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Challenge League Update - Week 4 Results

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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
Last Edited: 2002-11-12 23:15:06
November 12 2002 17:15 GMT
#1
Group D players fought it out yesterday for two spots in the next Duel Tournament:

GROUP D

1. forU (P) (aka [Dak]ddong) ("Lee Jae-hoon") < Jinsu (Z) ("Jang Jin-su") - Neo Forbidden Zone
2. Shinya (P) ("Bak Dong-wook") > [Nag]Doggi (T) - Neo Forbidden Zone
3. Shinya (P) < Jinsu (Z) - Avant Garde II -> Jinsu qualifies for Duel Tournament
4. forU (P) > [Nag]Doggi (T) - Gaema Gowon
5. forU (P) > Shinya (P) - Neo Bifrost -> forU qualifies for Duel Tournament

No real surprises in terms of results. Jinsu's perhaps a notch below his older and more-renowned twin brother Jinnam, but he's still one of the more dangerous Zerg users in Korea. Didn't really finesse anything this time, tho. Basically won both matches v P by throwing waves of full-armor-upgraded ultralisks at the hapless Protoss - out-expoed his opponents and climbed straight to ultras. The ultras really weren't necessary v Shinya (a very one-sided affair, almost from the beginning), but forU put up a serious fight and had several opportunities to win it. In the end, Lee would have done better if he had crippled even a couple of Jinsu's expos. Also had no counter for the 12 or so ultras that kept coming at him every 2 mins. Jinsu's not had much luck with Starleague entry so far, but perhaps it'll be different this time.

And speaking of forU, Jae-hoon's claim to fame these days is his ownage of Nada in almost any match they play - no one can explain it, he just does. On the other hand, forU's also maybe the most famous Protoss user in Korea never to win anything major (depressingly neck-and-neck with Nal_Ra in this department...). But despite his mixed record, Lee's head-and-shoulders above most of the Challenge League crowd and did a great job of coming back from his tough first match loss v Jinsu to make it through in the end. Did well pushing Doggi's defenses and choking him with goons and lots, while out-teching a fast-expanding Shinya and overwhelming him with DTs before obs were out. Wish him the best in the Duel Tournament.

A final comment: virtually all of the players, with the exception of Shinya, were using funky ids I'd never seen before. This is getting tiresome how the players keep giving themselves new ids each time they make a tournament appearance. It's confusing for the fans and it adds NOTHING to the game. If gamers want to be taken seriously (and presumably they do - why else call themselves PROFESSIONAL gamers?) this sort of whimsical name-changing, as funny as it can be at times ("Choi In-gyu's Jae Ja" by ElkY one of my favorites), has got to stop. You don't see baseball teams trying out different names for the hell of it. You don't even see pro wrestlers do it (well, at least not often - who knew Stone Cold Steve Austin used to be called The Ringmaster?). I think it's time gamers followed similar rules.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
Last Edited: 2002-11-12 18:01:04
November 12 2002 17:58 GMT
#2
Nice newz report as usual. Happy to hear ddong/forU did well. Almost all of my recent pvt replay downloads (many of KTF) have been terran owning Toss. T_T

I agree 100% final comment. These players are known by their IDs outside of Korea. Once built up, names have credibility, power and value. Companies sue other companies for trademark and copyright infringment for that reason. The only name change that I liked was HOT486 -> HOT-Forever. He's still HOT
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
November 12 2002 18:04 GMT
#3
why hasn't the starleague began yet?
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
November 12 2002 18:27 GMT
#4
Starleague starts this Friday in Seoul. I'll be uploading a preview of it tomorrow...
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Anti-MatteR!
Profile Joined October 2002
United States5 Posts
November 12 2002 18:31 GMT
#5
I'd say [dak]dDong id change to forU was much better.

Anything is better than "Chicken Shit"
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 13 2002 01:21 GMT
#6
Gl jinsu!
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Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
November 13 2002 02:44 GMT
#7
Zerg PoWeR! Every Zerg in duel tournament = good, although I'm still disappointed in Junior and Black not making their way there... T_T

And mensrea, nice news, we love u!1
River me timbers.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
November 13 2002 03:05 GMT
#8
About the VODs. From WCG it was quite easy to copy the vods, but when I use the same space+click method for ogn vods, i receive a "file not found" error after the mms url have been achieved from the .asx file ._. How can I get t3h v0dz f0r d0wnload
River me timbers.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
November 13 2002 06:31 GMT
#9
Muhweli > that's something that always happens with Ongamenet VODs. It says "File not found", but this doesn't mean the file doesn't exist, it just means the server is too busy.

The best way to get them is to let SVCR try for a long time... a *very* long time usually.
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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
November 13 2002 08:01 GMT
#10
OMG

-Mynock
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
November 13 2002 08:26 GMT
#11
Ehm, I mean of course... OGN

-Mynock
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
November 13 2002 09:58 GMT
#12
Mensrea, what do you want to say? older and still twins, really?

"Jinsu's perhaps a notch below his older and more-renowned twin brother Jinnam"
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
November 13 2002 11:31 GMT
#13
hey benny jinnam is older by several minutes, and yes they are still twins. Its not a contradiction
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
November 13 2002 14:49 GMT
#14
oki thx.
Btw are there any good replays or VOD's of 2vs2 involving the JinTwins? I've heard they were the best 22 team ever, must be entertaining!
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