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[WCS EU] Mvp Wins S1 Championship & Recap - Page 9

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Slashiepie
Profile Joined May 2013
107 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 08:12:23
May 29 2013 08:05 GMT
#161
I really think if Lucifron hadn't magically thrown away his 2-0 lead to ForGG with those unlucky mistakes, he could have crushed MVP and Stephano. And it pains me that he isn't going to Korea, imo he had a way better chance of dealing with Koreans than the current rooster that went through.

The natural evolution is that either, Koreans will overrun all international Tournaments, or/and sooner or later other players will reach the skill level and really compete with the best Koreans, if the best want to come here and own already, i guess all we can do is see it as a catalizator, it sets the skill level bar higher.

And yeah i would have loved to see a Lucifron vs Stephano final, i would have loved to see TLO not getting owned like that, and those one sided games are not so fun to watch, but lets be real; How anal can you get about denying someone entry to a tournament and under what "rules", couldn't those rules or criteria be met or manipulated anyways?
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 29 2013 10:37 GMT
#162
On May 29 2013 07:35 lue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 01:02 Targe wrote:
I love how so many people are cheering for the wrong guy, it's Mvp not MVP.


Well, no..

Mvp is the player, MVP is the team, as everyone except you have enough wits to understand that this is a solo-players tournament and not a team tournament, we're not being that strict with upper/lower case.

Besides, hes used all-caps in tournaments in his ingame nick, of that I am 100% certain.


Are you serious? You're calling me an idiot? Do you really think I've spent this long on TL without knowing that MVP is a team?
His name is Mvp, not MVP, why would you bother to capitalise his name? It's more effort.
Everyone capitalising it thinks they are being correct or clever when actually they are wrong.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
May 29 2013 13:40 GMT
#163
What a finals! MVP looking so dominant, although so was Stephano too until they met...

My favorite moment will definitely go to TLO advancing to take the 5th slot, I can't think of another EU player who has worked harder or who could better represent the Western scene (apart from Stephano).
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 30 2013 08:09 GMT
#164
On May 29 2013 17:05 Slashiepie wrote:
I really think if Lucifron hadn't magically thrown away his 2-0 lead to ForGG with those unlucky mistakes, he could have crushed MVP and Stephano. And it pains me that he isn't going to Korea, imo he had a way better chance of dealing with Koreans than the current rooster that went through.

The natural evolution is that either, Koreans will overrun all international Tournaments, or/and sooner or later other players will reach the skill level and really compete with the best Koreans, if the best want to come here and own already, i guess all we can do is see it as a catalizator, it sets the skill level bar higher.

And yeah i would have loved to see a Lucifron vs Stephano final, i would have loved to see TLO not getting owned like that, and those one sided games are not so fun to watch, but lets be real; How anal can you get about denying someone entry to a tournament and under what "rules", couldn't those rules or criteria be met or manipulated anyways?


Not sure if Lucifron will be able to beat Mvp let alone crushing him judging from his TvT against ForGG. He looked pretty weak. Mvp was really confident in his TvT..
KarlSiegt
Profile Joined December 2011
Italy36 Posts
May 30 2013 08:52 GMT
#165
A lot of Protoss..
Italia
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
May 30 2013 13:32 GMT
#166
On May 30 2013 17:09 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 17:05 Slashiepie wrote:
I really think if Lucifron hadn't magically thrown away his 2-0 lead to ForGG with those unlucky mistakes, he could have crushed MVP and Stephano. And it pains me that he isn't going to Korea, imo he had a way better chance of dealing with Koreans than the current rooster that went through.

The natural evolution is that either, Koreans will overrun all international Tournaments, or/and sooner or later other players will reach the skill level and really compete with the best Koreans, if the best want to come here and own already, i guess all we can do is see it as a catalizator, it sets the skill level bar higher.

And yeah i would have loved to see a Lucifron vs Stephano final, i would have loved to see TLO not getting owned like that, and those one sided games are not so fun to watch, but lets be real; How anal can you get about denying someone entry to a tournament and under what "rules", couldn't those rules or criteria be met or manipulated anyways?


Not sure if Lucifron will be able to beat Mvp let alone crushing him judging from his TvT against ForGG. He looked pretty weak. Mvp was really confident in his TvT..


Yes you have to remember that the RO16 match happened pre-training and pre-longseries.
Anyway no need to speculate, it happened the way it did, we could argue a ton of things otherwise.
lue
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden27 Posts
May 30 2013 23:43 GMT
#167
On May 29 2013 19:37 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 07:35 lue wrote:
On May 29 2013 01:02 Targe wrote:
I love how so many people are cheering for the wrong guy, it's Mvp not MVP.


Well, no..

Mvp is the player, MVP is the team, as everyone except you have enough wits to understand that this is a solo-players tournament and not a team tournament, we're not being that strict with upper/lower case.

Besides, hes used all-caps in tournaments in his ingame nick, of that I am 100% certain.


Are you serious? You're calling me an idiot? Do you really think I've spent this long on TL without knowing that MVP is a team?
His name is Mvp, not MVP, why would you bother to capitalise his name? It's more effort.
Everyone capitalising it thinks they are being correct or clever when actually they are wrong.


I am indeed serious but I did not call you stupid and as you said yourself "Do you really think I've spent this long on TL without knowing that MVP is a team" this should be a clear indicator that within the CONTEXT of this particular topic, we could with a 110% certainty asume that wether nor people capitalized one, none or ALL of the letters in MVP, would be talking about the player and not the team.

That would be the case for any person capable of following basic reasoning atleast.

Oh and as a final note; You could've spent 5 minutes on TL and have the same knowledge as someone whos spent 5000 minutes on it.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 13:16:22
May 31 2013 07:16 GMT
#168
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 31 2013 08:43 lue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 19:37 Targe wrote:
On May 29 2013 07:35 lue wrote:
On May 29 2013 01:02 Targe wrote:
I love how so many people are cheering for the wrong guy, it's Mvp not MVP.


Well, no..

Mvp is the player, MVP is the team, as everyone except you have enough wits to understand that this is a solo-players tournament and not a team tournament, we're not being that strict with upper/lower case.

Besides, hes used all-caps in tournaments in his ingame nick, of that I am 100% certain.


Are you serious? You're calling me an idiot? Do you really think I've spent this long on TL without knowing that MVP is a team?
His name is Mvp, not MVP, why would you bother to capitalise his name? It's more effort.
Everyone capitalising it thinks they are being correct or clever when actually they are wrong.


I am indeed serious but I did not call you stupid and as you said yourself "Do you really think I've spent this long on TL without knowing that MVP is a team" this should be a clear indicator that within the CONTEXT of this particular topic, we could with a 110% certainty asume that wether nor people capitalized one, none or ALL of the letters in MVP, would be talking about the player and not the team.

That would be the case for any person capable of following basic reasoning atleast.

Oh and as a final note; You could've spent 5 minutes on TL and have the same knowledge as someone whos spent 5000 minutes on it.


Again with the passive aggressive insulting, leave that out of it.
I said nothing about the knowledge of someone with less posts than me when I mentioned how long I had been here, I am simply stating that after this much time it would be obvious that I know the difference between MVP the team and Mvp the player.

It doesn't matter if in this context MVP, MvP or whatever is recognizable as Mvp because it is still wrong, it will always be wrong, his name is Mvp yet people always misspell it.

I don't want to derail this thread any more, you just seem to be going for a personal attack against me when all I'm doing is pointing out people who say MVP are wrong.


Mvp fighting!

Edit: PM'ed you, I said I wanted to keep this out of the thread.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
lue
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden27 Posts
May 31 2013 12:49 GMT
#169
Again with the passive aggressive insulting, leave that out of it.
I said nothing about the knowledge of someone with less posts than me when I mentioned how long I had been here, I am simply stating that after this much time it would be obvious that I know the difference between MVP the team and Mvp the player.

It doesn't matter if in this context MVP, MvP or whatever is recognizable as Mvp because it is still wrong, it will always be wrong, his name is Mvp yet people always misspell it.

I don't want to derail this thread any more, you just seem to be going for a personal attack against me when all I'm doing is pointing out people who say MVP are wrong.


Mvp fighting!


And I'm just saying that your time spent here does not translate into knowledge, for all I know you could've spent all your time on these forums complaining about how zealots with 2/2 upgrades and charge are ruining the game, that you would know wether or not a team uses full upper-case in their name and a player who shares that name does not, would still be left completely blank, as you were clearly so huttburt over people calling him MVP/MVp/mVP/mVp/mvp instead of Mvp that you had to call people on it, now as I said, considering this entire topic is regarding a player winning a solo tournament over a team tournament, it is blatantly obvious that it is the player everyone is talking about, so wether or not mvp, Mvp or MVP is used, they're all refering to the exact same person and as such are not wrong in the slightest.
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