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Smuft
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Canada318 Posts
May 21 2008 06:31 GMT
#41
If I didn't know Draco I'd hate this retardedly-cocky I don't give a shit attitude but since I do I find it hilarious because he's basically exactly the same irl. This is a guy who justifies himself with "...because I am Draco". Obviously he's got some maturing and growing up to do but I will enjoy his unique personality and the drama it brings until then.

I'll take Draco 1:1 for up to 2k vs Nony. big balls call?!
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
May 21 2008 06:34 GMT
#42
GO NONY
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-21 06:45:11
May 21 2008 06:44 GMT
#43
smuft is the sickest negotiator ever. ill talk to naz about getting some bets in here, but we def gonna need better than 1:1 vs the favorite

im leaving for vegas tomorrow ill prob be back online tomorrow night so ill hit you or rek on msn or just reply back here cause id like to get some action on the games :D
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
ChaosKnight
Profile Joined April 2007
United States819 Posts
May 21 2008 07:24 GMT
#44
OMFG GO BRAT

The TSL turned out to be such a huge damn success! <3 you guys :D
-FS-DangerouS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1 Post
May 21 2008 09:20 GMT
#45
Guys,lets be realistic,for christ sake !
I am talking about Nony. He is a great guy,a great player,but his level is FAR AWAY BELOW Draco's level and this is the whole truth. Now,dont get the wrong idea. I hate Draco. He is acting like a total jerk and Nony rox and i want him to win,but this is just impossible. In my opinion,Nony got LUCKY to rech the semi-finals. GOsia was a very weak oponent and thats all. If Nony played vs Dinot,White_Ra or Dreiven,he would loose for sure. You dont like it - but its called truth guys and its called reality.

Im following this even since the begining and i was really laughing when so many people were cheering for Idra. Okay,he is American,most of you guys are from USA but he is much weaker than the other players,how could u say he will win this tournament in Korea in which he participated ? Really funny ! I wasnt surprised at all,when he lost,i was just wondering when and HOW will he loose. He still has ALOT of stuff to learn,but problem is that he is ALREADY acting shitty like Draco. He said that he will win this tournament,that some people are weak (people who are obviously stronger than him) and in the end - he lost and was pwned...

But lets get back to Nony,you guys say that he has VERY STRONG PvP. Who told you that ? And who told you Jf also has very strong PvP ? And how the hell did u decided Draco's PvP is weaker than their PvP ???? CUZ ITS N O T TRUE ! I would really like Nony wins this match vs Draco,not cuz he is better player,but because he is better PERSON than the polish guy,but this is NOT going to happen. Maybe in the land of dreams,yes. Bt in here - in real life,on planet Earth this is impossible.

The guy who was supposed to take Draco out and who i still think is STRONGER than Draco was White_Ra and i really hate to see he lost,but shit happens. However Brat and JF have some chances (while Nony doesnt have even a small chance in my opinion) Also if you take a look at Retired_Draco's account in iccup you will see that he lost several games to Mondragon. Mongi lost to Dreiven,and Dreiven lost to Brat. So i really think Brat has a chance to take Draco out,but i wonder if he will manage to go through JF,cuz the Canadian is VERY tricky and unexpected player (which u may NOT noticed so far) and his drops are incredibly strong,while i havent seen so far,Brat being pushed with reaver-drops so its unpredictable at all which one of them will win.
But i can tell u one thing - If JF goes to final with Draco,you can count Draco as a winner of TSL in advance.

GO BRAT
GO NONY (im still cheering for you Miracles can happen,but please dont ever start acting like Idra)
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-21 09:36:04
May 21 2008 09:35 GMT
#46
On May 21 2008 07:11 Uraeus wrote:
I am more excited by TSL than by OSL and MSL. Combined. The games so far were just awesome and the commentators do an incredible job.
Plus, the intro is the best of all leagues.
Congrats to you all TSL staff, players, and thanks to Razer.

Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
Draco
Profile Joined September 2003
Poland32 Posts
May 21 2008 11:31 GMT
#47
rofl sup
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-21 11:48:16
May 21 2008 11:46 GMT
#48
lolhi
fbi
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany19 Posts
May 21 2008 11:46 GMT
#49
rofl about the NonY fanboys^^
they think Draco is bm and NonY not??? :D just lol xD
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-21 11:57:56
May 21 2008 11:52 GMT
#50
On May 21 2008 18:20 -FS-DangerouS wrote:
Guys,lets be realistic,for christ sake !
I am talking about Nony. He is a great guy,a great player,but his level is FAR AWAY BELOW Draco's level and this is the whole truth. Now,dont get the wrong idea. I hate Draco. He is acting like a total jerk and Nony rox and i want him to win,but this is just impossible. In my opinion,Nony got LUCKY to rech the semi-finals. GOsia was a very weak oponent and thats all. If Nony played vs Dinot,White_Ra or Dreiven,he would loose for sure. You dont like it - but its called truth guys and its called reality.

Im following this even since the begining and i was really laughing when so many people were cheering for Idra. Okay,he is American,most of you guys are from USA but he is much weaker than the other players,how could u say he will win this tournament in Korea in which he participated ? Really funny ! I wasnt surprised at all,when he lost,i was just wondering when and HOW will he loose. He still has ALOT of stuff to learn,but problem is that he is ALREADY acting shitty like Draco. He said that he will win this tournament,that some people are weak (people who are obviously stronger than him) and in the end - he lost and was pwned...

But lets get back to Nony,you guys say that he has VERY STRONG PvP. Who told you that ? And who told you Jf also has very strong PvP ? And how the hell did u decided Draco's PvP is weaker than their PvP ???? CUZ ITS N O T TRUE ! I would really like Nony wins this match vs Draco,not cuz he is better player,but because he is better PERSON than the polish guy,but this is NOT going to happen. Maybe in the land of dreams,yes. Bt in here - in real life,on planet Earth this is impossible.

The guy who was supposed to take Draco out and who i still think is STRONGER than Draco was White_Ra and i really hate to see he lost,but shit happens. However Brat and JF have some chances (while Nony doesnt have even a small chance in my opinion) Also if you take a look at Retired_Draco's account in iccup you will see that he lost several games to Mondragon. Mongi lost to Dreiven,and Dreiven lost to Brat. So i really think Brat has a chance to take Draco out,but i wonder if he will manage to go through JF,cuz the Canadian is VERY tricky and unexpected player (which u may NOT noticed so far) and his drops are incredibly strong,while i havent seen so far,Brat being pushed with reaver-drops so its unpredictable at all which one of them will win.
But i can tell u one thing - If JF goes to final with Draco,you can count Draco as a winner of TSL in advance.

GO BRAT
GO NONY (im still cheering for you Miracles can happen,but please dont ever start acting like Idra)


What the fuck you talking about? lol


NonY has been ripping up the scene for more than a few months! His PvP is top notch and many would say it is his best matchup even though zvz and pvp are the most random I would take him anyday over Draco in his current state.

I'll gladly put $250 on NonY! :D

You reeeally need to be paying more attention to the scene more man in terms of showmatches, clan leagues. I'm sorry but if Draco doesn't take NonY seriously he's going to get seriously raped hard and then I'll be up 250 bucks.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
May 21 2008 12:07 GMT
#51
next TSL

:O :D
Chains none
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
May 21 2008 12:14 GMT
#52
I'm fairly sure it will be a Draco vs Brat final, and the final score will be 3-2. it's going to come down to some truly epic games
"If you can chill..........then chill."
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
May 21 2008 12:14 GMT
#53
Retired_Draco vs. Excello.NonY
winner of this takes the whole TSL
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Draco
Profile Joined September 2003
Poland32 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-22 04:20:25
May 21 2008 12:33 GMT
#54
On May 21 2008 14:51 BigBalls wrote:
you guys are arguing one minor point of the post.

in either case, draco tries to act like he can waltz his way through this competiton without putting any effort in and its sickening to see him disrespect everyone like that. not just the other players, but the entire organization, razer, and everyone who had a part in it. it really really pisses nazgul off but he feels bad posting anything because the TSL is run by his site so i decided to speak up cause its been bugging me too.

im not positive on this, but it doesnt seem like the money is the biggest factor here. neither are sc sponsorships. lets be realistic, starcraft is going to be succeeded by sc2 within the next 15 months. and the money is really nice (which lets not forget would have been funded by TL.net if razer didnt come along so generously) but its not a life changing sum. winning the TSL is so much more than those things, its like a culmination of the last 10 years of a lot of these guys lives and it vindicates all the hard work and practice they put in to try to become the best they could at this game which rarely gives a chance to show accomplishments.

and now in the biggest foreign tourney of all time with tons of people watching extremely high quality live streams with great work from a lot of people and razer, this little punk who thinks hes hot shit cause he lived in korea and only cares about the money carries around this tone of arrogance and demeans all his opponents and the hard work/dedication of tons of people putting effort into this league. i dont know if im in the minority here but it makes me fucking sick.

gl to jf, nony and brat. draco i hope your attitude improves and you learn to show some respect to everyone who is jealous of where you are now. not just the people who played and werent good enough to get this far. but the people who played years ago that have moved on to other things but still watch in excitement at this.

/end psychotic rant


Is it really that hard to undurstand that someone may have more important things in his life than StarCraft and he simply doesn't find time to practise? Can you imagine that? Shall I lie in the interviews to become in your eyes more mature and manner? Or maybe I shouldn't participate in this tournament at all if I knew from the beginning that I may hardly find time for practice? C'mon, let's add another rule "You can't join TSL unless you won't practise for it 10 games a week." What the hell?

I'm sorry to hear that guys who organize this tournament are pissed off about my interviews but I simply tell the truth. It has nothing to do with my attitude against other players and I never meant to show any disrespect to any of my opponents.

So get off my back and before you make your psychotic rants analyze more carefully my point of view.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
May 21 2008 12:57 GMT
#55
Umm NonY recently spanked White-rA, and Aleks went 2-3 with Draco in some pretty entertaining games.

I'm pretty sure NonY vs Draco will be the most entertaining games so far this season, but if anything I think the underdog is definitely Draco.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
sasal
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany74 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-21 13:30:27
May 21 2008 13:29 GMT
#56
@Draco
I think no one wants a other one to lie. One thing you could do is to point out your situation with a few more sentences right from the beginning. For example what takes your time at the moment. Then there would be less controversies about your point of view too.

The thing is that you are shortspoken in your interviews and like "I dont care what people think anyway". But if then controversies appear from that point you begin to care and start writing much. So if I would be in your situation and wouldnt care about what people think I would either do this till the end or make it easier to understand my situation right from the beginning. But thats just my thoughts and no accusations. Cuz you are confronted with this discussions and not me.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
May 21 2008 13:36 GMT
#57
Nony might have a good chance in pvp, but Draco is probably the better pvt player, that´s why I want to see a Draco vs Brat final.
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-21 14:08:10
May 21 2008 14:07 GMT
#58
@ -FS-DangerouS: Nah, I think you underestimate Nony. He has improved a lot recently and is easily top5 protoss non-kor, if not better.
Almost every game I've seen from him lately, either TSL or MYM KOTH or something other, was dominated by him.
And PvP is Draco's weakest MU, and probably (don't know for sure though) Nony's best. So I think Nony will win 3-2, but it will be close.
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
May 21 2008 14:28 GMT
#59
I'd love to see Brat vs Draco in the finals but everyone deserves to be in the finals at that point. So GL to all four players.
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-21 15:49:09
May 21 2008 14:42 GMT
#60
lol at Draco haters

if someone had his peak of interest in sc:bw, spent endless time on practice, gone to Korea to fullfil his dreams and now just taking care of his life like anyone else on this planet. But he still know how to play starcraft and wants to capitalize it.

Dracos interviews are not funny nor bm, theyre just true. Its just feels unpleasent to read beacause of this contrast. Everybody is pissing his pants in excitment about TSL (dont get me wrong its GREAT) and Draco is just cool and dettached from this.

...and about bm: Idras "eurotrash" was bm
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