about a bo7 played between two relatively insignificant foreigners? B-team pros are the same level as top foreigners: we've already seen that in the Spirit Tournament.


Here's what I think: if you were the CJ coach, you would kick him off because you don't like him.


it is true i'm not an Idra fan, but i dont think i'm being biased here. It has been known to happen that foreigners take games off pro's, but a Bo7? imho a guy who goes to Korea, stays there for a relatively long time(focuses all of his ability and attention on the game, has ppl who have been playing it for a living for years there to learn from, and other ppl coaching him proffesionally), and then loses to a guy in a Bo7 who probably wasnt playing 10+ hours a day everyday for the past 3-4 months, and certainly had inferior training and practice partners, then that guy (Idra) is not a guy who should be thinking about a career in starcraft (unless F91 proves to be another NaDa or smth). i'm saying all of this cause i think Idra's gonna lose, if i'm wrong about this then obviously this post is meaningles.
anyway good luck to both and i hope we're in for an exciting series
July = best goddamn zvp in this part of the universe
Synneby
Profile Joined October 2005
Sweden61 Posts
February 18 2009 13:41 GMT
#137
The statistics are kind of fun. More ppl think Idra is going to win then lose the bo7, but MORE ppl think f91 is going to do an 7-0 then that Idra is going to do one. Seems like ppl only voted that to bash Idra. Mature for sure.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5558 Posts
February 18 2009 17:52 GMT
#138
Statements by the players ("The Players" section):

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/portals.php?show=news&news_id=456096

BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
February 18 2009 18:28 GMT
#139
Will there be reps available?
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
February 18 2009 18:58 GMT
#140
im so excited about this event. it will be awesome.
Boxer is the truth.
Scooge
Profile Joined December 2008
Iceland144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-18 19:20:39
February 18 2009 19:16 GMT
#141
On February 18 2009 17:16 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 10:13 Scooge wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.


You're being evasive about the question. There's no reason to get technical about it. When people say pro-gamer level they mean he's able to compete with A team pro-gamers. That he's as good as the players on televised games. Being on a pro team doesn't make you have pro-gamer level skills. There are a lot of practice partners and B team members on every pro team. True Idra is a licensed pro-gamer, but that doesn't mean much, not even factoring in his license was gifted to him and not from passing Courage.


No? Progamer level means that he can take games off B-level progamers. Nobody mentioned a-class or anything like that, ever. Progamer-level means that he can take games off people with progamer licenses. Many progamers don't play televised games, but they still are progamers and, yes, progamer level.


Woo, I guess every top foreigner is pro-gamer level then. They can, and have, all beat B-team members.

Pro-gaming license means nothing. Each team can gift them to anyone. If KTF gave me a pro-gamer license (because coach loves me), am I pro-gamer level or do I just have a worthless license? Think a little.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-18 19:26:02
February 18 2009 19:25 GMT
#142
On February 19 2009 04:16 Scooge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 17:16 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 10:13 Scooge wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.


You're being evasive about the question. There's no reason to get technical about it. When people say pro-gamer level they mean he's able to compete with A team pro-gamers. That he's as good as the players on televised games. Being on a pro team doesn't make you have pro-gamer level skills. There are a lot of practice partners and B team members on every pro team. True Idra is a licensed pro-gamer, but that doesn't mean much, not even factoring in his license was gifted to him and not from passing Courage.


No? Progamer level means that he can take games off B-level progamers. Nobody mentioned a-class or anything like that, ever. Progamer-level means that he can take games off people with progamer licenses. Many progamers don't play televised games, but they still are progamers and, yes, progamer level.


Woo, I guess every top foreigner is pro-gamer level then. They can, and have, all beat B-team members.

Pro-gaming license means nothing. Each team can gift them to anyone. If KTF gave me a pro-gamer license (because coach loves me), am I pro-gamer level or do I just have a worthless license? Think a little.

Pro-gaming license is not "worthless", a team can give out only 2 a year so wasting them is certainly not something they do regularly.
1030xxx
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia62 Posts
February 18 2009 20:24 GMT
#143
F91 4:3 Idra~~~~~~~~~
Well, Idra is better than Nony........
So, 4:3 for F91.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
February 18 2009 21:12 GMT
#144
On February 19 2009 05:24 1030xxx wrote:
F91 4:3 Idra~~~~~~~~~
Well, Idra is better than Nony........
So, 4:3 for F91.


or not :D

i think it will be 6-1 or 5-2 in favor of F91

he is #218 on the iccup ladder.

he got balls.
I am not good with quotes
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
February 18 2009 21:47 GMT
#145
I'm going for the guy that practices with koreans for 11 hours a day. 5-2 greggory
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
February 18 2009 22:34 GMT
#146
hmm.. F91 isn't really a pushover either
..IDrA will prolly take it 4-3 or 5-2 with F91 taking a game here and there

.....
cw)minsean(ru
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
February 18 2009 22:35 GMT
#147
On February 19 2009 06:47 Comeh wrote:
I'm going for the guy that practices with koreans for 11 hours a day. 5-2 greggory


really.
11 hours a day?
70 or so hours a week
...
cw)minsean(ru
tteou
Profile Joined January 2009
China8 Posts
February 18 2009 22:36 GMT
#148
Go F91!
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
February 18 2009 23:12 GMT
#149
Woot, time for IdrA to show us what he learned, and his sexy muscles ^^.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
February 18 2009 23:26 GMT
#150
On February 19 2009 04:16 Scooge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 17:16 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 10:13 Scooge wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.


You're being evasive about the question. There's no reason to get technical about it. When people say pro-gamer level they mean he's able to compete with A team pro-gamers. That he's as good as the players on televised games. Being on a pro team doesn't make you have pro-gamer level skills. There are a lot of practice partners and B team members on every pro team. True Idra is a licensed pro-gamer, but that doesn't mean much, not even factoring in his license was gifted to him and not from passing Courage.


No? Progamer level means that he can take games off B-level progamers. Nobody mentioned a-class or anything like that, ever. Progamer-level means that he can take games off people with progamer licenses. Many progamers don't play televised games, but they still are progamers and, yes, progamer level.


Woo, I guess every top foreigner is pro-gamer level then. They can, and have, all beat B-team members.

Pro-gaming license means nothing. Each team can gift them to anyone. If KTF gave me a pro-gamer license (because coach loves me), am I pro-gamer level or do I just have a worthless license? Think a little.
Good luck convincing KTF to give you a license.

There are A-team progamers and B-team progamers.

We know that Idra is B-team progamer quality. He plays with B-team progamers all day, and, we can assume, holds his own.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 05:32:28
February 19 2009 05:28 GMT
#151
Picked F91. Sorry Idra.

I think you're too counterable. The more you play standard games against the same opponent, the easier it is for your opponent to find a comfort zone against you.

Then again, I don't really know what I'm talking about sense I haven't seen much of Idra's play recently. Looking forward to it.


Sidenote: A big lol at the pointless semantics bullshit arguments going on here about "what is progamer level". Both these guys are good. Really fucking good. Enough said.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Deleted User 39582
Profile Joined August 2008
317 Posts
February 19 2009 06:57 GMT
#152
so unfair
late on Saturday night im going to be seeing chick corea live
why cant i watch both ;_;
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
February 19 2009 09:58 GMT
#153
On February 19 2009 15:57 QuasiMachina wrote:
so unfair
late on Saturday night im going to be seeing chick corea live
why cant i watch both ;_;


you can watch unspoiled vods of games, chich corea is much better choice for the evening
I am not good with quotes
aLmOst
Profile Joined January 2009
United States13 Posts
February 19 2009 13:02 GMT
#154
IdrA should win... Just more pressure for him and he'll choke so hopefully he does well Gogo
trying to get my d wet
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
February 19 2009 13:33 GMT
#155
Unless Idras playstyle has changed drasticly i think he's going to be exploited by f91 quite heavily, he needs to stop playing so passively and just waiting on opponents to make misstake. I don't believe that sort of strategy works at this high level, you need to take control of your game to win it, not always count on your opponent to make a misstake.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
February 19 2009 22:36 GMT
#156
i want idra to win overall but id like to see lots of close games rather than someone getting steamrolled, so maybe a 4-3 in favour of idra?
HEY MEYT
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 23:38:36
February 19 2009 23:38 GMT
#157
On February 19 2009 08:26 Zozma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 04:16 Scooge wrote:
On February 18 2009 17:16 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 10:13 Scooge wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.


You're being evasive about the question. There's no reason to get technical about it. When people say pro-gamer level they mean he's able to compete with A team pro-gamers. That he's as good as the players on televised games. Being on a pro team doesn't make you have pro-gamer level skills. There are a lot of practice partners and B team members on every pro team. True Idra is a licensed pro-gamer, but that doesn't mean much, not even factoring in his license was gifted to him and not from passing Courage.


No? Progamer level means that he can take games off B-level progamers. Nobody mentioned a-class or anything like that, ever. Progamer-level means that he can take games off people with progamer licenses. Many progamers don't play televised games, but they still are progamers and, yes, progamer level.


Woo, I guess every top foreigner is pro-gamer level then. They can, and have, all beat B-team members.

Pro-gaming license means nothing. Each team can gift them to anyone. If KTF gave me a pro-gamer license (because coach loves me), am I pro-gamer level or do I just have a worthless license? Think a little.
Good luck convincing KTF to give you a license.

There are A-team progamers and B-team progamers.

We know that Idra is B-team progamer quality. He plays with B-team progamers all day, and, we can assume, holds his own.


He holds his own against estro's B-team we know, since he had to beat half of them during an in-house tournament to get his license. Once he got a license, CJ poached him because they thought he had potential from his games vs Stork and didn't have to worry about him getting a license. I really hope Idra has gotten better after 1 year of training. It would be awesome if he made A-team benchwarmer this year.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
February 20 2009 11:42 GMT
#158
On February 20 2009 08:38 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 08:26 Zozma wrote:
On February 19 2009 04:16 Scooge wrote:
On February 18 2009 17:16 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 10:13 Scooge wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.


You're being evasive about the question. There's no reason to get technical about it. When people say pro-gamer level they mean he's able to compete with A team pro-gamers. That he's as good as the players on televised games. Being on a pro team doesn't make you have pro-gamer level skills. There are a lot of practice partners and B team members on every pro team. True Idra is a licensed pro-gamer, but that doesn't mean much, not even factoring in his license was gifted to him and not from passing Courage.


No? Progamer level means that he can take games off B-level progamers. Nobody mentioned a-class or anything like that, ever. Progamer-level means that he can take games off people with progamer licenses. Many progamers don't play televised games, but they still are progamers and, yes, progamer level.


Woo, I guess every top foreigner is pro-gamer level then. They can, and have, all beat B-team members.

Pro-gaming license means nothing. Each team can gift them to anyone. If KTF gave me a pro-gamer license (because coach loves me), am I pro-gamer level or do I just have a worthless license? Think a little.
Good luck convincing KTF to give you a license.

There are A-team progamers and B-team progamers.

We know that Idra is B-team progamer quality. He plays with B-team progamers all day, and, we can assume, holds his own.


He holds his own against estro's B-team we know, since he had to beat half of them during an in-house tournament to get his license. Once he got a license, CJ poached him because they thought he had potential from his games vs Stork and didn't have to worry about him getting a license. I really hope Idra has gotten better after 1 year of training. It would be awesome if he made A-team benchwarmer this year.


I would love to somehow see him as a TvZ sniper this year.
Commentator
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
February 20 2009 14:02 GMT
#159
When I read this thread yesterday I could've sworn it said "bloodsport"...
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
February 20 2009 18:59 GMT
#160
I am so fucking psyched for this liquibition. Holy shit good lord oh my god gee wilikers!
Chains none
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-20 20:11:45
February 20 2009 20:10 GMT
#161
On February 20 2009 20:42 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2009 08:38 Zzoram wrote:
On February 19 2009 08:26 Zozma wrote:
On February 19 2009 04:16 Scooge wrote:
On February 18 2009 17:16 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 10:13 Scooge wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 17 2009 09:32 Scooge wrote:
Where are you people getting this "pro-gamer level TvZ" from? Has there been decent games of Idra released lately or is this just based on that one comment by Artosis? Everything besides Artosis's comment points to Idra being less than pro-gamer level at TvZ (to put it nicely), and Artosis might be a little bias considering he's Idra's friend and clanmate and his website has a stake in seeing Idra do well in Korea.


He's a progamer, hence his TvZ is progamer level. That's like trying to defute the statement "Idra plays as well as Idra.". It just defines itself.


You're being evasive about the question. There's no reason to get technical about it. When people say pro-gamer level they mean he's able to compete with A team pro-gamers. That he's as good as the players on televised games. Being on a pro team doesn't make you have pro-gamer level skills. There are a lot of practice partners and B team members on every pro team. True Idra is a licensed pro-gamer, but that doesn't mean much, not even factoring in his license was gifted to him and not from passing Courage.


No? Progamer level means that he can take games off B-level progamers. Nobody mentioned a-class or anything like that, ever. Progamer-level means that he can take games off people with progamer licenses. Many progamers don't play televised games, but they still are progamers and, yes, progamer level.


Woo, I guess every top foreigner is pro-gamer level then. They can, and have, all beat B-team members.

Pro-gaming license means nothing. Each team can gift them to anyone. If KTF gave me a pro-gamer license (because coach loves me), am I pro-gamer level or do I just have a worthless license? Think a little.
Good luck convincing KTF to give you a license.

There are A-team progamers and B-team progamers.

We know that Idra is B-team progamer quality. He plays with B-team progamers all day, and, we can assume, holds his own.


He holds his own against estro's B-team we know, since he had to beat half of them during an in-house tournament to get his license. Once he got a license, CJ poached him because they thought he had potential from his games vs Stork and didn't have to worry about him getting a license. I really hope Idra has gotten better after 1 year of training. It would be awesome if he made A-team benchwarmer this year.


I would love to somehow see him as a TvZ sniper this year.


Ah, now you've got me all excited to see how good his TvZ might be. Would be really awesome to see him try to snipe Jaedong or something during one of the next proleague rounds.

Someday!
BW forever || Thall
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
February 20 2009 21:33 GMT
#162
Zomg it's at the same time as ICCUP Clan league. sMi. will be going vs Fnatic though so I'll just get owned 0-2 real fast by some Chinese gosu and then come watch!
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 20 2009 22:38 GMT
#163
I wonder if he will play mech or mm in the majority of the games
And all is illuminated.
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
February 20 2009 23:27 GMT
#164
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 16 2009 16:00 a-game wrote:
[image loading]
(zxk3)

needs to be on page 1


Best tattoo EVER.
This series should be pretty intense, I'm glad I'll be able to catch it.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
February 21 2009 01:13 GMT
#165
I will actually get up @ 8am for this, that is how excited I am for it.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 03:12:50
February 21 2009 03:12 GMT
#166
omfg....this btr be on VODS.

cuz i cant watch this...
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
February 21 2009 05:41 GMT
#167
Idra has this
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 21 2009 07:40 GMT
#168
On February 21 2009 07:38 freelander wrote:
I wonder if he will play mech or mm in the majority of the games


Considering the last time we saw him play TvZ, his mm is good and what he prefers.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
February 21 2009 09:09 GMT
#169
Ok...

So I've done some thinking.

If f91 thinking in terms of highest win %.

Then he should open 2 hat lurker -> 3 base at least twice. 3 hat before pool on a 4 player map.

And 5pool.

Thats 4 games that he can give himself at least a 50/50 BO shot at winning + 3 games of his standard (whatever that is)

Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 12:37:30
February 21 2009 12:36 GMT
#170
REKRUL AS GUEST COMMENTATOR PLEASE

I get constant orgasms while listening to his manly voice
I3oxerfan
Profile Joined January 2008
215 Posts
February 21 2009 13:04 GMT
#171
Will there bee a live stream?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 21 2009 13:28 GMT
#172
Of course!!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
I3oxerfan
Profile Joined January 2008
215 Posts
February 21 2009 13:48 GMT
#173
@ Plexa.

Link pls
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 21 2009 13:51 GMT
#174
Will be released once green bar reaches zero
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
I3oxerfan
Profile Joined January 2008
215 Posts
February 21 2009 13:56 GMT
#175
thx
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
February 21 2009 14:51 GMT
#176
1h left and ski jumping is at the same time.
I am fucked :/
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
February 21 2009 14:53 GMT
#177
ah, so still time for the.mentalist.s01e15.hdtv.xvid-xor.avi

One ring, to rule them all!
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
February 21 2009 15:13 GMT
#178
is this being streamed anywhere?
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Killer Instinct
Profile Joined December 2008
Romania159 Posts
February 21 2009 15:31 GMT
#179
On February 21 2009 22:51 Plexa wrote:
Will be released once green bar reaches zero


+30mins delays
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
February 21 2009 15:36 GMT
#180
Will replays still be released? Just curious because IdrA is a progamer and what not
It's better to burn out than to fade away
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
February 21 2009 15:46 GMT
#181
So, with standard 15 minutes delay, it'll start in 30 minutes.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
February 21 2009 15:49 GMT
#182
As long as it doesn't get delayed till tomorrow
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
JOBY Protoss
Profile Joined December 2003
Romania36 Posts
February 21 2009 15:56 GMT
#183
It's a free and high quality show...so one shouldn't care about any delay...
I am a three dimensions body trapping a single dimension soul.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
February 21 2009 15:57 GMT
#184
i will need live reports, i'm on a limited connection
I am not good with quotes
StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
February 21 2009 15:58 GMT
#185
JOBY we care about a delay cause when there isnt a delay bad things happen O_O DUN DUN DUN!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
February 21 2009 15:58 GMT
#186
EFF
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FIVE
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
February 21 2009 16:01 GMT
#187
LEEEEEET'S GET READY TO RUUUUUMBLE!!
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GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
February 21 2009 16:01 GMT
#188
STREAMLINK (
EffOrt[fOu] & Hyvaa[S.G] <3 :D
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
February 21 2009 16:01 GMT
#189
F5F5F5
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
February 21 2009 16:01 GMT
#190
give link!!!
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
February 21 2009 16:01 GMT
#191
GIVE ME LINK !!!!!!!!! O_o
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drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
February 21 2009 16:02 GMT
#192
i love the tension before the stream link is up
One must feel chaos within, to give birth to a dancing star.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
February 21 2009 16:02 GMT
#193
F5 spam
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Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
February 21 2009 16:02 GMT
#194
F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
February 21 2009 16:02 GMT
#195
wtf says stream is live! i want the link soooo badddd
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
February 21 2009 16:02 GMT
#196
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shafiru
Profile Joined January 2009
111 Posts
February 21 2009 16:02 GMT
#197
F5555555555555
bengaliToss ftw...
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
February 21 2009 16:02 GMT
#198
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88257

Go there for the stream link.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
February 21 2009 16:03 GMT
#199
wtf LINK FAIL? Cheers
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
DrKN
Profile Joined September 2008
Sweden130 Posts
February 21 2009 16:03 GMT
#200
lol wrong thread o,o
GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
February 21 2009 16:04 GMT
#201
On February 22 2009 01:02 poilord wrote:
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GOGOGOGOGOGOGOOGOGOGOGOOG
EffOrt[fOu] & Hyvaa[S.G] <3 :D
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
February 21 2009 16:04 GMT
#202
On February 22 2009 01:02 Lenwe wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88257

Go there for the stream link.

thx
One must feel chaos within, to give birth to a dancing star.
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
February 21 2009 16:05 GMT
#203
YAY TENSION MUSIC
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 21 2009 16:45 GMT
#204
wtf
And all is illuminated.
jonnosferatu
Profile Joined February 2009
United States22 Posts
February 21 2009 17:01 GMT
#205
Noooooooooo....stream stop.
lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
February 21 2009 18:29 GMT
#206
Ah, BM at its finest: No GG =)
Flying Tushin!!
HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
February 21 2009 20:15 GMT
#207
Go Idra vs Europe? ;D
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
February 22 2009 02:02 GMT
#208
So are all the Liquibitions going to be called Broodsport now? Like, is F91 v Strelok going to be Broodsport #2? And do we have an estimated date for that yet? ^^
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 22 2009 03:53 GMT
#209
No, F91 vs Strelok will be Liquibition #28
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
February 22 2009 03:58 GMT
#210
cool, look forward to it
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 22 2009 04:18 GMT
#211
On February 22 2009 11:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So are all the Liquibitions going to be called Broodsport now? Like, is F91 v Strelok going to be Broodsport #2? And do we have an estimated date for that yet? ^^
The F91 vs IdrA match was an exhibition match outside of the regular King of the Hill style Liquibition series, because IdrA couldn't commit to playing more than 1 series (in case he won, this needed to be established beforehand), so it was given special name (Liquibition Broodsport instead of Liquibition).

Like Plexa said the normal Liquibition series will continue with F91 vs Strelok.

We may use the Liquibition Broodsport again in the future for special 1 time matches that don't count towards regular Liquibition.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
February 22 2009 06:58 GMT
#212
This Broodsport has been great fun, I'll be very excited if this comes around again.

Again, thanks to TL.net for hosting this great event!
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