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![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/staff/pachi/xd/TSLworld_wd.jpg) GRAB THE TSL SEMIFINALS DAY 1 VODS HERE Or check out the spoiler-free YouTube VODs here. The stream is over, thanks for watching! Come back tomorrow at 4:30pm EST / 10:30pm CET for BRAT_OK vs JianFei! Today's matches: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif) ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/pl.png) Retired_Draco vs. ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) Excello.NonYGame 1 - Othello Game 2 - Wuthering Heights Game 3 - Blue Storm Game 4 - Zodiac Game 5 - Othello Results: + Show Spoiler + Draco 3-0 NonY Enjoy the show! --TSL Staff | ||
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Showtime!
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for reals win!! | ||
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On May 25 2008 04:49 Tinithor wrote: Too bad PvP is my least favorite matchup to watch... Mine too, but I still can’t wait for the games! GOGO I hope we'll see 5 great games | ||
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grobo
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  NonY fighting!! | ||
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St0rmRush
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gogo dracoo! gogo brat_OK | ||
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Uraeus
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I say 3-1 for Draco, but I don't really care who wins as long as we have great games. | ||
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Attolite
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 That was so nice of the commentators to remind us to give him our appreciation. But yea, I'm hoping NonY will go FTW cuz' of the mouse I might possibly receive. Although, I wonder how many people chose him to win cuz only 3 Destructor Mats will be given and if 200 people or more voted for Nony I'm probably not going to get one anyway.  | ||
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IntoTheWow
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 Draco, DRACARYS! | ||
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NewwwnY!! | ||
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Gogo Draco!!! | ||
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Somewhere I heard this song before... | ||
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SpiritAshura
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I think, don't remember, the song before that one was hoobastank too. | ||
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Latham
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Hoobastank - Out of Control ? Hoobastank - Just One | ||
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Attolite
United States144 Posts
This crowd just keeps getting bigger and bigger. GO TSL! | ||
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Lenwe
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On May 25 2008 05:34 o3.power91 wrote: Whats the title of the song playing? Hoobastank - Out of Control Hoobastank - Just One | ||
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Bub
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NonY! | ||
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Nazarene
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TryThis
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PvP is borring! | ||
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Loophole
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Edit: Day, turn your MIC up plz. =) Sounds muffled. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
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Edit: Too bad no zergs left for his commentary ;/ | ||
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Dreamer]
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And Day is there :D although he microphone is a bit "murky" | ||
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SpiritAshura
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We're gonna hear this like 800 times today. | ||
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shimmy
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Draco fighting.Protoss domination! | ||
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o3.power91
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On May 25 2008 05:40 SpiritAshura wrote: STOP. SAYING. ANYTHING. ABOUT. HIS. MECHANICS. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. =( We're gonna hear this like 800 times today. LOL | ||
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Blind
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Error for GomPlayer: Cannot connect to the streaming server. Make sure you are connected to the internet and you're not blocked by a firewall, then try again. Error code: 0x00000071 Errors for VLC after multiple tries: Unable to open 'mmsh://stream3.tsl.teamliquid.net:20000/' Unable to open 'mmsh://stream2.tsl.teamliquid.net:10000/' Unable to open 'mmsh://stream7.tsl.teamliquid.net:20000/' Unable to open 'mmsh://stream2.tsl.teamliquid.net:20000/' edit: It worked fine for me two weeks ago, but these errors starting happening last week. I don't want to miss this semifinal like I did those quarterfinals. | ||
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Shauni
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On May 25 2008 05:41 Attolite wrote: Day[9] mic must not be loud enough because it sounds kind of muffled. Cool to hear his voice though. I think its the mic... I don't hear him very well. | ||
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Dreamer]
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On May 25 2008 05:40 SpiritAshura wrote: STOP. SAYING. ANYTHING. ABOUT. HIS. MECHANICS. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. =( We're gonna hear this like 800 times today. OVER 9000!! | ||
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I love how enthusiastic Day sounds. | ||
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This is the first time I'm watching the TSL live, and I am EXTREMELY impressed with the level of proffesionalism as well as just how nice the whole thing looks and works. (P.S. NONY IN 3!!!!) | ||
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SpiritAshura
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i should have expected that yet for some reason didnt. i admit i really do love that probe intro. edit: we should take a tally of how many times they mention his mechanics | ||
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klizzer
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Yea, his mic is a bit off~~ | ||
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I have it fullscreen on my huge flat-screen TV and ther is not a stray pixel in sight. | ||
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Day/Artosis is awesome right now! whoever is moving the camera is great too :D | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:01 ydg wrote: does draco have an obs with his army? Yes. | ||
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Coulthard
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pimp | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:01 Bub wrote: the weather forecast says storms coming sooon Great one! Draco's unit mix is way better than Nony's I think. HTs rule PvP. Edit : I am stupid. Nony has HTs too. | ||
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live reports plz! | ||
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Edit: I don't even care who wins, it just hurts to see all those reavers in shuttles dying. | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:09 o3.power91 wrote: This is probably the best PvP ive seen since Bisu vs Stork on loki :D lol wat? | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:07 Solmyr wrote: How many reavers and shuttles Nony lost in this game ? 3 so far. 2 shuttles with 2 reavers and 1 shuttle with 1 reaver... that's huge and he is still in this bitch fuck yeah!!!!!!! NonY 파이팅!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Bub
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On May 25 2008 06:06 ydg wrote: nony! wow he loses so many reavers ye shuttle fulls not once but twice.. maybe three if I missed it? =/ | ||
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NarutO
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Draco has this o_O! Pretty well played of him. | ||
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this macth isn't that bad :D | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:16 IntoTheWow wrote: I lol'ed in real life. | ||
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NarutO
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On May 25 2008 06:16 Bub wrote: ooh no gg from nony. Game #2 now. They are casting a replay. No text in replay! :p | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:16 IntoTheWow wrote: LOL | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:16 IntoTheWow wrote: Nah it was more his strategic/intuition that pulled ahead. Little things like holding back on getting the third gas early or counterattacking immediately after nony lost the shuttle helped him fortify a good momentum to gain a late game economic advantage. | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:17 G.s)NarutO wrote: They are casting a replay. No text in replay! :p Wait... IT'S A REPLAY?! T_T | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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newwwwny also, did day just say "gosh"? | ||
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Nazarene
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i didnt think i would enjoy watching pvp, but that game was really exciting! and day and artosis is complementing each other so good, best commentating team in tsl so far! | ||
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NarutO
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[/irony] | ||
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Jyvblamo
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Yeah, the entire league was played last month. Brat won the whole thing, 3-0 over Nony. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
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On May 25 2008 06:19 Jyvblamo wrote: Yeah, the entire league was played last month. Brat won the whole thing, 3-0 over Nony. It was 3-1 | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:17 G.s)NarutO wrote: They are casting a replay. No text in replay! :p AHHHHHHH..........! lol | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:19 Jonoman92 wrote: Who are the casters? It's not the usual Chill and Artosis, it's Artosis and someone else. It's Artosis and Day[9]. | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:19 Jonoman92 wrote: Who are the casters? It's not the usual Chill and Artosis, it's Artosis and someone else. Day[9] | ||
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o3.power91
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Not again.... | ||
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BooBoogers
United States229 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:19 Jyvblamo wrote: Yeah, the entire league was played last month. Brat won the whole thing, 3-0 over Nony. lol | ||
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jtan
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4 3 2 1 GO DRACO ~~ | ||
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thunk
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On May 25 2008 06:19 Jyvblamo wrote: Yeah, the entire league was played last month. Brat won the whole thing, 3-0 over Nony. 3 bunker rushes in a row, Boxer style *sigh* Those aggressive expansions from Draco as well as losing 5 reavers in shuttles by Nony really paid off for Draco *sigh* | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + ok I'll stop now :p | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:19 Nazarene wrote: lol nice intothewow i didnt think i would enjoy watching pvp, but that game was really exciting! and day and artosis is complementing each other so good, best commentating team in tsl so far! I feel the total opposite.I cant even hear days voice clearly | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:16 pokerface wrote: Geez day's voice is aweful...this is the first and only thing that i can complain about.And i dont know why had to change but chill+artosis was great. Chill will cast again tomorrow  | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:21 teamsolid wrote: Artosis/Day are doing great.. but Artosis/Chill is still best. Yeah I would agree. | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:24 Jyvblamo wrote: I think Nony missed a pylon or something last game, there was really no reason that he should have been 10-20 supply behind Draco early on. Nony made less probes and opened up 1gate robo vs. Draco's 2gate robo | ||
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Could it be that he has... errr.... better mechanics? | ||
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Damn......... | ||
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NonY ;_; | ||
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Cocky Draco will win T-T DIE draco ! | ||
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Newbistic
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His goons clearly dealing normal damage or something. | ||
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klizzer
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And besides, we always see APM statistics after games in Korean leagues. | ||
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Boblion
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Seriously i need to count how many shuttles nony lost ^^ | ||
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Then day is like "HE FORGOT STORMMMMMMMMMMM" | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:42 XMShake wrote: ITS NO PROBLEM IF HE FORGETS STORM. I THINK ITS NO PROBLEM IF REAVERS DIE IN SHUTTLE. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
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Nony really really deserved this game and many times over, I really hope he wins game 3 at least. | ||
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2-0 Draco... | ||
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crazy comeback! Having to pull probes to defend twice haha | ||
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Draco imba no exaggeration... | ||
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Nony is a blue storm god tho, nony fighting!!!!!!!!! | ||
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o3.power91
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On May 25 2008 06:44 Uraeus wrote: Nony must be wondering : "what is that thunder melting my army? Wish I had that, too." LOL | ||
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Attolite
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Let's see if Nony can win the last match, match #3. | ||
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On May 25 2008 06:44 Uraeus wrote: Nony must be wondering : "what is that thunder melting my army? Wish I had that, too." Hillarious. :D | ||
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Vin{MBL}
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GOGOGOGOO 3-2 it boy! | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:43 FrozenArbiter wrote: Nony choking sooooooooo hard T_T Playing sooooooooooooooo good early game then falls apart. Draco being very zen, experience is good I guess. Nony really really deserved this game and many times over, I really hope he wins game 3 at least. Nony didn't really choke, he just got too aggressive. This is exactly the opposite of what happened in game 1 of the series, where Draco made the smarter decision by moving out about halfway across the map after winning a major battle to pressure Nony into cutting probes and then retreating and instead placing 2 expos to secure the mid-game lead. | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
HOW DID DRACO WIN THAT ?! GOSU GOSUUUU ! Feel the difference, from zero to hero ! | ||
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Bub
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On May 25 2008 06:45 SpiritAshura wrote: Hopefully nony looses 3-0 you're a communist. | ||
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Canada239 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:45 ghostyx wrote: OMG THE STUPID ASSHOLE WAS SO ARROGANT AND NOW HE GETS PWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNED Wow shut up. He's not arrogant, he just has confidence, confidence is a normal thing, you know. Damm nony chokes twice =/, he had both of those games early | ||
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nothingbutzerg
Greece626 Posts
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Kaptein[konijn]
Netherlands110 Posts
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radar14
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
U S A OOOoooooo | ||
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NarutO
Germany18836 Posts
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Belgium34 Posts
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United States144 Posts
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:48 ghostyx wrote: LOOK AT THE ARROGANT AMERICAN HE GETS PWWWWWWWWWWWNED shut up plz | ||
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
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SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
Just because he's American doesn't mean I have to like him. | ||
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:46 mdb wrote: Nony just invented the non-storm drop. No he copied it from Bisu | ||
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grobo
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Carkling
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ZlyKiss
Poland697 Posts
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klizzer
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Draco's probe micro was a really good highlight of this game. | ||
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Canada126 Posts
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karelen
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United States229 Posts
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rest_less
Germany142 Posts
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Attolite
United States144 Posts
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EnergyTraction
Canada233 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:47 radar14 wrote: it looks like nony should look to take more bases when he feels he has the advantage instead of attacking into draco's airtight defense Nony's super aggressive style seems to almost win it for him early twice but Draco's superior micro and "sense" wins it for him later (as in when to expo, when to sit back and widen the gap, etc). Nony doesn't seem to be able to play the "sit back and macro" game, like he's compelled to just attack attack attack even when it's really disadvantageous to do so. On May 25 2008 06:50 ret wrote: draco seems to come into the mid game way stronger.....nony must be cutting a lot of probes? Yes definitely, which also ties into what I said above...Nony just plays a really aggressive style and Draco's style seems to be the "counter" to it...just defend, let your aggressive opponent who can't adapt waste his army repeatedly, widen an economic gap, and then rape. Nony has more units than Draco but Draco has 20 more pop, which means Draco has a ton more probes and because he's always in the defensive position can win the fights that Nony insists on delivering...and then when he expos afterwards he has the probes he needs to get that expo running immediately. | ||
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abomi.nation
Canada103 Posts
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nothingbutzerg
Greece626 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Die Draco it is ur fault ! | ||
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United States2053 Posts
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Belgium34 Posts
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Germany142 Posts
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United States144 Posts
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Poland23 Posts
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United States525 Posts
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United States3612 Posts
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Shauni
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On May 25 2008 06:50 ret wrote: draco seems to come into the mid game way stronger.....nony must be cutting a lot of probes? I was thinking that too... How else does he get a much heavier army than Draco with that early/midgame push? | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:50 ret wrote: draco seems to come into the mid game way stronger.....nony must be cutting a lot of probes? I think it's because Draco took a super aggressive 3rd way faster than Nony and Nony doesn't realize it. You must be right but I find it really hard to believe that Nony stops building probes during mid game. | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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Flopgun
Germany274 Posts
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Carkling
Germany169 Posts
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Canada1167 Posts
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United States9 Posts
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BooBoogers
United States229 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:51 ghostyx wrote: lol why i should shut up? look at the interview.. hes an arrogant asshole AND NOW HE GETS TOTALLY PWNED If you just created an account to be a dumbass, go back to gosugamers. | ||
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tOOkOmA4U
Germany253 Posts
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Attolite
United States144 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: GIVE THE STREAM BACKKKKK Correction, give us the Life Stream back to us. FF7 | ||
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Solmyr
Poland261 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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rest_less
Germany142 Posts
) can't wait for game 3 | ||
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Italy1170 Posts
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Bahrain5288 Posts
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United States1002 Posts
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Attolite
United States144 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:53 grobo wrote: Yup, Day[9] is doing a great job with his commenting Of course, he did say he's been a Starcraft junkie for 8 years. That's pretty cool. | ||
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IntoTheWow
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On May 25 2008 06:52 cuteFayth wrote: I bet 150$ on Nony, and he's fucking sucking balls, /wrists It's ok, just double or nothing. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5623 Posts
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ghostyx
Belgium34 Posts
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FlamyDeath
Netherlands146 Posts
Its clearly a conspiracy! Either Nony or Draco got so badly humiliated game 3 that they are DDoSing the streams so they can't show us the games! | ||
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ydg
United States690 Posts
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Vin{MBL}
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
I'll do it with you, OH WAIT YOU HAVE NO MONEY | ||
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Kakashi[Black]
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Integra
Sweden5623 Posts
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k0ziol
Poland75 Posts
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
lol | ||
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Taiwan936 Posts
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Argentina1204 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
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Attolite
United States144 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes Wasn't Draco being kinda arrogant too when he claimed that he wasn't practicing much?? | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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Storchen
Sweden4385 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes gtfo moron. | ||
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes Luckily, Nony isn't an arrogant asshole (and neither is Draco), so we're safe here no matter which one we bet on. | ||
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Carkling
Germany169 Posts
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Nightmarjoo
United States3353 Posts
nvm just got stream back, but I'm sure the game will be epic anyway! | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes Or just bet on the right one. | ||
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Sweden5891 Posts
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Eg!
Belgium49 Posts
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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United States9 Posts
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Attolite
United States144 Posts
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Dynamo
United States3 Posts
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Poland23 Posts
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Griimm
United States15 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes you really are annoying. | ||
Mynock
4492 Posts
Haha. Yeah, that way, even if u lose, u don't have to pay anything. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
Edit : getting greedy on the "a" got me post 1/10s later then teamsolid | ||
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Spuczan_
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On May 25 2008 06:55 Attolite wrote: Wasn't Draco being kinda arrogant too when he claimed that he wasn't practicing much?? What if this is true? | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
edit: and the gaem havent even started yet..or is it already over? o.O | ||
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Bahrain5288 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes This guy clearly has some anger issues | ||
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is awesome32169 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 cuteFayth wrote: I'll do it with you, OH WAIT YOU HAVE NO MONEY I don't need money, I'm smart enough to vote for Draco. lol. | ||
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United States8366 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + "And their play styles will be very important in this FINAL MATCH | ||
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Lenwe
Netherlands757 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes Posting it once, fair enough. Posting it five times on a completely new account is just asking for a ban. Then you can create a new account and whine about how people are not allowed to speak out their feelings. | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:50 klizzer wrote: Nony deserved that game tho. Draco's probe micro was a really good highlight of this game. Well, nony made a noob mistake by entering deep. He had 2 better options but did the worst. 1) After killing off Dracos goons, back off and continually kill off new goons and probes coming at him. 2) Kill Dracos expansion. Draco did not have a shuttle anymore, so no reavers or goons or drones would save it. Back off and expand/tech win. 3) forcefully go for the kill with injured goons into a position which can easily be surrounded by goons. Nonyyyyy.. nooo. Get a grip on your game now. | ||
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Croatia2452 Posts
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:56 IntoTheWow wrote: I don't need money, I'm smart enough to vote for Draco. lol. yeah betting 0 is gonna get you tons | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
If it's true, he's arrogant for declaring it. If it's not, he's a liar. But who cares, smack talk should be expected and encouraged, unless it's evil. | ||
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Dreamer]
Sweden358 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:55 Attolite wrote: Wasn't Draco being kinda arrogant too when he claimed that he wasn't practicing much?? I don't think either of them are arrogant. Why would Draco feel the need to lie in an interview? He's already been top of the foreign scene for years and been to Korea and back. It's not like he needs an ego boost or anything, so he's just giving an honest answer. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
May the best manlot win. | ||
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Vin{MBL}
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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Devolved
United States2752 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 ydg wrote: crashed. sorta like nony's shuttles. lol, seriously though, i think nony would have won that first game if he had not lost the shuttle, and the second game, i honestly don't know how he lost it. | ||
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Greece626 Posts
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Germany253 Posts
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Austria3371 Posts
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Canada3791 Posts
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United States1002 Posts
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United States6233 Posts
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Croatia2452 Posts
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Poland997 Posts
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oovv
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France1378 Posts
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uNiGNoRe
Germany1115 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18836 Posts
Stork: - chokes in finals - forgets goon range Nony: - chokes in semi final - forgetting storm - losing reaver | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
ninja edit : sup silv ^^ | ||
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Sweden33713 Posts
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BooBoogers
United States229 Posts
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ydg
United States690 Posts
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Bahrain5288 Posts
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Bub
United States3512 Posts
On May 25 2008 06:54 ghostyx wrote: never bet on arrogant assholes you're kidding. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18836 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:07 besiger.cry wrote: well atleast it wasnt a total loss, some probe kills ninja edit : sup silv ^^ Hi^^.. not much | ||
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BooBoogers
United States229 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:08 FrozenArbiter wrote: I think nony thought that was a cannon morphing, I know I did Oh that makes sense. Wonder why he ran. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
nice! | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
would be cool if we could see worker count | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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Stax
Croatia121 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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Bub
United States3512 Posts
well, D further ahead | ||
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nothingbutzerg
Greece626 Posts
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Nazarene
Denmark996 Posts
I feel kinda bad for NonY, getting 0-3'ed in a bo5 must not feel good. | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
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United States3512 Posts
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Canada13788 Posts
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ydg
United States690 Posts
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Croatia2452 Posts
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United States438 Posts
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Germany1115 Posts
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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Korea (North)259 Posts
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Canada13788 Posts
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United States229 Posts
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Poland997 Posts
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Canada3581 Posts
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grobo
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United States1002 Posts
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ydg
United States690 Posts
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._.
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Draco, so badass..so calm... | ||
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United States2053 Posts
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uNiGNoRe
Germany1115 Posts
Draco is just incredible. I knew he would win but 3-0 is really impressive. | ||
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United States1271 Posts
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United States3512 Posts
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:20 Samurai- wrote: going to bed, what a waste of time great attitude | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
Woah. lots of upset people... | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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karelen
Sweden2407 Posts
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5623 Posts
All the expansions in the wrodl won't help you if you don't have enough probes. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:20 Bob123 wrote: Nony deserves losing for his cocky attitude ) There is even more talk about NonY's cockiness than Draco's mechanics. Unbelievable! But Draco has proven himself, and NonY didn't. So I expect to hear about both even more. | ||
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conCentrate9
United States438 Posts
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._.
1133 Posts
Better player won.. Draco vs Brat will be epic. | ||
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ehem
Poland4 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
" I barely played one game it is too easy ". I hope that Brat or Ief will stomp his face in final -.-. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4056 Posts
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
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Jusciax
Lithuania588 Posts
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._.
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So great, | ||
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Randos
Germany48 Posts
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uNiGNoRe
Germany1115 Posts
I prefer him over Chill. He's a bit better at commentation imho. | ||
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:23 ehem wrote: It shows how much Draco is better than any other non korean//china player. I dont think that Draco is really that better than Mondi / Lx / PJ / prime Testie. | ||
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Cyprus109 Posts
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Jusciax
Lithuania588 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:24 3nickma wrote: Fuck nony and fuck this dumb fucking liquidbet Yea fuck everything because liquidbet is so important lol | ||
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MuShu
United States3223 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:23 ehem wrote: It shows how much Draco is better than any other non korean//china player. Well, China didn't even get to play, so that statement is kind of unjustified. I hope Chinese players get to play if there is a next TSL, seeing as how they have many skilled players also. | ||
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HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
#1a Draco #1b White-Ra #3a JF #3b Nony thats the way it is. BTW: Mondi > all of them. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
Well I'm happy about my LB. 1/1 so far. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
gg's! | ||
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Canada784 Posts
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Eg!
Belgium49 Posts
even though brat was amazing vs dreiven (especially third game), i don't see how he can beat this monster in the finals! maybe jf can by playing really clever, but so far it seems Draco just handles all "smart" plays constantly in a solid way. | ||
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tOOkOmA4U
Germany253 Posts
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Rambling.
Canada314 Posts
and draco dominates 3-0!!! | ||
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Dreamer]
Sweden358 Posts
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Durak
Canada3683 Posts
Edit: The TL staff and commentators that made this happen are of course pro at being able to pull this off so successfully. Artosis is great as usual. Thanks to Day[9] for coming on and being fantastic out of the gate. Thanks to Chill, Manifesto, Yannis and Vaul for the casting on the previous matches (hope I didn't miss any). Top notch! | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
and day/arto were awesome thanks guys | ||
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Tonkerchen
680 Posts
GL next time and very good job @ draco I hope there will be a TvP final! | ||
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[SD]Hi_MaN
Poland54 Posts
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9068 Posts
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cdn
Poland16 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4056 Posts
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:29 cdn wrote: He copied Bisu's stormless drop build. | ||
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Latham
9404 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:29 cdn wrote: Oh lol now that's just rubbing it in! | ||
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iLjh
United States160 Posts
he got good at a very fast rate and thus received a major ego blast coming into this match convinced that he would win... he might be a great player.. but he is far from the best | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:25 Boblion wrote: I dont think that Draco is really that better than Mondi / Lx / PJ / prime Testie. Uh, hes not better than Mondi, thats for sure. Theres like 9 replays from the TSL ladder of Mondi just dismantling Draco. | ||
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illmatic
Canada53 Posts
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HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:31 iLjh wrote: maybe this will teach nony to be more humble he got good at a very fast rate and thus received a major ego blast coming into this match convinced that he would win... he might be a great player.. but he is far from the best So true. @the picture is funny.. | ||
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cdn
Poland16 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32169 Posts
#1 Draco (IntoTheWow gets a pad) #2 Brat_OK #3 Jianfei #4 NonY | ||
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shimmy
Poland997 Posts
Edit: Post nr 666 >_< | ||
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[iD]faiyth
Canada134 Posts
pressure, pressure. | ||
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HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
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travis
United States24487 Posts
"teach nony to be humble", lol | ||
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RattleHead
Canada26 Posts
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Latham
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1133 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:34 IntoTheWow wrote: yes Draco! #1 Draco (IntoTheWow gets a pad) #2 Brat_OK #3 Jianfei #4 NonY Brat_OK > Draco Mind vs Bisu style 3:1 JF > Nony 3-1 | ||
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radar14
United States1437 Posts
for godsakes people... stop playing amateur psychiatrist like every other douchebag on a soapbox | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
Sick.. I bet alot of players envy dracos skill. I think he could get back into pro buisness if he wanted too. Obviously it doesnt look like he does sadly =/ GG nonetheless, great show! | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:37 [iD]faiyth wrote: sigh poor nony... pressure, pressure. what the fuck is with ur id, you moron | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
Unlike Bisu, Draco's best MU is PvT (according to interviews) Betting Brat 3-1 JF then Draco 3-2 Brat :D | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
Oh well, looking forward to watching JF spank BRAT_OK tomorrow. | ||
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ehem
Poland4 Posts
I won't be so sure. Brat have already showed us great TvP, but don't forget that this MU has always been the best for Draco. I don't remember when Draco lost recently with foreign Terran. | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
rofl | ||
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Raithed
China7077 Posts
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
on topic i feel sorry for Nony, 0-3 was so harsh T_T | ||
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Kaoz
Poland48 Posts
And thank you Day and Artosis for great commentary. Both being american, were very objective. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21540 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:48 xsnk wrote: GIMME VODS NAO! lol, they were uploaded 1 minute after your post. Sorry, I'll try to go faster next time. :p | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:25 Boblion wrote: I dont think that Draco is really that better than Mondi / Lx / PJ / prime Testie. He's not imo, you saw him struggle against oov and Midas in WCG06, Testie held his own against them. Maybe that's not that much proof, but still i think he's around the same level if not worse then them. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:54 St3MoR wrote: i have a serious question, what does Draco want to prove with all this "Retired_" and "i don't train a shit" bullshit? on topic i feel sorry for Nony, 0-3 was so harsh T_T Maybe he doesn't want to prove anything (since he's already dominated the foreign scene in the past and even been to Korea) and is just telling the truth. Ever thought of that before calling it "bullshit"? He's basically done with the competitive SC scene and is just playing for the $5K here. | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
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ehem
Poland4 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:47 Kyuki wrote: Outside of the mistakes and what not, you could see that even if Nony manages to do succesful stormdrops Draco was never behind economically because he had superior macro, ALWAYS producing probes. He was basically producing probes in the main nexus till the point he only had 3-4 mining pads left in the last game on bluestorm. Sick.. I bet alot of players envy dracos skill. I think he could get back into pro buisness if he wanted too. Obviously it doesnt look like he does sadly =/ GG nonetheless, great show! Maybe winning an amount of money equal to the minerals he had at the end of the last game will change his mind :D | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
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EnergyTraction
Canada233 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:00 cuteFayth wrote: lol @ 5k ....woulda thought someone with your sad history wouldn't say something like that. | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
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Native
Poland105 Posts
Edit: Fu.k i forgott. Nony played today great matches. He show that he is really good. the 2nd game was just ultimate pvp | ||
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ehem
Poland4 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:01 cuteFayth wrote: If he really doesn't practice or care anymore, he shouldn't even mention it in the first place, cuz obviously It's going to come off as flat out arrogance Why do you think he mentions it in first place. He just asked a question. I don't know why people don't belive him. "Retired" before nick is a joke in my opinion. Draco arrogant ?? Never. Yes, i'm his fanboy. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
I'm gonna watch game 2 again :D | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:01 cuteFayth wrote: If he really doesn't practice or care anymore, he shouldn't even mention it in the first place, cuz obviously It's going to come off as flat out arrogance Look, this basically started by the TSL interviewer asking him why he has Retired in his name, so of course he's gonna explain it. It's not "obviously" arrogant, because it didn't seem that way to me at all. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
The beginning of the first 2 games, i seriously thought Nony could win. Draco was just too good apparently :D | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
Seemed arrogant to me | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:11 cuteFayth wrote: Seemed arrogant to me That's just to you then, it's not "obviously" arrogant. | ||
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xsnk
24 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:55 SonuvBob wrote: lol, they were uploaded 1 minute after your post. Sorry, I'll try to go faster next time. :p You see, thats the power of a kind request. | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
It's not "obviously" arrogant, because it didn't seem that way to me at all. same shit | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:11 cuteFayth wrote: I didn't read his interview, nor do I care, all I've seen is his TSL description that we could see before matches "-Claims to not practice" Seemed arrogant to me Then if you don't even know the story then why do you commentate on him being arrogant and then defend your stance in doing so? Agh, this is pissing me off. | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
Nm. The TSL people of course want to stir up excitement some grudges between the players and the fans for the preview, which is always neat and makes more people interested in the match. I don't mind that at all. | ||
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Uris
United States47 Posts
when stork fought flash twice in the osl, he got dismantled....and i was rooting for him Now the same thing happened with nony, wtf? this also happens in sports....the recent champions league, i was going for chelsea but fucking terry messed it up..... damn.... | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
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ffs
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:19 Uris wrote: wtf? damn it, i always pick a team or a player that loses. when stork fought flash twice in the osl, he got dismantled....and i was rooting for him Now the same thing happened with nony, wtf? this also happens in sports....the recent champions league, i was going for chelsea but fucking terry messed it up..... damn.... It's because you're bad luck. You should consider not rooting for anyone, or maybe rooting for the person/team you want to lose because maybe you can trick the forces of the universe, but then again they will know what you are up to. | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:30 ahole-surprise wrote: It's because you're bad luck. You should consider not rooting for anyone, or maybe rooting for the person/team you want to lose because maybe you can trick the forces of the universe, but then again they will know what you are up to. thats true | ||
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:36 Nick_54 wrote: How impressive does this make White_Ra now after only losing to Draco 3-2 and beating Idra? i dont know, i think draco played better [ on the maps] since he beat white ra. | ||
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paper
13191 Posts
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ffs
18 Posts
On May 25 2008 07:44 radar14 wrote: yes nony is going to change his entire attitude and outlook on life because of one bo5 series for godsakes people... stop playing amateur psychiatrist like every other douchebag on a soapbox why would you want nony to change his attitude? it's a lot funnier with him being arrogant as long as there's people totally raping him. would be a lot more annoying if he actually was as good as mondi & co or even better. | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:44 ffs wrote: why would you want nony to change his attitude? it's a lot funnier with him being arrogant as long as there's people totally raping him. would be a lot more annoying if he actually was as good as mondi & co or even better. why the fuck are so many people calling him arrogrant? i just dont get it. | ||
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uppTagg
Sweden473 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
Draco doesn't deserve the finals. | ||
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GrayArea
United States872 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:45 aqui wrote: why the fuck are so many people calling him arrogrant? i just dont get it. I think they are calling him arrogant because of all the things he said about this match with draco. He was saying that draco is completely beatable and stuff, so people may have perceived that as arrogance. I am not calling him arrogant, just trying to understand why other people are. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14841 Posts
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G5
United States2748 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:51 jwd241224 wrote: NonY Draco doesn't deserve the finals. sux for Nony yes but Draco definitely deserves the finals gg's | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
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Xeln4g4
Italy1170 Posts
I remind everyone that Draco was ONLY one game away from qualifying for the ODT or Survivor, don't remember now which one. | ||
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/379/whereisstormnow2hg9.jpg) | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
I can't wait to see these vods. <3 Draco! | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On May 25 2008 08:57 GrayArea wrote: I think they are calling him arrogant because of all the things he said about this match with draco. He was saying that draco is completely beatable and stuff, so people may have perceived that as arrogance. I am not calling him arrogant, just trying to understand why other people are. to label saying u can beat someone in sports as arrogant is just stupid imho. i could imagine its a nationalism thing. non americans are often quick to label americans as arrogant, when given the smallest reason. | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On May 25 2008 09:52 Senx wrote: WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!? PLEASE UPLOAD THE VODS ASAP!, i missed this and just got home... i was not sure if i wanted to know the results.. but i finally gave in and clicked the spoiler link.. what the hell? how did THAT happen? My jaw dropped. Seriously I can't wait to see these vods. <3 Draco! they're already on the tracker dude | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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Leunal
United States127 Posts
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DeAdLiNe
Bulgaria9 Posts
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humblegar
Norway883 Posts
And although 3-0 is dominating, I would not call the games themselves rape. Nony surely had builds and tactics to hurt Draco, but today he lacked that "it" to take it home. | ||
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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BooBoogers
United States229 Posts
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born-to-porn
Denmark400 Posts
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soudo
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OhThatDang
United States4683 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20655 Posts
game 1 and game 2 nony threw away. Well, we've got a Pole in the finals. Let's have a Russian to make this interesting | ||
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iLjh
United States160 Posts
On May 25 2008 09:22 IH4t3z3rg wrote: This was the only result possible for a good player playing vs a talented player who lived 8 months in Korean training with a progaming team ... i don't understand people wondering I remind everyone that Draco was ONLY one game away from qualifying for the ODT or Survivor, don't remember now which one. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9030 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On May 25 2008 12:17 Jonoman92 wrote: This is just an idea for the mods but if the decision on who will commentate on the finals is still up in the air (which I don't know if it's already been decided, maybe it has) make the poll this last week before the finals be for who we want to commentate so the people who will be listening get to decide who they hear. Hmm good idea. And the answer: Chill, Artosis, Day I really like Vaul and Zannis is a cool guy too it seems, but for the finals players with more strategical insight are necessary I think. | ||
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Failsafe
United States1298 Posts
in game one, the shuttle dying with both reavers inside was an enormous fluke, and it was virtually impossible for nony to recover afterward. in game two, as has been stated, the game was over in all but the 'gg' after nony's dragoons and reavers destroyed draco's army. it's hard to understand how anyone can be taken by draco's performance when he was rescued in games one and two by hugely improbable strokes of good fortune. in about 75% of army encounters nony outhandled draco, and nony was also better prepared with build orders and timings for each map. after watching the tightness of nony's mechanics and strategies, and the relatively loose, generic protoss macro play by draco, i don't think the better player won this series. i would be very surprised to see draco take even a game away from brat if the finals comes to that. | ||
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EnergyTraction
Canada233 Posts
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
btw, draco totally outclassed nony. Nony should've played more conservative and gain advantage with map control, just like draco did in game 1. Game 2 was lololol as how he lost a bunch of goons to bad micro an possibly giving draco a chance to get back in the game. Game 3... no comments, it was great play by both but when nony fell behind it was almost impossible to make a comeback out of it | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
On May 25 2008 13:43 EnergyTraction wrote: Totally incorrect analysis, in game two Draco's control was insanely better than Nony's, nothing to do with strokes of fortune or flukes, he killed 2 reavers with 1, shot Nony's shuttle several times, outstormed Nony horribly, was eons ahead of Nony such that even if Nony hadn't forgotten the storm for his storm drop it wouldn't have even mattered...Nony's style gets owned pretty hard by Draco's style. Once the game got going, Draco did outplay Nony in my opinion. However, I'm fairly confident that Nony had the game won when he killed Draco's army and moved into his nat. If Nony had just killed the nat nexus and camped the narrow choke he would have been up a base and up in supply. Then it would have been all kinds of downhill for Draco. Nony played greedy and went for the kill instead of solidifying his advantage and that cost him that win that he practically had in the bag. I saw that mindset mistake constantly throughout the series. Nony got a little bit of an advantage and instead of solidifying it and widening the gap he went for the kill only to lose his advantage. Then it was just a matter of Draco surviving to let his superior macro kick in and win. I think the series could have been much closer if Nony was a bit less greedy in his play. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4648 Posts
How often do people lose with an expo with reaver against an opponent trapped in their base without an expo??? Or 4 goon advantage IN YOUR OPPONENT'S BASE with more units coming and lose. Reminds me of the NonY vs Mondragon MOTC final game where it was NonY's game to lose. NonY should had been up 2-0, not behind 2. White-ra & Draco are good at maintaining advantages and finishing. NonY wins all the battle, but lose the war .NonY has so much potential. From today's game, he shown he could be even better than Draco if he can fix his game where he don't throw away games & finish. NonY's strategies in Ro16, quarter & semi-final has been above his opponent even when he does lose. Draco plays pvp like it was tvp by turtling harddddd, lol. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On May 25 2008 13:22 Failsafe wrote: i hate to be a detractor after such a high profile match, but i wasn't impressed by draco's play. both games one and two should have gone the other way. it was only two incredible strokes of luck that kept draco in the game past the ten minute mark. in game one, the shuttle dying with both reavers inside was an enormous fluke, and it was virtually impossible for nony to recover afterward. in game two, as has been stated, the game was over in all but the 'gg' after nony's dragoons and reavers destroyed draco's army. it's hard to understand how anyone can be taken by draco's performance when he was rescued in games one and two by hugely improbable strokes of good fortune. in about 75% of army encounters nony outhandled draco, and nony was also better prepared with build orders and timings for each map. after watching the tightness of nony's mechanics and strategies, and the relatively loose, generic protoss macro play by draco, i don't think the better player won this series. i would be very surprised to see draco take even a game away from brat if the finals comes to that. It was nony's mistakes, not just luck | ||
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JackDanniels
Poland10 Posts
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toshi
Poland469 Posts
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1637 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7631 Posts
Agree. Draco would have been raped by a pro-gamer at this point, but Nony made there two huge mistakes. I was thinking during this game that the real difference between theses two players is that Draco doesn't loose dropship. So well, yes, none of them is Nal_ra, but it still remains amazing starcraft. | ||
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morfyy
Romania593 Posts
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
a win is a win =] gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg i like both nony and draco so i'm happy either way | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
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Failsafe
United States1298 Posts
On May 25 2008 19:44 KlaCkoN wrote: In all three games it seemed to me as if nony cut probe production kinda early in order to have an army advantage at the 8-10 minute mark, while draco essentially built none-stop probes. My question then to people who actually understand pvp; Was this on purpose or did nony simply get nervous and forgot his multitasking? it was clearly intentional as he timed his attacks at exactly the point where the probe cuts gave him an advantage. at least that was the case in games one and two, but by the middle of game 2 nony was tilted hard due to dropping the two reaver shuttle in the first game and, in the second game, by failing to make the game-ending nexus kill at draco's expansion. knowing that he should have won both games was probably horribly frustrating. | ||
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Failsafe
United States1298 Posts
the second game was more interesting, but i think what appeared to be a huge disadvantage for draco was misinterpretted as such by the audience and nony. nony's initial attack involved cutting so many probes that after surviving it, draco's meager probe losses only evened the playing field while nony played as though he had a large advantage. game two was fairly well-played by both players, but i think nony lost more by false intelligence of his own designs than draco doing anything notable. really draco did very little in the way of strategy, storm drops or anything else. even in game 3, when it was clear nony was tilting, nony still outplayed draco up to the point that nony failed to notice draco's army walk around to destroy the top left expansion. i stand by my assessment that draco will be wiped out by brat, if brat is his opponent. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On May 25 2008 13:22 Failsafe wrote:in game one, the shuttle dying with both reavers inside was an enormous fluke, and it was virtually impossible for nony to recover afterward. i don't think the better player won this series. Maybe the first shuttle dying was a bit of luck on Draco's part, but the second one where he was very slow in reacting and still killed it? And the third? How many shuttles did Draco kill that weren't forced by him throughout the series? Answer: a lot. If you're going to be that aggressive with shuttle play decently late into the game, at least get shuttle speed. And the expansion in the second game? Why didn't Nony take his mineral only first? If you're going to expand to a gas expo that is difficult to defend, at least have your army in the vicinity of it so you don't throw it away completely. Overall Nony's decision making was terrible, and he wasn't even close to being the better player as a result. | ||
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sC)oRacle
Netherlands40 Posts
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
Some shuttles were luck yes, but the the shuttle lost to storm in game2 should've been just a shuttle, picking up the reavers in a spot where u really should be able to tell that the shuttle wasnt even close to surviving, while the reavers probably would have as they dodged most of the first storm? | ||
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iloveHieu
United States1919 Posts
Draco going hard for the $ ^.^ | ||
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