Nice job. I like Nony alot and allways have due to his playstyle. He's a korean style player with solid basic skill instead of relying on tactics like many other foreigners. Tactics can allways be incorporated into play while mechanics and stuff like that takes longer to learn. I'll get really dissapointed if he doesn't get to korea.

You also touched on the reason today I've shunned being active in a starcraft community online allthough I've followed pro gaming since the reign of Boxer. The starcraft community is filled with unjustified hatred towards anything and everything. It's strange but Polish people hate Nony and Savior fans hate Firebat Hero. It's not because of some reason you don't know about like hotbid is saying. It's about being a fanboy. Many polish people are Draco fanboys and thus hate everything that remotely critical to draco in any way. Much like fanboys in the console gaming industry these people are totally blinded by their fanboyism and lash out at anything that threatens the santified holy state of their divine subject.

People really need to stop hating others that they don't know shit about over the internet. If someone kills or rapes one of your family members you will probably hate that person. If someone steals your car and sets your house on fire leaving you with nothing you will probably hate him. But you don't hate someone for dancing on TV and you don't hate someone for being confident when they are doing well. I DISLIKE Chalrenge because I think he has an arrogant and mocking behavior (much like FBH) but he doesn't show humbleness when he loses like FBH. He's seems interested in looking "cool" when he wins and beocomes angry or sad everytime he loses in comparison to FBH who does humiliate people when he wins but he can also take being humiliated himself without being bitter about it.Therefore I DISLIKE Chalrenges personality but I still respect his skill and the fact that he is a proleague player of skill unmatched by anyone in the foreign community. All in all, I don't hate him. Some people really need to take a step back from their tunnel vision blinded view and get some perspective. This is a televised computer game, it's not a crime wave or world war 3. Don't hate people.

404.Nintu

Canada1723 Posts

October 14 2008 07:05 GMT

#67

Haven't listened yet but I LOVE these podcasts so far! PLEASE keep making them. =D

isbunk

Sweden1017 Posts

October 14 2008 08:24 GMT

#68

NonY 2 eStro!

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

October 14 2008 10:43 GMT

#69

Chill was disappointed in me

fuck you too for not being the nazi-strat-forum-mod i know you as

Krzycho

Poland442 Posts

October 14 2008 11:21 GMT

#70

Send it to blizzard (sc2 part ).

skyglow1

New Zealand3962 Posts

October 14 2008 11:27 GMT

#71

On October 14 2008 19:43 Plexa wrote:
Chill was disappointed in me

fuck you too for not being the nazi-strat-forum-mod i know you as

Lol at you being a total cam whore. I never knew!

Aesop

Hungary11305 Posts

October 14 2008 12:15 GMT

#72

On October 14 2008 19:43 Plexa wrote:
Chill was disappointed in me

fuck you too for not being the nazi-strat-forum-mod i know you as

I think he was rather complimenting your amazing writing and that rubbed off on his expectation in real life.

And: Nony is so cool.

Splunge

Germany925 Posts

October 14 2008 13:12 GMT

#73

A really entertaining potcast! Keep it going!

StarBrift

Sweden1761 Posts

October 14 2008 14:56 GMT

#74

I realise that in my long windedness in my last post I forgot to praise Chill and Hotbid for the good work on this episode. You both have a natural talent for casting and that really shows in these podcasts where you have so many subjects to talk about but still manage to keep the pace up and make it interesting.

Piy

Scotland3152 Posts

October 14 2008 15:26 GMT

#75

Lol, thats exactly how I practice builds.

Chef

10810 Posts

October 14 2008 17:32 GMT

#76

On October 14 2008 15:23 StarBrift wrote:
Nice job. I like Nony alot and allways have due to his playstyle. He's a korean style player with solid basic skill instead of relying on tactics like many other foreigners. Tactics can allways be incorporated into play while mechanics and stuff like that takes longer to learn. I'll get really dissapointed if he doesn't get to korea.

You also touched on the reason today I've shunned being active in a starcraft community online allthough I've followed pro gaming since the reign of Boxer. The starcraft community is filled with unjustified hatred towards anything and everything. It's strange but Polish people hate Nony and Savior fans hate Firebat Hero. It's not because of some reason you don't know about like hotbid is saying. It's about being a fanboy. Many polish people are Draco fanboys and thus hate everything that remotely critical to draco in any way. Much like fanboys in the console gaming industry these people are totally blinded by their fanboyism and lash out at anything that threatens the santified holy state of their divine subject.

People really need to stop hating others that they don't know shit about over the internet. If someone kills or rapes one of your family members you will probably hate that person. If someone steals your car and sets your house on fire leaving you with nothing you will probably hate him. But you don't hate someone for dancing on TV and you don't hate someone for being confident when they are doing well. I DISLIKE Chalrenge because I think he has an arrogant and mocking behavior (much like FBH) but he doesn't show humbleness when he loses like FBH. He's seems interested in looking "cool" when he wins and beocomes angry or sad everytime he loses in comparison to FBH who does humiliate people when he wins but he can also take being humiliated himself without being bitter about it.Therefore I DISLIKE Chalrenges personality but I still respect his skill and the fact that he is a proleague player of skill unmatched by anyone in the foreign community. All in all, I don't hate him. Some people really need to take a step back from their tunnel vision blinded view and get some perspective. This is a televised computer game, it's not a crime wave or world war 3. Don't hate people.

I think that's unfair to say. These people will always be the loudest and most obnoxious, but they don't represent the majority of the community. I'm a Savior fan, and I love firebathero. I know a lot of other Savior fans do too. I'm sure that even those who do claim to hate FBH are just getting into the scene and the drama, because that's what excites them. I don't see genuine hate in anyone intelligent who visits these forums.

It'd be like shying away from hockey because certain players are unpopular with everyone but fans of the team they play for... It's no big deal, and a lot of people when they get down to it and talk seriously will say that they appreciate the players skill and role, they just don't like that he's a threat to their team's victories. Take Chris Neil for example... Only Senators fans like him, because he's a fighter and his main role in the game is to fuck players on the other team up. You can argue whether Hockey should or shouldn't be so much about fighting, but as it is now he's just doing what he's supposed to given the current spirit of the game. It's still justified not to like him when he's injuring your players.

What I'm saying is... Being outspoken and heckling players is all part of the game. There are very few who genuinely hate the players. If there were so many, I'd have been lynched already for wearing Yashin's name on a new SENS jersey to several games. The most I ever get is someone going "Yashin?!! But why!" No one's ever threatened me.

Hot_Bid

Braavos36401 Posts

October 14 2008 17:42 GMT

#77

you are not a real savior fan if you also love firebathero, its like cheering for the yankees and the red sox or ohio state and michigan all at once. you just don't do it. fbh-savior is not a rivalry like yellow boxer where they are all buddy buddy outside the booths. savior and the entire cj team hates fbh. you can't be a hardcore fan of both given their history.

i acknowledge FBH's skill level and boldness in the last MSL group and recognize what he brings (entertainment value) to progaming, but will never ever say i love him or cheer for him. if you are a real savior fan you would remember the disrespect during gomtv2