Sort of split over this. While I feel hearthstone isn't close to big enough to warrant a sister-site, nor do I feel it's competitive and deep enough to warrant a TL site, I think it's good that TL splits up before going too big. In a sense, I feel a LiquidDota.com site would have been motivated, if it's motivated for hearthstone (then again, if there was a liquiddota site, I sort of doubt I would go to teamliquid.net at all anymore, and I still read blogs, general forum and other games forum a lot but haven't been in an SC2 subforum for ages).

I mean, when TL released the Dota part of the website, I was in a mean way enjoying that Dota 2 got cred as a competitive esport in a way LoL didn't because LoL didn't get it's own part of TL, I felt TL was being picky in a good way about what they wanted to cover. But now that Hearthstone is getting its own site, one has to wonder, since I certainly find LoL far more competitive than Hearthstone which is a really casual game.

Who knows how it develops though, will certainly spend some time on liquidhearth to see what's going down.

Dinotramp

Nauru2871 Posts

January 15 2014 08:16 GMT

#145

It's a real shame to split the community like this. I spent a little time on the Hearthstone threads on TL but now I have to go to a completely different site, I don't see myself doing that at all. It looks nice but it's a real sham to cut it off from everything else.

teapoted

United Kingdom24425 Posts

January 15 2014 08:46 GMT

#146

I think splitting off into a new site makes perfect sense. And it's good for hearthstone because they don't appear to really have much of a site like TL. Sure they have a couple of websites that have popped up but they are all personality/content driven and not so much community driven. And this should make people less angry than when Dota was added because it's not in the same news feed.

I won't personally be using it until several expansions have been released however, as to be honest I feel it's a bit shallow. Not from an 'esports perspective', but even from a casual perspective, it got old pretty fast. Maybe I'm difficult to please, but I don't understand how people who got it when it first came out in closed beta are still interested in playing it. But that's neither here nor there, the game has potential.

m0ck

4194 Posts

January 15 2014 09:07 GMT

#147

Gotta catch 'em all!

eieio

United States14512 Posts

January 15 2014 09:16 GMT

#148

Thrilled to see TL covering Hearthstone! The new site looks great and I'm happy to have it.

That being said, as a heavy TL user(and occasional poster) I don't like the fact that liquidhearth is a separate site. I really like having TL as my main source for SC2 and Dota, and TL having a second site for Hearthstone just means I'll have two ESPORTS tabs open instead of one.

However, I can accept the idea that folks like Nazgul know better than me. Either way, I really hope that liquidhearth succeeds and I'll be checking it regularly(but make sure to add TL+ integration: I feel guilty blocking TL adds but banner adds that have movement are a no-go for me).

dizzy101

Netherlands2066 Posts

January 15 2014 09:33 GMT

#149

On January 15 2014 09:34 TheEmulator wrote:
The LoL forum isn't gone? There is a possibility it just got removed from your sidebar. Go to settings and check if it's activated.

Hmm, now I see that it's there. Goes to show, the forum navigation on TL is not intuitive at all.

The filter-options make finding the right forum even harder. Too many bells and whistles.

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

January 15 2014 10:31 GMT

#150

I guess the overcrowding issue is legitimate because I look at about 2 vertical screens of sidebar because I have dota, SC2 and LoL activated. One thing I would like to see is something like an affiliate site link somewhere on TL itself. I really do like hearthstone, but I also frequent TL lol and look at bits and pieces of other forums that catch my eye. I like the ability to just scroll down and see if any threads get bumped, or if anything new I haven't seen happens.

I would hate if TL fragmented any further though, because in all honesty, I like the one big mess that is the TL sidebar with 2 screens of stuff to scan.

Sok4R

Germany124 Posts

January 15 2014 10:41 GMT

#151

Wow, I mean that was unexcepted.
But seriously, does it really requiere a dedicated site for it? I know that Hearthstone is very popular, but why not integrate it like Dota2.

WindWolf

Sweden11767 Posts

January 15 2014 11:05 GMT

#152

And as someone else mentioned, why didn't Dota2 also get it's own TL site?

Golden Ghost

Netherlands1041 Posts

January 15 2014 11:31 GMT

#153

Although I agree in principle with the split it feels awkward to have them as two totally different sites.
Has it been discussed to set TeamLiquid up more as the Liquipedia portal?

If you go to the Liquipedia portal you then have to choose for the specific Liquipedia you want to go to (SC/SC2/Dota/HS).
Isn't it possible to do the same for TeamLiquid to have a portal where you have to choose between.
- RTS (where you have SC/SC2 coverage and all relevant fora)
- MOBA (where you have Dota2 coverage and all relevant fora and the LoL forum)
- Cardgames (where you have HearthStone coverage and all relevant fora)
- TeamLiquid Pro (with everything related to the Pro teams)
This also makes it easier if TL want's to expand their coverage to shooters/fightgames or other games in the current genres.

Or even better a shared mainpage with only general news, blogs and the community fora and a big button that leads you to a separate section with the fora and news for that specific game genre. This imo would keep the site more coherent and maintains a solid feeling of togetherness while still separating the genres enough to avoid the clutter of everything on the same site.

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

January 15 2014 11:41 GMT

#154

On January 15 2014 20:31 Golden Ghost wrote:
Although I agree in principle with the split it feels awkward to have them as two totally different sites.
Has it been discussed to set TeamLiquid up more as the Liquipedia portal?

If you go to the Liquipedia portal you then have to choose for the specific Liquipedia you want to go to (SC/SC2/Dota/HS).
Isn't it possible to do the same for TeamLiquid to have a portal where you have to choose between.
- RTS (where you have SC/SC2 coverage and all relevant fora)
- MOBA (where you have Dota2 coverage and all relevant fora and the LoL forum)
- Cardgames (where you have HearthStone coverage and all relevant fora)
- TeamLiquid Pro (with everything related to the Pro teams)
This also makes it easier if TL want's to expand their coverage to shooters/fightgames or other games in the current genres.

Or even better a shared mainpage with only general news, blogs and the community fora and a big button that leads you to a separate section with the fora and news for that specific game genre. This imo would keep the site more coherent and maintains a solid feeling of togetherness while still separating the genres enough to avoid the clutter of everything on the same site.

One problem with that is there are people like me(and numerous others) who follow more than one game. I like being able to skim down one gigantic sidebar and see a ton of relevant and not-so-relevant content.

FSKi

United States901 Posts

January 15 2014 11:45 GMT

#155

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Cricketer12

United States13974 Posts

January 15 2014 11:49 GMT

#156

I am so honored to be a part of the creation of this :D

WindWolf

Sweden11767 Posts

January 15 2014 11:51 GMT

#157

On January 15 2014 20:41 Amui wrote:

Show nested quote +

Exactly also why I think that TL should make HS a part of TLnet instead of having it's own site

Manifesto7

Osaka27149 Posts

January 15 2014 12:11 GMT

#158

As evidenced by TLPro.com. Jack of all trades, master of none.

Stinkie

Germany16 Posts

January 15 2014 12:51 GMT

#159

I wish you would have done this with dota 2 too.

Anyways, good job!

Wildmoon

Thailand4189 Posts

January 15 2014 12:53 GMT

#160

HS is a cool game and this is a cool move from TL. I am quite confused by some people who said that why don't Dota get the same treatment. Why it has to?