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Daum OSL - Semifinal 1 - Iris vs. Stork

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United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 01:41:47
July 04 2007 23:39 GMT
#1
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Stork is 21-3 PvT in 2007. Let me repeat that. Stork is 21-3 PvT in 2007. That's a staggering achievement, and there's no question that Stork is the favorite to take this series. So does Iris have a chance? Can he even hope to win three games in a single night when it took Stork six months to lose that many?

Well, yeah. Here’s why:



OSL Semifinal #1
July 6
18:30 Korean


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Stork (P) vs. Iris (T)
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Thanks for the images, KizZBG!

Game 1 – Monty Hall

I discussed Monty Hall's TvP balance last week, but it really comes down to this: the longer the game, the better the chance that the Terran will win. The large amount of gas gives Terran players the ability to have a high tank count and get early upgrades, and cliffs overlook all of the late game expansions, giving the Terran excellent late-game resource control. It's no surprise that so many Protoss players have employed proxy builds; they're looking to win the game early. I'm expecting Stork, however, to play safely at the beginning of the game with the objective of getting carriers before things drag on for too long. Iris' challenge will be to use his (presumably many) comsat stations to spot those carriers before they reach a critical mass and time his push accordingly.

Game 2 – Hitchhiker

Hitchhiker is a tough PvT map, and it's not hard to see why: the narrow, narrow path running down the middle of the map is like something out of a Terran player's wet dream. The typical Protoss strategy on maps like Hitchhiker—maps where one really doesn't want to fight with a ground army—is to use reavers to delay the Terran push until carriers. But Stork varied that strategy a bit in one of his games on Hitchhiker by going double-nexus, using a reaver to force turrets and scatter the Terran army, and finally using his brief economic advantage (from the double-nexus) to crack the Terran natural with a lot of zealots. Iris' goal should be to get to the late game; it's almost impossible to halt a massive Terran push in such thin passages. Stork is 2-0 PvT on Hitchhiker, but the map favors Terran 8-6 in the matchup.

Game 3 – Fantasy

There's no question that Fantasy is an excellent PvT map. With its long push distances and relatively open middle, Protoss players are able to do what they do best: form a big, perpendicular line of dragoons and send them into the fray with zealots charging in from behind. Current statistics favor Protoss 3-0 against Terran on Fantasy. I honestly have no idea what Iris can do to win this game, but I'm looking forward to seeing what he's prepared!

Game 4 – Python

Python, along with Arcadia and Tau Cross, is one of the most balanced maps ever created, but it does feature some positional, well, difficulties, especially when it comes to TvP. The normally-simple Terran act of setting up a push and securing that crucial third mineral line is obscenely difficult if the Protoss player is fortunate enough to have cross positions. Conversely, positions of 12/3 or 6/9 give the Terran player the option of slowly but surely creeping up the side of his main while securing the mineral-only expansion and putting himself in only minimal danger. Or the Terran can use a dropship or two to push directly into the Protoss main while supporting those troops with tanks from the available island expansion. I'm not sure which tactic is more difficult to combat, but neither is pleasant. Python's balance is most-evident when the positions are 12/9 or 3/6; Terran players are left with a shorter push and the option of taking the corner gas expansion, but they are unable to abuse the islands or support their push from their elevated main base.

Game 5 – Monty Hall

Though I doubt too many people are expecting it, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the series make it this far, which would be a huge treat for fans. Stork hasn't had nearly the amount of practice time that Iris has, and although I don't give Iris much of a chance to win on Fantasy, he can win on Monty, Hitchhiker, and Python (assuming that he gets a positional "boost"). The only real note about the final game of a Bo5 is that players tend to come prepared with an ace strategy that they've saved for that final, "if necessary" game. This series has the potential to be great!

Here's what the rest of Team Liquid had to say:

SuperJongMan: "Stork's PvT is so ridiculous, if he grabs an advantage, he does not let it go. Period. Iris is strong, but no terran is stopping Stork, don't be silly."

HonestTea: "This series will be decided by one aspect alone: Build Orders. The Two-Fac, 1-Fac, Obs-Goon, Reaver, FD, FE, DT dance."

Manifesto7: "Iris only has one matchup left to prove; his TvP. Stork is the perfect guy to do it against because he is a protoss suitable for Iris' steady style. Someone like rA or Pusan might be too funky for him, but vs Stork Iris knows he can play his own game."
Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-04 23:41:19
July 04 2007 23:40 GMT
#2
Stork again
By.Flash fighting
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
July 04 2007 23:47 GMT
#3
Nice read as always Etter!

Looking foward to ur power rank!
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 05 2007 00:13 GMT
#4
Stork :D
nice etter
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
July 05 2007 00:23 GMT
#5
beautiful write up, gogostork
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
July 05 2007 01:15 GMT
#6
Nice writeup.

Iris & Stork pics:

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eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 05 2007 01:20 GMT
#7
keke, as soon as I read the *updated* pvt stats of stork, I would have known the outcome of last night's match against FBH...

BUT I WATCHED, SO I DONT CARE~~
GO Stork~~
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
July 05 2007 01:24 GMT
#8
I really don't try very hard to appease the spoiler police. If it belongs in the analysis, I put it there. ^^
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 05 2007 01:28 GMT
#9
Looking forward to this series.

+ Show Spoiler +
It would be kind of a snub at FBH if Stork loses this series, after beating him in the MSL.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 05 2007 01:32 GMT
#10
birdtoss for the double title
make me happy
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
July 05 2007 01:43 GMT
#11
i won't make any predictions 'cause i suck;
i'm hoping for good games while rooting for Iris
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 05 2007 01:49 GMT
#12
So which Terrans have actually beaten Stork?
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 05 2007 02:20 GMT
#13
FBH twice (today in semifinals), Sea.Leta once (in Proleague on Tau Cross. Was an awesome game btw, very similar to Nada vs Anytime Game 5 @ Shinhan 2 OSL finals, only better).
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 05 2007 03:38 GMT
#14
Yep you should watch the Leta game when you have time
good dropship and vult play i think :D
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
July 05 2007 03:44 GMT
#15
will the power rank come out any day now or are you waiting for the season to end? just curious
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 03:45:34
July 05 2007 03:45 GMT
#16
On July 05 2007 12:38 Pressure wrote:
Yep you should watch the Leta game when you have time
good dropship and vult play i think :D


Game 1
Sea.Leta < Tau Cross > Stork
Download

This is like the 3rd time I've linked this but everyone should watch it of they haven't. :D
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 03:47:49
July 05 2007 03:46 GMT
#17
On July 05 2007 12:44 Aepplet wrote:
will the power rank come out any day now or are you waiting for the season to end? just curious

Tomorrow morning. It's mostly written, but I'm probably going to be too busy to finish it tonight. (I'm at work right now. Don't tell.)

Plus, I'd like to see Iris TvP, too.
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
July 05 2007 03:47 GMT
#18
gogo iris tomorrow stork is
23-6 PvT ^^
우리는 대-한민국입니다
Asakura
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Germany471 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 04:19:40
July 05 2007 04:19 GMT
#19
STORK, GO

GO

GOOOOOOOOOOO!

I BELIEVE! YOU'RE THE BEST AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!
Man is disturbed not by things, but by the views he takes of them. (Epictetus)
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 05 2007 04:25 GMT
#20
Awesome report DJ. You almost convinced me that Iris has a chance...almost.

On July 05 2007 10:32 Carnac wrote:
birdtoss for the double title
make me happy


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TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 05 2007 04:51 GMT
#21
On July 05 2007 12:45 KizZBG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2007 12:38 Pressure wrote:
Yep you should watch the Leta game when you have time
good dropship and vult play i think :D


Game 1
Sea.Leta < Tau Cross > Stork
Download

This is like the 3rd time I've linked this but everyone should watch it of they haven't. :D


Thanks very much, KizZBG!
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
July 05 2007 04:51 GMT
#22
StOrk in 4.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 05 2007 05:17 GMT
#23
How dumb would I feel if Iris lost?

But then how dumb would I feel if I honestly thought Iris is gonna win...

O starcraft... you hurt my head.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
July 05 2007 05:30 GMT
#24
On July 05 2007 12:46 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2007 12:44 Aepplet wrote:
will the power rank come out any day now or are you waiting for the season to end? just curious

(I'm at work right now. Don't tell.)

Im at work, monitoring ur internetz.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
July 05 2007 05:50 GMT
#25
On July 05 2007 13:51 TarsTarkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2007 12:45 KizZBG wrote:
On July 05 2007 12:38 Pressure wrote:
Yep you should watch the Leta game when you have time
good dropship and vult play i think :D


Game 1
Sea.Leta < Tau Cross > Stork
Download

This is like the 3rd time I've linked this but everyone should watch it of they haven't. :D


Thanks very much, KizZBG!

x2
just watched it; stork got so newbed, never knew what hit him and where
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 05 2007 06:12 GMT
#26
Stork 3-1.
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oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
July 05 2007 07:18 GMT
#27
anyone know Iris's TvP stats this year?
Fuck KeSPA.
DOgMeAt
Profile Joined August 2005
Czech Republic142 Posts
July 05 2007 07:30 GMT
#28
rofl sexy terran :D
Ban Baal
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
July 05 2007 08:10 GMT
#29
I just hope Stork only makes it, eventually ending up to get rolled by Flash in the finals.
Commentator
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9016 Posts
July 05 2007 08:14 GMT
#30
Stork vs Flash go go
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 05 2007 09:11 GMT
#31
Go Stork!
Good luck, although I am sure you will do well without it.
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
July 05 2007 09:14 GMT
#32
If it comes to stork vs flash ill be happy regardless of who wins, as long as its 3-2.

Stork is a great player, I consider myself a stork fan.
Flash is a great player, I consider myself a flash fan.

Flash is a royal roader candidate, and a young player, I really respect his dedication despite his age.

Stork is an older player, and I respect all the older playes.

The best of two worlds.
Fuck KeSPA.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
July 05 2007 09:19 GMT
#33
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Watch out for the BIRDMAN BRRRRRRRR
returns upon momentous occasions.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 05 2007 09:27 GMT
#34
Btw Sea.Leta was amazing in that game vs Stork
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
July 05 2007 10:00 GMT
#35
gigogogogo stor|<
w/e
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 11:00:04
July 05 2007 10:58 GMT
#36
On July 05 2007 18:14 oshibori_probe wrote:
If it comes to stork vs flash ill be happy regardless of who wins, as long as its 3-2.

Stork is a great player, I consider myself a stork fan.
Flash is a great player, I consider myself a flash fan.

Flash is a royal roader candidate, and a young player, I really respect his dedication despite his age.

Stork is an older player, and I respect all the older playes.

The best of two worlds.

Dude, stork is something like 19
;p
Older player = Nal_rA, Garimto, they are at least approaching their 30s or in their mid 20s. Even though it's still not exactly old.

Rooting hard for stork tho, bisu for MSL (although stork winning wont break my heart), stork for OSL! Stork vs GGPlay final with Stork finally winning would be sweet (+GGPlay is good so it wouldn't be a disaster if he won).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 11:33:24
July 05 2007 11:29 GMT
#37
Stork will NOT lose this. He played silly after his 2:0 lead versus FBH, but game 5 showed no Terran in the universe can stop the Birdtoss in full flight right now. 3:1 Stork.

That said, Iris's perfect sense of timing is probably the best foil possible to Stork.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
July 05 2007 12:48 GMT
#38
Once again I want both players to win .

Iris deserves it more tho.
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 05 2007 13:18 GMT
#39
Bad feelings for Stork..
http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=iris&word2=stork
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
July 05 2007 13:32 GMT
#40
Stork will win this and give further support to "the prophecy" of the Emperor.
日本語が分かりますか
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
July 05 2007 17:06 GMT
#41
Amazing preview. Thanks.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
July 05 2007 17:48 GMT
#42
how fuckass is that pic of Beserker? pity he'll lose though
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 05 2007 18:49 GMT
#43
On July 06 2007 02:48 RebelHeart wrote:
how fuckass is that pic of Beserker? pity he'll lose though

IN UR FACE
:DDD
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
July 05 2007 21:40 GMT
#44
STORK WTH WERE YOU DOING!!
That series was just sad and pathetic to watch.
1st game was nice play from Iris though, the other 2 was just retarded to watch.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
July 06 2007 00:58 GMT
#45
+ Show Spoiler +
21-6 PVT now then.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
July 06 2007 14:07 GMT
#46
"Python, along with Arcadia and Tau Cross, is one of the most balanced maps ever created" lol joke?
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
July 06 2007 14:43 GMT
#47
Statistically.
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8748 Posts
July 08 2007 19:59 GMT
#48
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"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
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