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Innovation 4 - 0 sOs - WCS Season One Finals - Page 3

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ManicMarine
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia409 Posts
June 09 2013 23:13 GMT
#41
The MVP vs Innovation set was the true finals, sOs was just a formality.

Good writeup anyway.
Manic by name, Manic by nature.
pumpfist
Profile Joined April 2013
Sweden4 Posts
June 09 2013 23:16 GMT
#42
Was gona ask about the spoiler thingy aswell. Then saw the first reply and a few other responses aswell regarding the matter. I have never ever experiencd this before. getting the grand final results beeing spoild for me the same day it was played here on tl. Was just gona do a quick glimpse at what streams were on, while watching thru the entire finals since i have been away. Since i alwaysd felt it was safe to go at tl even if not up to date on the results of a major tourney. Its been my experience you guys have always waited to post results like that. But today i was watching ro16, was gona watch final set of ro16. Then boom i see the grand final results...

Now i see what u guys hinted at, sighing at people complaining since theres actualy an option to "hide spoilers"
I havent seen that before for some reason. Maybe its new?!

But then may i ask why would you choose to post results like that, that close to the live event ending.
And not set that hide spoiler check box as default. Alsow for some1 to find and click that check box to prevent beeing spoild. They would had to get either realy lucky not having that one picture baner popup during the time frame they needed inbetween locating that check mark (which is just below that actual large spoiler banner)
Or one would -most likly- like me just see that banner and its result spoiler as soon as one enters the site.
Without any chance to actualy click the check box before getting spoild.

I can only see one reason for not having spoilers hidden as default. And that would be something like to show that teamliquid is uptodate?! I cant see that beeing a worthy reason. Since most people know tl is the best site on the net anyways.


I know this prob got realy offtopic and alsow probably have a more proper place. But im not sure where.
Feel free to move or remove it. i just wanted to vent and see if anyone could share some light on this to me.
Can't read my UNO face. Mum mum mum mah
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
June 09 2013 23:23 GMT
#43
On June 10 2013 08:13 GolemMadness wrote:
sOs wasn't ahead until the nexus snipe. He was down by about 20 supply and lost very quickly afterwards.

Correct, which is an even larger indictment on the state of the game considering sOs had just deflected a number of hellbat drops about as well as can be expected.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 23:48:03
June 09 2013 23:29 GMT
#44
On June 10 2013 06:11 WeRRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 06:06 Derez wrote:
Innovation pretty damn good but its no GSL title.

40 k and more wcs points this title is better than gsl and it was as hard to achieve, not to mention that he was so close to getting both titles, but well haters gonna hate.

That's sort of silly to say. The two opponents that Innovation would have faced in GSL were the exact same. It's just that sOs beat Soulkey this time around, which must (CLEARLY) mean that Soulkey is worse than sOs despite winning a GSL, right? A tournament win is a tournament win. People value it too much. I think it has to do with the money or something like that.

Also, Innovation didn't play superb. sOs just played really stupidly. His last game was his best game. I swear, sOs should have won at least 2 of those games if not for his poor decision making. Game 2? That shit was won, but instead he decided to rambo stalkers into Innovation's main and NOT take an expansion until forever despite having 800 minerals lying around. He even had 34 workers and still decided to just keep attacking. (Can someone please explain the reasoning behind that?)

Arghhhh.... not the whole spoiler discussion again. While I don't care either way personally (I usually just look at liquipedia the following day to check out the results) I do think being a little more subtle with it might be alright. Some people (evidently) really care about it. How many people really care to see that Innovation won 4-0 on the main page after having watched the series themselves?

Cool fact:
The upcoming WCS KR (Season 2) will contain 14 zergs, 10 protoss, 8 terrans. It looks like there has been 14 zergs in the Ro32 for the past 3 Code S.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 23:43:26
June 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#45
happy that he won the whole thing, but kinda disappointed it ended so quickly, our barcraft ended to early

and also trophy is terrible
AKMU / IU
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
June 09 2013 23:40 GMT
#46
i've never ever been able to eat tempest templar EVER T_T
rip prime
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 23:40:44
June 09 2013 23:40 GMT
#47
On June 10 2013 06:20 Bumpkin wrote:
It was Terran vs Protoss. We all KNEW it was going to happen.

This is a two race game and in the surprising event that a Protoss actually manages to squeeze into the final, we witness massacre.

Ban me by all means, but if it's taboo to call the elephant in the room by his name, then nothing will ever improve, and all we have is a climate of fear where everyone is afraid to acknowledge that the Emperor has no clothes.

Well here I am saying it. The Emperor has no clothes. It's a two race game at the moment that works in Terran's favour.

User was banned for this post.

There were, what, 8 zergs in the ro16? They're doing fine. Also, most people expected Soulkey, a zerg, in the finals.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
June 10 2013 00:16 GMT
#48
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Gendo
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom216 Posts
June 10 2013 00:18 GMT
#49
Congratz to him, don't know what it is but he has always a weird look, is it just me?
ZerGGling
Profile Joined November 2012
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 00:22:15
June 10 2013 00:21 GMT
#50
I really would loved to watch a soulkey vs Innovation finals , i'm so frustrated about the cannon rush . I don't know why does that spot (where u can block the probe with two pylons) in Bel'shir Vestige. I think soulkey vs Inno would have been a much more entertaining and hyped finals.
Who the hell do you think I am?!; Go beyond the impossible and kick reason to the curb! (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann)
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
June 10 2013 00:22 GMT
#51
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mostwanted
Profile Joined March 2011
83 Posts
June 10 2013 00:43 GMT
#52
SOS: I will train harder so the next time we meet. It won't be like today.

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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
June 10 2013 00:50 GMT
#53
On June 10 2013 06:11 WeRRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 06:06 Derez wrote:
Innovation pretty damn good but its no GSL title.

40 k and more wcs points this title is better than gsl and it was as hard to achieve, not to mention that he was so close to getting both titles, but well haters gonna hate.

fully agreed
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
June 10 2013 00:56 GMT
#54
I gave up watching after Innovation 3-0, since I knew sOs wouldnt pull a comeback. Alas, the final game seemed to be the only one worth watching
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
June 10 2013 02:14 GMT
#55
are the final vods only available to subscribers ?
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
June 10 2013 02:15 GMT
#56
On June 10 2013 07:20 Henk wrote:
Great read.

Show nested quote +
the crazy strategy built around the overlooked long rage Protoss air unit was starting to look more and more genius.


Should obviously be 'range'.

This is working as intended.

Congrats to Innovation, but I kinda feel sorry for sOs, he outplayed Innovation in parts of each game, but just couldn't get himself into a lead. I thought the first game was looking very one-sided in sOs' favour, with how bad he stomped Innovation's drops without actually losing anything, but then in the final engagement he just got crushed. Obviously his build decisions weren't quite right, but I'd love to look at the replays and discover just how exactly sOs managed to lose a few of those games.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Billinator
Profile Joined July 2012
United States86 Posts
June 10 2013 02:38 GMT
#57
On June 10 2013 08:09 VArsovskiSC wrote:

IDK about you guys, but I'm really pissed by the fact that NO stargate unit is good vs Marines.. Sucks bad..

.


You realize that oracles are very good against marines? Being good against a unit does not mean that you can kill it with vastly inferior supply. one oracle isn't going to kill 20 marines (20 supply vs 3 supply). sorry. That doesn't mean oracles aren't good against marines though.
MKP, Select, DeMusliM
EkiMGnaW
Profile Joined March 2011
United States45 Posts
June 10 2013 03:04 GMT
#58
Definitely a frustrating series to watch.

Game 1 really had me scratching my head. sOs defending brilliantly against the hellbat drops only to be defeated by a doom drop. Ugh.

Game 4 was definitely the best game but I think Carriers would've been a better choice or at least mix a few Carriers in with the Tempests. That said, still very exciting to watch.

Many congrats to Innovation for a well-deserved win and sOs has just cemented himself as one of my favorite players to watch for his innovations in Protoss play.
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
June 10 2013 03:27 GMT
#59
Any Protoss try to mix in phoenix pairs to cover your two sides? Seems there needs to be a way to effectively shutdown the medivac before it gets two suicide hellbats on your probes.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
June 10 2013 03:38 GMT
#60
ez
the throws never bothered me anyway
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