• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:42
CEST 17:42
KST 00:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued 2026 GSL Tour plans announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2781 users

WCS EU: Ro32 Group B Preview/Group A Recap (S2) - Page 3

Forum Index > News
50 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
June 26 2013 14:30 GMT
#41
I don't think Stephano will advance. He seems more or less to have checked out.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 26 2013 14:37 GMT
#42
Tefel is master of throwing away games. It was more this than Mvp's greatness.

Sad to see elfi go down...
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
June 26 2013 14:40 GMT
#43
I'm trying to understand how a professional gamer is up 45 workers to 5, and loses. Terran has no way back in the game but drops. Expand everywhere, throw up static defense, tech up, and win. Not even going to bother watching the VOD because I can pretty much picture it already... probably undefended drops, not teching up to better units...

How does MVP find ways to win these games though? His tenacity is amazing.
I love crazymoving
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 14:54:40
June 26 2013 14:52 GMT
#44
On June 26 2013 23:40 Flonomenalz wrote:
I'm trying to understand how a professional gamer is up 45 workers to 5, and loses. Terran has no way back in the game but drops. Expand everywhere, throw up static defense, tech up, and win. Not even going to bother watching the VOD because I can pretty much picture it already... probably undefended drops, not teching up to better units...

How does MVP find ways to win these games though? His tenacity is amazing.


just the usual Mvp doesn't give up and builds the direct counter to your current composition only. If you think you can slam your units into him he will massacre you. And everyone can lose to it if they face someone like Mvp known for coming back in those situations and then don't want to mess up.
You could say Mvp stomps and the ground screams "this is Terran" and puts you into overawe status.


Anyway go go MC maybe use Zerg against Stephano!
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
June 26 2013 16:04 GMT
#45
On June 26 2013 23:40 Flonomenalz wrote:
I'm trying to understand how a professional gamer is up 45 workers to 5, and loses. Terran has no way back in the game but drops. Expand everywhere, throw up static defense, tech up, and win. Not even going to bother watching the VOD because I can pretty much picture it already... probably undefended drops, not teching up to better units...

How does MVP find ways to win these games though? His tenacity is amazing.

1) Tefel is known for throwing games if ahead (EU King of throw).
2) If you have watched the VOD then you will notice that he did exactly nothing (no tech, no static denfense, no expansion etc). Mvp won already at this "5 vs 45 workers" time. 70 supply of marauder + tanks win ezpz vs 155 supply of roaches at good position. Exaclty this happenend. And after this fight, Tefel only built roaches (again).
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Elucidate
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
205 Posts
June 26 2013 16:05 GMT
#46
Heart says Stephano/MC, head has no idea but seems like Stephano...the problem is MC can be unpredictable.
Welcome to Aslan's Country. Sanctuary Cat on DotA 2.
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
June 26 2013 20:17 GMT
#47
http://i.imgur.com/nmBASQJ.png
Blatant plagiarism ? :o
Elucidate
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
205 Posts
June 26 2013 20:46 GMT
#48
I'm glad that heart was right :D
Welcome to Aslan's Country. Sanctuary Cat on DotA 2.
Elucidate
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
205 Posts
June 26 2013 20:48 GMT
#49
On June 27 2013 05:17 Nyarly wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/nmBASQJ.png
Blatant plagiarism ? :o


Odd....he does link back to TeamLiquid.net though it looks like. Maybe it's used with permission?
Welcome to Aslan's Country. Sanctuary Cat on DotA 2.
YuiHirasawa
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan220 Posts
June 26 2013 21:12 GMT
#50
On June 26 2013 23:30 The_Darkness wrote:
I don't think Stephano will advance. He seems more or less to have checked out.


People say that since WCS season 1 ro32. Guess who was in the finals.
It's like everyone wants to see him fail just to be able to say "I told you so, he's not the best anymore."
Yes he is not as good as he was during his 2011 run but he is still a level (at least) above other foreigners, even when playing the game is a chore to him.

The only way for Naniwa, Thorzain, Demuslim and more recently Snute, Lucifron or TLO to become really relevant will be when he retires.
Fun things are fun
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
June 27 2013 13:44 GMT
#51
On June 26 2013 13:41 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 11:39 althaz wrote:
On June 26 2013 11:03 Prplppleatr wrote:
45....to 5

I didn't see this game, but how the fuck is MVP so awesome? Anybody care to link me to the VOD? I thought his incredible comeback against Innovation was a fluke, but apparently not...


he just never quits .. and little by little he takes advantage .. we can never count him out .. hes like boxer in broodwar .. who comes back time and time again


MVP is the King of Wings, and mules are pretty good.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
15:00
King of the Hill #244
Liquipedia
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Group B
WardiTV1294
TKL 354
Rex119
3DClanTV 71
Liquipedia
Escore
10:00
Week 3
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 354
RotterdaM 191
Rex 119
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1142
Mini 397
EffOrt 390
Soma 299
actioN 256
Snow 167
Rush 117
Hyuk 113
Soulkey 113
ToSsGirL 89
[ Show more ]
Hyun 77
Dewaltoss 77
Sexy 76
Aegong 76
scan(afreeca) 64
JYJ 52
Backho 27
Terrorterran 27
Rock 26
Hm[arnc] 18
JulyZerg 13
Bale 9
Britney 0
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
Gorgc4032
qojqva2326
League of Legends
Reynor84
Counter-Strike
fl0m5726
olofmeister2464
kRYSTAL_25
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King85
Other Games
singsing2069
B2W.Neo1873
FrodaN1044
hiko740
DeMusliM344
crisheroes147
ArmadaUGS81
QueenE51
Trikslyr48
KnowMe34
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV327
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 52
• EnkiAlexander 51
• poizon28 19
• LUISG 13
• iHatsuTV 6
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV360
League of Legends
• Nemesis2837
• Jankos1820
• TFBlade1627
Other Games
• Shiphtur158
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
18m
MaNa vs goblin
Scarlett vs Spirit
Serral vs herO
RotterdaM191
Korean StarCraft League
11h 18m
CranKy Ducklings
18h 18m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
19h 18m
IPSL
1d
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
1d 3h
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
1d 6h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 18h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 19h
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
1d 23h
BSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-16
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W3
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.