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United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-10 16:46:46
December 09 2007 19:46 GMT
#1
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OSL Semifinal 1
7 December 2007


Results
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Jaedong > Up @ Persona
Jaedong > Up @ Blue Storm
Jaedong > Up @ Fantasy II
Jaedong advances 3-0 to the OSL final!

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GrandInquisitor's Results & Standings
.dragoon’s Live Report Thread

Back in 2002, Yellow and V-Gundam faced off in the finals of an OGN special event, the 2nd King of Kings tournament. Though both players were professionals who had made it to the finals by virtue of merit, their games made it glaringly obvious that Yellow was the superior player; he thrashed Gundam in three completely one-sided games. Whether it was Yellow’s multitasking, micromanagement, or game management, Gundam simply couldn’t keep pace with Yellow. It was as if Yellow couldn’t do anything wrong. When Gundam took off his headphones, his look was one of confusion and resignation.

Jaedong vs. Up reminded me of that series.

On Persona, Up went for a vulture build with a quick speed upgrade. Jaedong opted for a very fast two-hatch mutalisk opening. Instead of keeping his mutalisks around his base to prevent any prolonged vulture harassment, however, Jaedong sent them to counter-attack Up’s main. Though Jaedong ended the game with only a tiny handful of drones, his mutalisks completely denied Up the ability to mine; as close as the game seemed at the time, Jaedong’s win was guaranteed.

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Who needs drones?

The second game of Up and Jaedong’s Bo5 took place on Blue Storm. Up faked a marine and medic build by using his academy to wall off his entrance. In reality, he was hard at work on two starports. An ever-growing fleet of wraiths proceeded to take down overlord after overlord as they pecked away from time to time at Jaedong’s drones.

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Note Jaedong’s sunken colony, which had to have been an accident.

By the time Jaedong had a handle on Up’s harassment, Up had secured his natural expansion and was pumping marines and medics from five barracks.

But it didn’t really matter.

Using only mutalisks, Jaedong killed entire battalions of marines, demolished missile turrets, and most importantly, kept Up’s economy from reaching even a fraction of its potential. I was chatting with mrmin123 as the game aired, and he said, “The commentators just said that if Jaedong wins, the fact that Up was so far ahead becomes really embarrassing.” I have to agree; by the end of the game, I was cringing at the thought of being in Up’s position.

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An all-too-familiar sight when Jaedong is playing.

Up and Jaedong’s game on Fantasy was an exclamation point on the end of a one-sided series. Up spawned at the lower-right position and made a command center when his supply count reached 14, walling off his choke with two barracks a little while later. Jaedong responded by making a large number of speed-upgraded zerglings, sending two drones to mine out the small mineral wall at Up’s natural, and swarming in from that undefended angle for an easy win.

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Sorry, Up, but this just wasn’t your day.

Credit for these videos goes to yakii and BaeZZi.
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Up vs. Jaedong @ Persona
Up vs. Jaedong @ Blue Storm
Up vs. Jaedong @ Fantasy II

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All credit for creating and maintaining this incredibly cool bracket goes to pachi.

Next week, we’re beating treated to a Bo5 rematch of the MSL finals from earlier this year. Stork will be looking for revenge, and Bisu will be looking to prove that he hasn’t lost a step since his upset loss against Mind in the most-recent MSL. Will Stork’s superior PvP statistics be the deciding factor, or will Bisu’s undeniable champion spirit clinch him yet another spot in the finals? And perhaps most importantly, will Stork remember to research dragoon range?

Predictions
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When one is given two players of such a high caliber and the sheer randomness of PvP, it becomes exceedingly difficult to choose a winner. But I’m going to do it anyway, because I believe that Stork’s PvP is just plain better than Bisu’s. Using a law of statistics that I just made up, Stork should win this series and their next one to compensate for losing the first. I call it Etter’s Law of Justice in Luck-Based Matchups.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
December 09 2007 19:50 GMT
#2
You are totally right, this series looked nowhere as close as "OSL Semis" suggests. Nothing to blame Upmagic for, he fought his way into the Semis legitimately, but in these games he was demolished. It might have helped him take at least one game if he had gone for more standard play from time to time. JD vs. Light showed that JD sometimes overextends himself with his management skills and can be taken down by a plain push once you have survived the harassment. But that might have been one game, not three.
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Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
December 09 2007 19:52 GMT
#3
Nice writeup!
And I predict Stork for next week's winner because Bisu can't win an OSL until he wins his third MSL!
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
December 09 2007 19:53 GMT
#4
stork 3-1 bisu
and then
jaedong 3-2 stork
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
December 09 2007 20:04 GMT
#5
Go Stork!
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Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
December 09 2007 20:23 GMT
#6
I feel sorry for Up. He had the 2nd game, but after the embarrassing turn-over the 3rd game was just pre-decided.

Bisu should win against Stork, but in a very close games is my opinion.
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Barbarne
Profile Joined August 2007
Sweden458 Posts
December 09 2007 20:40 GMT
#7
After the game, I felt that Estro should be put to the grave or something that would let Up come to a better team and learn how to maximize his potential. Cause he has so much of it.

I hope Stork beats Bisu, after his ridiculous loss in MSL survivor he needs to win this to redeem himself.
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
December 09 2007 20:49 GMT
#8
Bisu 3 - 1 Stork
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 09 2007 21:14 GMT
#9
Or the "luck" could be Bisu being Bisu. *coughs*

3-2 Bisu. Yar.
Thinkingling
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden15 Posts
December 09 2007 21:26 GMT
#10
Really nice writeup, it's like the work of a professional writer!
edzwoo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States469 Posts
December 09 2007 21:26 GMT
#11
I can't agree that Stork will beat Bisu. It is very notable that Bisu sucks during the proleague, showing he obviously doesn't put in nearly as much practice time into it compared to individual leagues. I admit his showing against free was very one-sided, and he lost badly, but take a look at the MSL finals again from last year.

The first and second game showed Bisu taking immediate economical advantages directly from the opening with zealot micro. The first game, though they had the same build, Bisu took out Stork's freaking natural expo. The second game showed Bisu taking out 4 probes with just 1 zealot.

The third game, Stork managed to get something like SEVEN zealots into Bisu's base, though only killing a few probes.

Nobody doubts that Stork is an amazing player, but I get the feeling he becomes nervous when facing the STRONGEST players (e.g. Savior, Bisu...). Bisu plays to the best of his ability regardless of who he plays, so I feel the matches will be very one-sided against Stork in normal games. Stork only won two games off Bisu using better builds.
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
December 09 2007 21:56 GMT
#12
On December 10 2007 06:26 edzwoo wrote:
I can't agree that Stork will beat Bisu. It is very notable that Bisu sucks during the proleague, showing he obviously doesn't put in nearly as much practice time into it compared to individual leagues. I admit his showing against free was very one-sided, and he lost badly, but take a look at the MSL finals again from last year.

The first and second game showed Bisu taking immediate economical advantages directly from the opening with zealot micro. The first game, though they had the same build, Bisu took out Stork's freaking natural expo. The second game showed Bisu taking out 4 probes with just 1 zealot.

The third game, Stork managed to get something like SEVEN zealots into Bisu's base, though only killing a few probes.

Nobody doubts that Stork is an amazing player, but I get the feeling he becomes nervous when facing the STRONGEST players (e.g. Savior, Bisu...). Bisu plays to the best of his ability regardless of who he plays, so I feel the matches will be very one-sided against Stork in normal games. Stork only won two games off Bisu using better builds.
I get the feeling bisu actually performs better when he plays against proven good players, as if he's more motivated prove that he is even better or something. Against sub-astonishing opponents he often disappoints.
Pervert
Profile Joined October 2007
Korea (South)89 Posts
December 09 2007 22:35 GMT
#13
I hope Stork beats Bisu so that the finals won't be so one-sided.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 09 2007 22:42 GMT
#14
I'd like to add a corollary to Etter's Law of Justice in Luck-Based Matchups; "When one of the players is Bisu, said player automatically wins".
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
December 09 2007 22:47 GMT
#15
Winning the OSL is easy! I predict Jaedong to be victorious.
And who can blame him. His play is phenomenal, clearly *the* best zerg player atm.

Also I predict Stork for finals =)
O_o
fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
December 09 2007 23:08 GMT
#16
On December 10 2007 07:47 Stegosaur wrote:
His play is phenomenal, clearly *the* best zerg player atm.

wtf savior lol x_x

... I hope for Stork vs JD in the finals, cause JD wouldnt stand a chance against Bisus PvZ 8[
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Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
December 09 2007 23:14 GMT
#17
If series were Rock vs Bisu and Rock won, I bet many of us would have hard time picking a favorite. Remember Rock's "Roarrrrr"? After weakest mu vs weakest mu Rock vs Jaedong Starchallenge final... I sense randomness.
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AaO)Ace
Profile Joined November 2007
United States50 Posts
December 09 2007 23:16 GMT
#18
I think games will go like this.
Bisu > Stork 3-0
Jaedong > Bisu 3-0

Bisu might beat Jaedong in one game if he can do a proxy 2 gate or something...maybe. But Jaedong Mutas > Bisu Corsairs, even if Bisu dual stargates. And DTs/Reavers won't mean anything against superior mutalisks.

Haha jk..
3-2 stork > bisu
3-1 stork > jaedong
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 09 2007 23:53 GMT
#19
The 2nd game was the best game overall because I thought Jaedong would lose for sho, but then he came back to wipe out Up's natural, very exciting. The ling manuever on the last match was also great because you knew what was gonna happen but Up's was clueless.

Thanks for the report.
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uppTagg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden473 Posts
December 09 2007 23:53 GMT
#20
I hate Stork -_- I hope he gets demolished by Bisu!

All the way for OSL champ and revenge for MSL loss! ^^;

Bisu build. ftw!
men du... Tagga!
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 10 2007 03:21 GMT
#21
Fuck! Hwasin should have been the one in UpMagics position seriously! T_T
w/e
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 10 2007 04:16 GMT
#22
Stork will lose his head and forget to upgrade scarab damage this game, or carrier inteceptor, or ground weapon.
U wait.
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beyondie
Profile Joined September 2007
Niger112 Posts
December 10 2007 04:44 GMT
#23
Stork needs to make an effort and research dragoon range haha
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 10 2007 04:55 GMT
#24
On December 10 2007 13:16 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Stork will lose his head and forget to upgrade scarab damage this game, or carrier inteceptor, or ground weapon.
U wait.


Stork after game: I would have won if I mined minerals.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
December 10 2007 05:14 GMT
#25
I can't help but think that Jaedong is going to take it all. I looked at his schedule, and he has a proleague match against STX tonight (on ZvZ, probably his best matchup), and proleague matches against ACE and eStro next week. That means that he will be practicing nothing but ZvP (with some help from free I'm sure, free seems to have Bisu down cold and he helped mind take down bisu in the MSL finals) for two whole weeks, while bisu and stork will be practicing for their match for each other and possibly other proleague matches. I think Jaedong will win the OSL, 3-1 no matter who his opponent is
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iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
December 10 2007 06:41 GMT
#26
the better Protoss shall take down the ugly Zerg, you shall see.
Xellos <3
ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
December 10 2007 07:44 GMT
#27
please stork win!! if bisu wins its gonna be a dreadful final to watch (for a zerg fan)
go OVERSKY MODE!
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 10 2007 10:59 GMT
#28
I think I'm going to feel dumb watching the finals cheering for Jaedong against a protoss, but for some reason, I think I will still do it.
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PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
December 10 2007 12:40 GMT
#29
this is one time that i actually want a zerg to utterly crush and demolish a protoss.
oh, my liquibet goes to stork
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
December 10 2007 15:09 GMT
#30
nice thanks
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
December 10 2007 15:52 GMT
#31
Im hoping for stork to lose seriously,
if he loses again to bisu and said he forgot to [insert some random bullshit], the whole community will hate him.
But stork PvP/PvT is the real deal, so... T_T
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-10 17:29:15
December 10 2007 17:28 GMT
#32
This battle report was flipping awesome. I like the law that you came up with. Actually, sometimes on liquibet I factor in that law.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
December 10 2007 18:06 GMT
#33
On December 10 2007 08:16 AaO)Ace wrote:
I think games will go like this.
Bisu > Stork 3-0
Jaedong > Bisu 3-0

Bisu might beat Jaedong in one game if he can do a proxy 2 gate or something...maybe. But Jaedong Mutas > Bisu Corsairs, even if Bisu dual stargates. And DTs/Reavers won't mean anything against superior mutalisks.

Haha jk..
3-2 stork > bisu
3-1 stork > jaedong

Ha I just read the first part and I was about to ask you for some of whatever it is you were smoking.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
December 10 2007 18:44 GMT
#34
On December 10 2007 08:08 willKeks wrote:
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On December 10 2007 07:47 Stegosaur wrote:
His play is phenomenal, clearly *the* best zerg player atm.

wtf savior lol x_x

... I hope for Stork vs JD in the finals, cause JD wouldnt stand a chance against Bisus PvZ 8[


As much as I love Mae, I have to disagree. Jaedong has been in top shape recently while Savior has been showing cracks, and to be honest, Savior is past his prime while Jaedong is still improving and getting better with every game. This OSL's final will show if his PvZ is up there with his other two awesome matchups, and by god I hope it is.

On a sidenote the mutalisks of game 2 made me cheer in real life, in my room, on my own. The way he handled both groups was phenomenal!
O_o
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 11 2007 04:29 GMT
#35
On December 11 2007 03:44 Stegosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2007 08:08 willKeks wrote:
On December 10 2007 07:47 Stegosaur wrote:
His play is phenomenal, clearly *the* best zerg player atm.

wtf savior lol x_x

... I hope for Stork vs JD in the finals, cause JD wouldnt stand a chance against Bisus PvZ 8[


As much as I love Mae, I have to disagree. Jaedong has been in top shape recently while Savior has been showing cracks, and to be honest, Savior is past his prime while Jaedong is still improving and getting better with every game. This OSL's final will show if his PvZ is up there with his other two awesome matchups, and by god I hope it is.

On a sidenote the mutalisks of game 2 made me cheer in real life, in my room, on my own. The way he handled both groups was phenomenal!

you know I think if we see more of JD's ZvP, and it turns out to be much better than he's shown before... perhaps taking a game or 2 away from Bisu himself, I think it would be safe to say that JD is ready to take Savior's throne.
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Smoov
Profile Joined May 2007
United States37 Posts
December 11 2007 05:19 GMT
#36
hopin' for a bisu/jaedong final.....among the top level of players, i consider stork to be the most boring player to watch...
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-11 06:45:31
December 11 2007 06:43 GMT
#37
On December 10 2007 07:35 Pervert wrote:
I hope Stork beats Bisu so that the finals won't be so one-sided.


Are you crazy? If Stork wins, then the finals would be the most one sided series ever, he's gonna lose so bad to jaedong(the best zerg currently) with his crappy PvZ, it won't be even funny.

Bisu 3:1 Stork
Bisu 3:2 Jaedong
I'll call Nada.
w3jjjj
Profile Joined April 2007
United States760 Posts
December 11 2007 10:02 GMT
#38
jaedong is definitely praying for stork's victory over bisu, no zerg wants to fight that guy.
Chuck Norris can salvage his opponent's structures.
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
December 11 2007 15:42 GMT
#39
BISU BISU BISU BISU.
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
December 13 2007 14:31 GMT
#40
Bisu is going to crush. Or at least I hope he is.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-13 15:03:40
December 13 2007 15:02 GMT
#41
Reading "luck-based" just breaks my heart. And while I think some people are joking about range upgrade, I fear that most people seriously believe that had Stork upgraded goon range, he would have won that game.

Anyway, I think if anyone is tired of the "make a prediction" culture that TL.net has fostered for so long, then now is the perfect time to throw it off. Not only is this match nearly impossible to predict, but it's looking to be one of the best matches to simply watch and enjoy. #1 and #2 KeSPA, a rematch, both have something to prove, both are the favorite to win the finals. I'd hate to see someone not fully enjoy the genius and skill of either Bisu or Stork simply because in the back of their mind they're disappointed that their prediction is failing or because they have a stupid grudge against one of them for eliminating their favorite player or doing a stupid ceremony.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-13 18:40:45
December 13 2007 18:39 GMT
#42
On December 14 2007 00:02 NonY[rC] wrote:
Reading "luck-based" just breaks my heart. And while I think some people are joking about range upgrade, I fear that most people seriously believe that had Stork upgraded goon range, he would have won that game.

Anyway, I think if anyone is tired of the "make a prediction" culture that TL.net has fostered for so long, then now is the perfect time to throw it off. Not only is this match nearly impossible to predict, but it's looking to be one of the best matches to simply watch and enjoy. #1 and #2 KeSPA, a rematch, both have something to prove, both are the favorite to win the finals. I'd hate to see someone not fully enjoy the genius and skill of either Bisu or Stork simply because in the back of their mind they're disappointed that their prediction is failing or because they have a stupid grudge against one of them for eliminating their favorite player or doing a stupid ceremony.


so true
Bisu #1 KeSPA, being hot after the Savior showdown. Wanting a title after the MSL defeat.
Stork #2 KeSPA being a PvP beast, 42-20. Wanting to show who's the best toss player and revenge for the MSL exit a few months back.

We can expect both players to practice, prepair and do their very very best.

For toss fans and everyone else this should be a game to watch, no mather who you root for. Just sit back and enjoy
BaeZZi *
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Korea (North)116 Posts
December 13 2007 22:22 GMT
#43
Stork is the supreme commander of Toss
Bisu is a revolutionist of Toss

Stork will take up the position that Bisu who only creates heaven and Toss planet, is guilty of high treason in Stork view, that's why (Bisu) two warriors of new Dark-Templar with a Cosair conspire against Stork who be under High-Templar escort.



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iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
December 23 2007 18:16 GMT
#44
I tried to comprehend your last sentence but failed miserably.
Xellos <3
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