• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:18
CEST 11:18
KST 18:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event10Serral wins EWC 202544Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple3SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple Real talk: we need to stop nerfing everything Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Serral wins EWC 2025 uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
Global Tourney for College Students in September RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! Simultaneous Streaming by CasterMuse StarCon Philadelphia Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 514 users

WCS EU: Ro32 Group F Preview/Group E Recap (S2) - Page 2

Forum Index > News
61 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
KingMel
Profile Joined July 2012
France120 Posts
July 10 2013 08:36 GMT
#21
I don't want to be mean, but I sometime wonder if these guys who write articles about upcoming matches really watch e-sport... LucifroN probably has the best european TvP right now, and with the weaknesses of NaNiwa in PvT, there's no way NaNiwa tops this group.

LucifroN
NaNiwa
Uzer
Bly
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
July 10 2013 08:57 GMT
#22
Well Naniwa really showed some excellent results lately but Lucifron is, as stated above, the best tvp'ler in europe. Beside Naniwas worst match up is still damn impressive (seeing dreamhack) i think Lucifron has the edge here.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 10 2013 09:00 GMT
#23
HasuObs, Mana advanced. Can't wait for Lucifron to advance. And I do not think that he's the underdog. Just go for HotS only and do not count Naniwas huge experience in the scene. Seen this way, they are kinda matching opponents.
Gothic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden122 Posts
July 10 2013 09:26 GMT
#24
Lucifron's excellent TvP combined with Naniwa's lag from Korea will probably mean it's going to be difficult for Nani to take 1st Place. Also, I would not write off the other two as they're clever boys and probably have some special tactics prepared to take down the two giants.

All in all, I really want Naniwa to make it through, but with the Korea lag I definately think it'll be a challenge for him!
In the age of the internet, attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy. - Benjamin Franklin
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
July 10 2013 09:36 GMT
#25
I wouldn't be too surprised to see Lucifron/Bly advance, they are both playing consistently well at the moment. I don't know taht you can say that about naniwa.
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
July 10 2013 09:51 GMT
#26
Don't wanna sound to offended by the predictions, because I will stop reading if this just becomes another, we write really wonky stuff so we get more replies thing.

Is Nani playing from KR? Do you really think Luci can lose a TvP?

Then again, probably the hardest group to predict, since Luci seems to have a weakness in TvZ, in a group with two Zergs, should Nani play from KR, that is a really leveled playing field, anyone could advance.
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
July 10 2013 10:06 GMT
#27
I think NaNiwa will atleast make it out even with KR lag. He's been practicing really hard for a couple of days know and will probably do something interesting.

ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 10:11:34
July 10 2013 10:10 GMT
#28
Luci/Bly

I don't agree with much in the preview, but I respect your opinion.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
July 10 2013 10:40 GMT
#29
Luci
Nani
bly
uzer

easy, with nani being the most unstable due to foreign zergs
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
July 10 2013 10:44 GMT
#30
naniwa for #1 and Bly for #2
-,-
mouz.Wake
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden136 Posts
July 10 2013 10:54 GMT
#31
K3 LucifroN...? Come on writers.
FORMER StarCraft II Team Manager for mousesports || @I_am_Wake
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
July 10 2013 11:06 GMT
#32
i though lucifron was a member of Mouz? what?
#1 Official Hack Fan|#2 Bomber behind Wintex.|Curious|Life|Flash|TY|Cure|Maru|sOs|Jin Air Green Wings fighting!|SBENU Fighting!|
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 10 2013 11:07 GMT
#33
On July 10 2013 20:06 partydude89 wrote:
i though lucifron was a member of Mouz? what?

i'ts a mistake.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
July 10 2013 11:13 GMT
#34
Naniwa and Luci!
Jaedong <3
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 10 2013 11:17 GMT
#35
One has only to look back at the simply dominating performance that Naniwa displayed in PvZ at Dreamhack Stockholm to be reassured that, even should he fall to Lucifron, it would be next to impossible for him to not make it out of the group at all.

Or one looks at Naniwa's losses to TLO, VortiX, Tefel and Suppy that all happened in the last two months.
Or his last match vs Bly that ended in a 1-3 stomp with Naniwa tilting completely. Or at the fact that he's currently in Korea and will play cross-server.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 10 2013 11:26 GMT
#36
K3.Lucifron?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 10 2013 11:48 GMT
#37
Writer doesn't follow esport, I see
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 10 2013 11:56 GMT
#38
Nani gonna take this :3
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
July 10 2013 12:14 GMT
#39
I placed my bet on luci/nani but forgot that nani is playing from korea :/ could very well be luci/ bly.... or fuzer, since I am almost everytime wrong with my prediction.
Heart: luci/nani, Head: luci/bly
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 10 2013 12:25 GMT
#40
On July 10 2013 21:14 JoeCool wrote:
I placed my bet on luci/nani but forgot that nani is playing from korea :/ could very well be luci/ bly.... or fuzer, since I am almost everytime wrong with my prediction.
Heart: luci/nani, Head: luci/bly


Fuzer is finnish terran, uzer is polish zerg
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SC2_NightMare 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Barracks 1758
BeSt 760
Bisu 581
Tasteless 340
ggaemo 328
actioN 284
EffOrt 128
PianO 101
Killer 101
ZerO 88
[ Show more ]
Pusan 73
HiyA 55
Sacsri 53
Backho 51
sorry 50
Soma 46
TY 43
soO 42
Hyuk 39
Bale 13
IntoTheRainbow 5
CasterMuse 0
Dota 2
XcaliburYe229
League of Legends
JimRising 423
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1745
shoxiejesuss610
Stewie2K604
allub283
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King147
Westballz47
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor204
Other Games
summit1g6970
FrodaN2556
ceh9594
Happy276
Fuzer 155
SortOf128
ZerO(Twitch)1
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta57
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV326
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling134
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
1h 42m
Wardi Open
5h 42m
RotterdaM Event
6h 42m
Replay Cast
14h 42m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 7h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 14h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Online Event
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.