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Draco will roll over Nony if he doesn't get a little more creative with his BOs. I say 3-1 for Draco, but I don't really care who wins as long as we have great games.
Let's not forget to send some PM's to Hot_Bid like we did last time. That was so nice of the commentators to remind us to give him our appreciation.
But yea, I'm hoping NonY will go FTW cuz' of the mouse I might possibly receive. Although, I wonder how many people chose him to win cuz only 3 Destructor Mats will be given and if 200 people or more voted for Nony I'm probably not going to get one anyway.
Anyone know why it doesn't work for me? I've tried watching the stream from within the website (both Firefox and IE), tried GomPlayer, and VLC.
Error for GomPlayer: Cannot connect to the streaming server. Make sure you are connected to the internet and you're not blocked by a firewall, then try again.
Error code: 0x00000071
Errors for VLC after multiple tries: Unable to open 'mmsh://stream3.tsl.teamliquid.net:20000/' Unable to open 'mmsh://stream2.tsl.teamliquid.net:10000/' Unable to open 'mmsh://stream7.tsl.teamliquid.net:20000/' Unable to open 'mmsh://stream2.tsl.teamliquid.net:20000/'
edit: It worked fine for me two weeks ago, but these errors starting happening last week. I don't want to miss this semifinal like I did those quarterfinals.
This is the first time I'm watching the TSL live, and I am EXTREMELY impressed with the level of proffesionalism as well as just how nice the whole thing looks and works.
1st time I watch TSL live, I only watched VODs before. And the quality/resolution is AWESOME! Waaaaaaay better than OSL or MSL. I have it fullscreen on my huge flat-screen TV and ther is not a stray pixel in sight.
Nah it was more his strategic/intuition that pulled ahead.
Little things like holding back on getting the third gas early or counterattacking immediately after nony lost the shuttle helped him fortify a good momentum to gain a late game economic advantage.
On May 25 2008 06:16 pokerface wrote: Geez day's voice is aweful...this is the first and only thing that i can complain about.And i dont know why had to change but chill+artosis was great.
On May 25 2008 06:24 Jyvblamo wrote: I think Nony missed a pylon or something last game, there was really no reason that he should have been 10-20 supply behind Draco early on.
Nony made less probes and opened up 1gate robo vs. Draco's 2gate robo
OMFG! Never ever have I seen a protoss loose THAT many reaver + shuttles in a single game and match over and over again and again. Jesus why the heck did I wote for him?? Argh...
Also nony must be hating 1) shuttles and 2) reavers bugging out when attacking from certain angles. Nony is a blue storm god tho, nony fighting!!!!!!!!!
This is so sad. I expected a better game from Nony. Don't worry Nony, you could have done better, but there's always the next TSL. Let's see if Nony can win the last match, match #3.
the storm drop wouldn't have mattered anyway. surprised to see that draco is so dominant in mid- to lategame. seeing that draco scouts so early nony's only chance are timing pushes and he already tried those twice. looking like 3-0 right now.
On May 25 2008 06:43 FrozenArbiter wrote: Nony choking sooooooooo hard T_T Playing sooooooooooooooo good early game then falls apart. Draco being very zen, experience is good I guess.
Nony really really deserved this game and many times over, I really hope he wins game 3 at least.
Nony didn't really choke, he just got too aggressive. This is exactly the opposite of what happened in game 1 of the series, where Draco made the smarter decision by moving out about halfway across the map after winning a major battle to pressure Nony into cutting probes and then retreating and instead placing 2 expos to secure the mid-game lead.
NonY forget shuttles,reavers and HTs plz!they abandoned you those f**kers!They are not reliable!Hope it's not going to end now.You can equalize it.gogogo
Draco has such a psychological advantage now, i don't think he'll lose an other game. Nony has the skill and potential perhaps, but Draco just looks so much superior in the micro department. Considering circumstances, he nearly played perfect.
draco is just exploiting this skill gap.... sure nony may get some small leads but draco is playing safe and knowing the best player will win which he has so far 2-0....
draco just always seems to be so far ahead economy wise, its like he invests a lot more into probes early on which pays off for him in mid-late, and yeah, his experience clearly is an advantage too
On May 25 2008 06:47 radar14 wrote: it looks like nony should look to take more bases when he feels he has the advantage instead of attacking into draco's airtight defense
Nony's super aggressive style seems to almost win it for him early twice but Draco's superior micro and "sense" wins it for him later (as in when to expo, when to sit back and widen the gap, etc). Nony doesn't seem to be able to play the "sit back and macro" game, like he's compelled to just attack attack attack even when it's really disadvantageous to do so.
On May 25 2008 06:50 ret wrote: draco seems to come into the mid game way stronger.....nony must be cutting a lot of probes?
Yes definitely, which also ties into what I said above...Nony just plays a really aggressive style and Draco's style seems to be the "counter" to it...just defend, let your aggressive opponent who can't adapt waste his army repeatedly, widen an economic gap, and then rape. Nony has more units than Draco but Draco has 20 more pop, which means Draco has a ton more probes and because he's always in the defensive position can win the fights that Nony insists on delivering...and then when he expos afterwards he has the probes he needs to get that expo running immediately.
Maybe he should have killed his exp instead of trying to finish him off with those goons at Draco's base.As seen on the minimap he had his exp up so he would have an advantage?
On May 25 2008 06:50 ret wrote: draco seems to come into the mid game way stronger.....nony must be cutting a lot of probes?
I think it's because Draco took a super aggressive 3rd way faster than Nony and Nony doesn't realize it. You must be right but I find it really hard to believe that Nony stops building probes during mid game.
"puts on his tin-foil hat" Its clearly a conspiracy! Either Nony or Draco got so badly humiliated game 3 that they are DDoSing the streams so they can't show us the games!
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes
Posting it once, fair enough.
Posting it five times on a completely new account is just asking for a ban. Then you can create a new account and whine about how people are not allowed to speak out their feelings.
On May 25 2008 06:50 klizzer wrote: Nony deserved that game tho. Draco's probe micro was a really good highlight of this game.
Well, nony made a noob mistake by entering deep. He had 2 better options but did the worst.
1) After killing off Dracos goons, back off and continually kill off new goons and probes coming at him. 2) Kill Dracos expansion. Draco did not have a shuttle anymore, so no reavers or goons or drones would save it. Back off and expand/tech win. 3) forcefully go for the kill with injured goons into a position which can easily be surrounded by goons.
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes
Wasn't Draco being kinda arrogant too when he claimed that he wasn't practicing much??
I don't think either of them are arrogant. Why would Draco feel the need to lie in an interview? He's already been top of the foreign scene for years and been to Korea and back. It's not like he needs an ego boost or anything, so he's just giving an honest answer.
On May 25 2008 06:54 ydg wrote: crashed. sorta like nony's shuttles.
lol, seriously though, i think nony would have won that first game if he had not lost the shuttle, and the second game, i honestly don't know how he lost it.
On May 25 2008 07:20 Bob123 wrote: Nony deserves losing for his cocky attitude )
There is even more talk about NonY's cockiness than Draco's mechanics. Unbelievable! But Draco has proven himself, and NonY didn't. So I expect to hear about both even more.
Draco just outplayed Nony on every level in this series, especially in decision making. Just wow. I expected a close 3-2 or at least 3-1 result, but man Draco was just so beastly.
even though brat was amazing vs dreiven (especially third game), i don't see how he can beat this monster in the finals! maybe jf can by playing really clever, but so far it seems Draco just handles all "smart" plays constantly in a solid way.
Fantastic matches. Props to Nony, he played really well. I think Draco's experience helped a lot in his strategy and decision making but Nony really showed good multitasking and aggressive attacks.
Edit: The TL staff and commentators that made this happen are of course pro at being able to pull this off so successfully. Artosis is great as usual. Thanks to Day[9] for coming on and being fantastic out of the gate. Thanks to Chill, Manifesto, Yannis and Vaul for the casting on the previous matches (hope I didn't miss any). Top notch!
It looks like Nony couldn't handle the pressure : he made so many unusual mistakes (shuttle snipes, no storm, etc...). I believe he is better than what he showed tonight. Yet Draco is a lot better.
he got good at a very fast rate and thus received a major ego blast coming into this match convinced that he would win... he might be a great player.. but he is far from the best
On May 25 2008 07:31 iLjh wrote: maybe this will teach nony to be more humble
he got good at a very fast rate and thus received a major ego blast coming into this match convinced that he would win... he might be a great player.. but he is far from the best
This match could have been 2:0 in favor of Nony for the first two games if it wasnt for the few mistakes he made and Draco's great micro. I think Draco also had just a little luck on his side.
Draco maybe focussed too much on probes in the early games which cause Nony to have a few more units. That made the games such exciting especially as in both of the first games Draco had a few mistakes in the midgame.
Outside of the mistakes and what not, you could see that even if Nony manages to do succesful stormdrops Draco was never behind economically because he had superior macro, ALWAYS producing probes. He was basically producing probes in the main nexus till the point he only had 3-4 mining pads left in the last game on bluestorm.
Sick..
I bet alot of players envy dracos skill. I think he could get back into pro buisness if he wanted too. Obviously it doesnt look like he does sadly =/
Brat_OK > Draco Mind vs Bisu style 3:1 JF > Nony 3-1
I won't be so sure. Brat have already showed us great TvP, but don't forget that this MU has always been the best for Draco. I don't remember when Draco lost recently with foreign Terran.
On May 25 2008 07:23 ehem wrote: It shows how much Draco is better than any other non korean//china player.
I dont think that Draco is really that better than Mondi / Lx / PJ / prime Testie.
He's not imo, you saw him struggle against oov and Midas in WCG06, Testie held his own against them. Maybe that's not that much proof, but still i think he's around the same level if not worse then them.
On May 25 2008 07:54 St3MoR wrote: i have a serious question, what does Draco want to prove with all this "Retired_" and "i don't train a shit" bullshit?
on topic i feel sorry for Nony, 0-3 was so harsh T_T
Maybe he doesn't want to prove anything (since he's already dominated the foreign scene in the past and even been to Korea) and is just telling the truth. Ever thought of that before calling it "bullshit"? He's basically done with the competitive SC scene and is just playing for the $5K here.
On May 25 2008 07:47 Kyuki wrote: Outside of the mistakes and what not, you could see that even if Nony manages to do succesful stormdrops Draco was never behind economically because he had superior macro, ALWAYS producing probes. He was basically producing probes in the main nexus till the point he only had 3-4 mining pads left in the last game on bluestorm.
Sick..
I bet alot of players envy dracos skill. I think he could get back into pro buisness if he wanted too. Obviously it doesnt look like he does sadly =/
GG nonetheless, great show!
Maybe winning an amount of money equal to the minerals he had at the end of the last game will change his mind :D
If he really doesn't practice or care anymore, he shouldn't even mention it in the first place, cuz obviously It's going to come off as flat out arrogance
Draco isnt so good as at PGL but after 100++ TSL games in ladder stage he cannot anymore be called retired : ) He makes sometimes stupid mistakes but he still knows timings, counter builds and every week he plays better;) I realy dont think that he trains cuz he is studying and atm we have in Poland the sesion with exams :D Mayby he plays some games but not really much.BTW i think Brat will lose tommorow 3:0 cuz iefnaj is a monster in pvt and Brat in his 3:0 vs Driven games doesnt show anythink special. Drop can suprise Driven (his pvt is realy bad:D) but not machine iefnaj toss
Edit: Fu.k i forgott. Nony played today great matches. He show that he is really good. the 2nd game was just ultimate pvp
On May 25 2008 08:01 cuteFayth wrote: If he really doesn't practice or care anymore, he shouldn't even mention it in the first place, cuz obviously It's going to come off as flat out arrogance
Why do you think he mentions it in first place. He just asked a question. I don't know why people don't belive him. "Retired" before nick is a joke in my opinion. Draco arrogant ?? Never.
On May 25 2008 08:01 cuteFayth wrote: If he really doesn't practice or care anymore, he shouldn't even mention it in the first place, cuz obviously It's going to come off as flat out arrogance
Look, this basically started by the TSL interviewer asking him why he has Retired in his name, so of course he's gonna explain it. It's not "obviously" arrogant, because it didn't seem that way to me at all.
TBH i cant really choose which of these games was my favorite The beginning of the first 2 games, i seriously thought Nony could win. Draco was just too good apparently :D
On May 25 2008 08:11 cuteFayth wrote: I didn't read his interview, nor do I care, all I've seen is his TSL description that we could see before matches "-Claims to not practice"
Seemed arrogant to me
Then if you don't even know the story then why do you commentate on him being arrogant and then defend your stance in doing so? Agh, this is pissing me off.
It's not "obviously" arrogant, because it didn't seem that way to me at all.
same shit
Nm.
The TSL people of course want to stir up excitement some grudges between the players and the fans for the preview, which is always neat and makes more people interested in the match. I don't mind that at all.
On May 25 2008 08:19 Uris wrote: wtf? damn it, i always pick a team or a player that loses.
when stork fought flash twice in the osl, he got dismantled....and i was rooting for him
Now the same thing happened with nony, wtf?
this also happens in sports....the recent champions league, i was going for chelsea but fucking terry messed it up.....
damn....
It's because you're bad luck. You should consider not rooting for anyone, or maybe rooting for the person/team you want to lose because maybe you can trick the forces of the universe, but then again they will know what you are up to.
On May 25 2008 08:19 Uris wrote: wtf? damn it, i always pick a team or a player that loses.
when stork fought flash twice in the osl, he got dismantled....and i was rooting for him
Now the same thing happened with nony, wtf?
this also happens in sports....the recent champions league, i was going for chelsea but fucking terry messed it up.....
damn....
It's because you're bad luck. You should consider not rooting for anyone, or maybe rooting for the person/team you want to lose because maybe you can trick the forces of the universe, but then again they will know what you are up to.
On May 25 2008 07:44 radar14 wrote: yes nony is going to change his entire attitude and outlook on life because of one bo5 series
for godsakes people...
stop playing amateur psychiatrist like every other douchebag on a soapbox
why would you want nony to change his attitude? it's a lot funnier with him being arrogant as long as there's people totally raping him. would be a lot more annoying if he actually was as good as mondi & co or even better.
On May 25 2008 07:44 radar14 wrote: yes nony is going to change his entire attitude and outlook on life because of one bo5 series
for godsakes people...
stop playing amateur psychiatrist like every other douchebag on a soapbox
why would you want nony to change his attitude? it's a lot funnier with him being arrogant as long as there's people totally raping him. would be a lot more annoying if he actually was as good as mondi & co or even better.
why the fuck are so many people calling him arrogrant? i just dont get it.
On May 25 2008 07:44 radar14 wrote: yes nony is going to change his entire attitude and outlook on life because of one bo5 series
for godsakes people...
stop playing amateur psychiatrist like every other douchebag on a soapbox
why would you want nony to change his attitude? it's a lot funnier with him being arrogant as long as there's people totally raping him. would be a lot more annoying if he actually was as good as mondi & co or even better.
why the fuck are so many people calling him arrogrant? i just dont get it.
I think they are calling him arrogant because of all the things he said about this match with draco. He was saying that draco is completely beatable and stuff, so people may have perceived that as arrogance. I am not calling him arrogant, just trying to understand why other people are.
This was the only result possible for a good player playing vs a talented player who lived 8 months in Korean training with a progaming team ... i don't understand people wondering
I remind everyone that Draco was ONLY one game away from qualifying for the ODT or Survivor, don't remember now which one.
day9 is an amazing commentator. please bring him back, him and artosis rock together. i love chill's commentary too, but day9 is just so enthusiastic, it's awesome
WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!? PLEASE UPLOAD THE VODS ASAP!, i missed this and just got home... i was not sure if i wanted to know the results.. but i finally gave in and clicked the spoiler link.. what the hell? how did THAT happen? My jaw dropped. Seriously
On May 25 2008 07:44 radar14 wrote: yes nony is going to change his entire attitude and outlook on life because of one bo5 series
for godsakes people...
stop playing amateur psychiatrist like every other douchebag on a soapbox
why would you want nony to change his attitude? it's a lot funnier with him being arrogant as long as there's people totally raping him. would be a lot more annoying if he actually was as good as mondi & co or even better.
why the fuck are so many people calling him arrogrant? i just dont get it.
I think they are calling him arrogant because of all the things he said about this match with draco. He was saying that draco is completely beatable and stuff, so people may have perceived that as arrogance. I am not calling him arrogant, just trying to understand why other people are.
to label saying u can beat someone in sports as arrogant is just stupid imho. i could imagine its a nationalism thing. non americans are often quick to label americans as arrogant, when given the smallest reason.
On May 25 2008 09:52 Senx wrote: WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!? PLEASE UPLOAD THE VODS ASAP!, i missed this and just got home... i was not sure if i wanted to know the results.. but i finally gave in and clicked the spoiler link.. what the hell? how did THAT happen? My jaw dropped. Seriously
Nice games and just perfect commentary. But it would be even nicer if Day fixes his sound ^^
And although 3-0 is dominating, I would not call the games themselves rape. Nony surely had builds and tactics to hurt Draco, but today he lacked that "it" to take it home.
I didn't feel it was a rape at all. Nony had the chance to win in the first game very early on, but he got careless with his vessel and lost those two reavers. The second game he also had a huge advantage early and should have just killed the nexus and held choke. But he got excited and tried to end it quick. Oh well good games anyway.
Wtf Nony fucking HAD the game won in game 2. Why the hell did he decide to go for the kill when he can just sit on the narrow choke and kill Draco's expansion? Omg. And that two reaver/shuttle micro mistake in game 1 cost Nony the game as well. Other than that, great games, great effort by both players. Very nice play from Draco.
On May 25 2008 09:22 IH4t3z3rg wrote: This was the only result possible for a good player playing vs a talented player who lived 8 months in Korean training with a progaming team ... i don't understand people wondering
I remind everyone that Draco was ONLY one game away from qualifying for the ODT or Survivor, don't remember now which one.
This is just an idea for the mods but if the decision on who will commentate on the finals is still up in the air (which I don't know if it's already been decided, maybe it has) make the poll this last week before the finals be for who we want to commentate so the people who will be listening get to decide who they hear.
On May 25 2008 12:17 Jonoman92 wrote: This is just an idea for the mods but if the decision on who will commentate on the finals is still up in the air (which I don't know if it's already been decided, maybe it has) make the poll this last week before the finals be for who we want to commentate so the people who will be listening get to decide who they hear.
Hmm good idea. And the answer: Chill, Artosis, Day
I really like Vaul and Zannis is a cool guy too it seems, but for the finals players with more strategical insight are necessary I think.
i hate to be a detractor after such a high profile match, but i wasn't impressed by draco's play. both games one and two should have gone the other way. it was only two incredible strokes of luck that kept draco in the game past the ten minute mark.
in game one, the shuttle dying with both reavers inside was an enormous fluke, and it was virtually impossible for nony to recover afterward.
in game two, as has been stated, the game was over in all but the 'gg' after nony's dragoons and reavers destroyed draco's army.
it's hard to understand how anyone can be taken by draco's performance when he was rescued in games one and two by hugely improbable strokes of good fortune.
in about 75% of army encounters nony outhandled draco, and nony was also better prepared with build orders and timings for each map. after watching the tightness of nony's mechanics and strategies, and the relatively loose, generic protoss macro play by draco, i don't think the better player won this series.
i would be very surprised to see draco take even a game away from brat if the finals comes to that.
Totally incorrect analysis, in game two Draco's control was insanely better than Nony's, nothing to do with strokes of fortune or flukes, he killed 2 reavers with 1, shot Nony's shuttle several times, outstormed Nony horribly, was eons ahead of Nony such that even if Nony hadn't forgotten the storm for his storm drop it wouldn't have even mattered...Nony's style gets owned pretty hard by Draco's style.
Luck? More like bad play from Nony...don't see how its luck when u target a shuttle and kill it because the person doesn't micro it away in time. Its not like that was the only shuttle he lost during the series either. Nony simply showed he was the less experienced player. He had his chances especially in game 2 but blew it by not containing and later forgetting to research storm. Overall draco showed better micro, macro and decision making in all 3 games. Don't see how a 3-0 can be attributed to "luck" but whatever helps u sleep at night.
btw, draco totally outclassed nony. Nony should've played more conservative and gain advantage with map control, just like draco did in game 1. Game 2 was lololol as how he lost a bunch of goons to bad micro an possibly giving draco a chance to get back in the game. Game 3... no comments, it was great play by both but when nony fell behind it was almost impossible to make a comeback out of it
On May 25 2008 13:43 EnergyTraction wrote: Totally incorrect analysis, in game two Draco's control was insanely better than Nony's, nothing to do with strokes of fortune or flukes, he killed 2 reavers with 1, shot Nony's shuttle several times, outstormed Nony horribly, was eons ahead of Nony such that even if Nony hadn't forgotten the storm for his storm drop it wouldn't have even mattered...Nony's style gets owned pretty hard by Draco's style.
Once the game got going, Draco did outplay Nony in my opinion. However, I'm fairly confident that Nony had the game won when he killed Draco's army and moved into his nat. If Nony had just killed the nat nexus and camped the narrow choke he would have been up a base and up in supply. Then it would have been all kinds of downhill for Draco. Nony played greedy and went for the kill instead of solidifying his advantage and that cost him that win that he practically had in the bag.
I saw that mindset mistake constantly throughout the series. Nony got a little bit of an advantage and instead of solidifying it and widening the gap he went for the kill only to lose his advantage. Then it was just a matter of Draco surviving to let his superior macro kick in and win.
I think the series could have been much closer if Nony was a bit less greedy in his play.
How often do people lose with an expo with reaver against an opponent trapped in their base without an expo??? Or 4 goon advantage IN YOUR OPPONENT'S BASE with more units coming and lose. Reminds me of the NonY vs Mondragon MOTC final game where it was NonY's game to lose. NonY should had been up 2-0, not behind 2. White-ra & Draco are good at maintaining advantages and finishing. NonY wins all the battle, but lose the war .
NonY has so much potential. From today's game, he shown he could be even better than Draco if he can fix his game where he don't throw away games & finish. NonY's strategies in Ro16, quarter & semi-final has been above his opponent even when he does lose.
Draco plays pvp like it was tvp by turtling harddddd, lol.
On May 25 2008 13:22 Failsafe wrote: i hate to be a detractor after such a high profile match, but i wasn't impressed by draco's play. both games one and two should have gone the other way. it was only two incredible strokes of luck that kept draco in the game past the ten minute mark.
in game one, the shuttle dying with both reavers inside was an enormous fluke, and it was virtually impossible for nony to recover afterward.
in game two, as has been stated, the game was over in all but the 'gg' after nony's dragoons and reavers destroyed draco's army.
it's hard to understand how anyone can be taken by draco's performance when he was rescued in games one and two by hugely improbable strokes of good fortune.
in about 75% of army encounters nony outhandled draco, and nony was also better prepared with build orders and timings for each map. after watching the tightness of nony's mechanics and strategies, and the relatively loose, generic protoss macro play by draco, i don't think the better player won this series.
i would be very surprised to see draco take even a game away from brat if the finals comes to that.
In all three games it seemed to me as if nony cut probe production kinda early in order to have an army advantage at the 8-10 minute mark, while draco essentially built none-stop probes. My question then to people who actually understand pvp; Was this on purpose or did nony simply get nervous and forgot his multitasking?
On May 25 2008 13:22 Failsafe wrote: i hate to be a detractor after such a high profile match, but i wasn't impressed by draco's play. both games one and two should have gone the other way. it was only two incredible strokes of luck that kept draco in the game past the ten minute mark.
in game one, the shuttle dying with both reavers inside was an enormous fluke, and it was virtually impossible for nony to recover afterward.
in game two, as has been stated, the game was over in all but the 'gg' after nony's dragoons and reavers destroyed draco's army.
it's hard to understand how anyone can be taken by draco's performance when he was rescued in games one and two by hugely improbable strokes of good fortune.
in about 75% of army encounters nony outhandled draco, and nony was also better prepared with build orders and timings for each map. after watching the tightness of nony's mechanics and strategies, and the relatively loose, generic protoss macro play by draco, i don't think the better player won this series.
i would be very surprised to see draco take even a game away from brat if the finals comes to that.
It was nony's mistakes, not just luck
Agree. Draco would have been raped by a pro-gamer at this point, but Nony made there two huge mistakes.
I was thinking during this game that the real difference between theses two players is that Draco doesn't loose dropship. So well, yes, none of them is Nal_ra, but it still remains amazing starcraft.
On May 25 2008 19:44 KlaCkoN wrote: In all three games it seemed to me as if nony cut probe production kinda early in order to have an army advantage at the 8-10 minute mark, while draco essentially built none-stop probes. My question then to people who actually understand pvp; Was this on purpose or did nony simply get nervous and forgot his multitasking?
it was clearly intentional as he timed his attacks at exactly the point where the probe cuts gave him an advantage. at least that was the case in games one and two, but by the middle of game 2 nony was tilted hard due to dropping the two reaver shuttle in the first game and, in the second game, by failing to make the game-ending nexus kill at draco's expansion. knowing that he should have won both games was probably horribly frustrating.
an important point about game one that seems to have gone completely unnoticed is the fact that nony had an expansion at that point was almost a disadvantage because he had cut so many probes that its extra income was marginal, and by losing the two reavers, he instantly lost control of the game. so, couple the expansion with a low probe count, and nony had to doubly fear reavers from draco because he had more area to defend, with less army to defend it, and each probe kill was heavily felt because his mining numbers were already low. thus nony had to play overly defensively, forgoing expansions while draco was free to either make a committing attack or expand at will. if you'd really like an understanding of game one, think of it as ending when the reavers died rather than ending draco's macro eventually overpowered nony
the second game was more interesting, but i think what appeared to be a huge disadvantage for draco was misinterpretted as such by the audience and nony. nony's initial attack involved cutting so many probes that after surviving it, draco's meager probe losses only evened the playing field while nony played as though he had a large advantage. game two was fairly well-played by both players, but i think nony lost more by false intelligence of his own designs than draco doing anything notable.
really draco did very little in the way of strategy, storm drops or anything else.
even in game 3, when it was clear nony was tilting, nony still outplayed draco up to the point that nony failed to notice draco's army walk around to destroy the top left expansion. i stand by my assessment that draco will be wiped out by brat, if brat is his opponent.
On May 25 2008 13:22 Failsafe wrote:in game one, the shuttle dying with both reavers inside was an enormous fluke, and it was virtually impossible for nony to recover afterward.
i don't think the better player won this series.
Maybe the first shuttle dying was a bit of luck on Draco's part, but the second one where he was very slow in reacting and still killed it? And the third? How many shuttles did Draco kill that weren't forced by him throughout the series? Answer: a lot. If you're going to be that aggressive with shuttle play decently late into the game, at least get shuttle speed.
And the expansion in the second game? Why didn't Nony take his mineral only first? If you're going to expand to a gas expo that is difficult to defend, at least have your army in the vicinity of it so you don't throw it away completely.
Overall Nony's decision making was terrible, and he wasn't even close to being the better player as a result.
Nony was outplayed pretty badly, mainly from Draco making excellent decisions.
Some shuttles were luck yes, but the the shuttle lost to storm in game2 should've been just a shuttle, picking up the reavers in a spot where u really should be able to tell that the shuttle wasnt even close to surviving, while the reavers probably would have as they dodged most of the first storm?