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April 29th, 2013 18:20 GMT

2013 WCS Europe

WCS America Season 1 - Premier League



Ro32: Week 1 Preview
Groups A, E, F and H


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Premier League Ro32:
Week 1 Preview

by Pokebunny and Waxangel

With WCS Korea and WCS Europe already well underway, the final and most controversial WCS region finally kicks off this week with four Ro32 groups. In some ways, WCS 'America' really did live up to its name. A disproportionate amount of seeds were given to players from the United States, and a generous number of charity seeds were also given to 2012 WCS champions from the Americas. At the same time, a massive Korean invasion through the qualifiers means it's not very American at all, with a full 13 of 32 players hailing from the esports giant of the east. For a tournament that's run out of New York City, perhaps it's not that surprising that it ended up being WCS's melting pot.


April 29: Group F - us (T)ROOT.theognis, no (Z)Liquid`Snute, kr (T)coL.TheStC, us (Z)ROOT.ViBE


To kick off the strange international-American tournament hybrid that is WCS America, we have a pair of match-ups that truly defines the cosmopolitan makeup of MLG's new experiment. We have a talented but unproven American in (T)ROOT.theognis, an unexpected European guest in (Z)Liquid`Snute, a greenback bounty hunter in (T)coL.TheStC, and the reigning champion of the home country, (Z)ROOT.ViBE.

It would be hard for even the most diehard American fans to deny that the international players in this group have the advantage. Still, the matches may not be as simple as they first appear. While Snute has a major international tournament victory under his belt compared to theognis' threadbare resume, there are some important factors in play that could help the underdog. First of all, Heart of the Swarm is still fairly fresh, and many players like theognis have yet to compete in major tournaments and show their skill level in the game-changing expansion. With Snute falling out of Dreamhack without fanfare and theognis yet to have his shot on stage, all bets are off. The long awaited pendulum swing back towards Terran seems to give theognis the perfect chance to break out. While he has always been talented, he has never had a big result to really push him into the spotlight, and a win in this group would be the perfect way to start his WCS season.

The situation for ViBE and TheStC seems to lean in the opposite direction, however. ViBE hasn't posted up any results since last year's WCS, and Heart of the Swarm has brought about the rebirth of many members of the Korean Terran master race. While his recent stats – victories over Illusion and State and losses to Sen and Bly in ZvZ – don't really say a ton about ViBE's current state, it would certainly be a surprise if he could cause an upset against a player of TheStC's caliber. But when you get a new game with two talented players, almost anything can happen on any given day.

As we get into the rest of the group, all bets are off. It would be a big surprise to see TheStC fail to advance, as the average Korean Terran should be able to take out foreigners below the very top end. Snute does seems to be the favorite here on name value alone, but I wouldn't be surprised to see an American sneak by to represent his country in the Ro16.

Prediction:

theognis > Snute
TheStC > ViBE
TheStC > theognis
Snute > ViBE
Snute > theognis

Snute and TheStC advance.



April 30: Group E - us (P)ROOT.Minigun, kr (Z)LG-IM_NesTea, kr (T)Quantic.Apocalypse, [image loading] (T)LG-IM_Fenix


It's a shame to see (Z)LG-IM_NesTea, a player with three GSL championships and an entire award named after him leave the GSL, but this was something that everyone had to see coming. Nestea's been on the down side of his career for over a year now, and not even Artosis' most desperate screams have been able to stop the slide. That's not to say he's totally washed up or anything – he did take third place at Iron Squid II after all – but the rigors of Code S were just going to be too much for him in his diminished form. The competition in WCS America is definitely a level or two easier, and Nestea can make a realistic campaign for the championship.

Nestea has received a fairly decent group to start, facing one of the lesser known Koreans in (T)Quantic.Apocalypse and two middle-of-the-pack foreigners in (P)ROOT.Minigun and (T)LG-IM_Fenix. Normally a player would lament having a potential team-kill scenario, but it's hard to think Nestea has much sentiment for a teammate living several thousand miles away in Peru (on the other hand, you can't help but think LG-IM head coach Hirai wouldn't be all that pleased if Fenix pulled off the upset against Nestea).

So, with Nestea as the favorite to go through, who's the most likely to progress alongside him? Minigun may have won the most talked about American vs. American series in 2013 when he beat IdrA at the 2013 Winter Showdowns, but he hasn't done a thing of note since. He's our token American of the group: someone to root for, but not someone we expect to beat international level competition.

Fenix is a wild card, barely playing in any matches and having his practice time severely hampered by wrist pain (a common Terran affliction). We have no idea what to expect from him, and making a prediction about his performance would be close to pure guesswork.

Thus, we have to look toward the other Korean in the group, Apocalypse, as the leading candidate to progress alongside Nestea. Yes, he's probably the weakest Korean in the entire tournament. Yes, we know he had an extremely easy and lucky bracket to even qualify for the Premier League at all (wins against PiG, Hwangsin, and a walkover against Chinese champion Comm who was disqualified). But at the end of the day he's still a Korean Terran, which means he's probably better than the other two guys in the group.

Prediction:

Nestea> Minigun
Apocalypse > Fenix
Nestea > Apocalypse
Minigun > Fenix
Apocalypse > Minigun

Nestea and Apocalypse advance.



May 1: Group H - au (Z)Nv.mOOnGLaDe, us (T)mouz.Illusion, mx (T)Maker, kr (P)AX.Alicia


The star of this very diverse group is Australia's (Z)Nv.mOOnGLaDe, the only SEA player competing in any of the WCS Premier divisions. While isolation often brings stagnation, Moonglade has been an exception for almost the entirety of StarCraft II's run as an esport, showing that he can hang with the best foreigners whenever he gets a rare opportunity to go to a major tournament. A tough draw into a group with two Koreans could have seen the SEA region's hopes crushed faster than those of the Chinese, but luckily Moonglade has drawn a very palatable group.

His first opponent is (T)mouz.Illusion, a player much hyped as America's next hope since 2012. Unfortunately, he has turned out to be very American indeed, with a big name but none of the results to back it up. Strangely enough, the advent of HotS doesn't seem to have helped out Illusion that much at all, considering that he has the speed to abuse all of Terran's new toys. After losing 2 - 3 to ViBE in the MLG qualifiers, Illusion has only continued to lose, going down to Miya, viPro, and Lure in the Acer TeamStory Cup. Still, TvZ at the Western level does seem to favor Terran a little, and Illusion might be able to rely on a barrage of widow mine shots and relentless drops to power him through.

The other match-up is probably the most lopsided match in all of WCS, with maybe HuK vs. Capoch (Group G) coming in as a close second. In one corner we have Alicia, a runner up at MLG and NASL, coming into WCS after defeating Zenio, JYP, and Revival in his qualifier bracket. In the other corner we have Maker, who as far as we can tell, got in solely because MLG decided Mexico needed two seeds for whatever reason, and they decided to pick the 2nd place finisher from last year's WCS Mexico. While this isn't on the "Minigun vs. Life at MLG Winter" level of hopelessness, it's still one of those KR vs. NA matches that threatens to be painfully one-sided to watch.

Overall, Alicia is the favorite to clean up the group, leaving the other three to fight it out for second. While there's not much recent data for Illusion, Moonglade, or Maker, we'll go with Moonglade here since he has the best track record at getting things done in important matches.

Prediction:

Illusion > Moonglade
Alicia > Maker
Alicia > Illusion
Moonglade > Maker
Moonglade > Illusion

Alicia and Moonglade advance.



May 2: Group A - cl (Z)C.KiLLeR, kr (T)EG.aLive.RC, mx (T)8th_MajOr, kr (P)Liquid`HerO


Move aside China, Latin America is now the main target of MLG's ire. (Z)C.KiLLeR and (T)8th_MajOr are undoubtedly the two best Latin American players in the entire tournament, but they face the threat of simultaneous early elimination as they have been put into a two-Korean group. It's not any two-Korean group either, with (P)Liquid`HerO and (T)EG.aLive.RC bringing truly impressive tournament resumes to the group with two dreamhacks, an NASL, and an IPL won between them.

(P)Liquid`HerO looks like the strongest player coming into this group, being the most accomplished player in terms of both past achievements and recent tournament results. He comes in off a semi-final run at DreamHack: Stockholm, where he was eliminated 1 - 2 by eventual champion Leenock. While he's disadvantaged by not being able to play PvP – his best match-up in recent weeks – it's hard to see the Liquid Protoss not making it out of this group.

On the other hand, (Z)C.KiLLeR looks like the lock to be eliminated in this group of death. As one of the most overlooked and underrated players in the tournament, he would have been our elitist hipster pick to do well had he been in any other group. Instead, he's in what's arguably the toughest group of all, going up against three players who have trained lengthily in Korea. That's right, even the other non-Korean in this group, Major, has actually spent the last five months in Korea training alongside KeSPA Team Eight, leaving Killer to wonder whether he should have just played WCS Europe instead.

We expect (T)8th_MajOr and (T)EG.aLive.RC to battle over the remaining Ro16 spot. We've barely seen either of them play since HotS was released, but you could make an argument that aLive is better because he at least earns Proleague starts for his team. However, that might be more related to the fact that EG-TL's Terran line is threadbare (especially with TaeJa making only infrequent appearances), and that they have no other option but aLive. Major might not have earned his first start yet, but he says he's an active contributor in practice. Even before Major moved to Team Eight he was one of the best non-Korean players out there, and with KeSPA training he should be able to give aLive is a good fight.

Prediction:

aLive > Killer
HerO > Major
HerO > aLive
Major > Killer
Major > aLive

HerO and Major advance.



Writers: Pokebunny and Waxangel
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Editor: Waxangel.
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minilance
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Canada500 Posts
April 29 2013 18:28 GMT
#2
I really hope Nestea makes it out! If not, it would be a sad day for Esport
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Prplppleatr
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United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 18:34:47
April 29 2013 18:30 GMT
#3
Wax workin hard on his b-day, earnin the millions and billions of esport dollars he makes daily

At least you did pick one NA player to actually make it through, but can't say I agree...alive and hero will win that group..

I think illusion and vibe are our best chance of getting an NA player in ro16 (for these groups)
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HandA711
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April 29 2013 18:33 GMT
#4
Can't remember the last time I saw Nestea play. Hope he's still somewhat motivated enough to do some damage.
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April 29 2013 18:35 GMT
#5
WCS AM is going to be one heck of a tournament. I am very eager to see what the end result is going to be Oo;;
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 29 2013 18:38 GMT
#6
On April 30 2013 03:35 Seeker wrote:
WCS AM is going to be one heck of a tournament. I am very eager to see what the end result is going to be Oo;;

Koreans
Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
April 29 2013 18:38 GMT
#7
Really hope Illusion does well. Is he even gonna be competing in Shoutcraft America?
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 29 2013 18:39 GMT
#8
On April 30 2013 03:35 Seeker wrote:
WCS AM is going to be one heck of a tournament. I am very eager to see what the end result is going to be Oo;;

Agreed. I hope it's not all but predictable and thus boring until later stages...but who knows, hell could freeze over..just once
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KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
April 29 2013 18:39 GMT
#9
I really want my mexican buddies can come will good results... I don't know Maker but Ithink MajOr can do it...
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 18:46:40
April 29 2013 18:42 GMT
#10
i think the pokebunny and/or waxangel really over estimates moonglade. hes been inconsistent at the best of times, so expecting him to win 2 tvz's in a row seems to be asking a lot.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
April 29 2013 18:45 GMT
#11
I want MajOr to advance so badly. Show us what Kespa terrans are capable of!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States247 Posts
April 29 2013 18:45 GMT
#12
I'm pretty sure if it came down to it aLive would beat Major
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Australia2229 Posts
April 29 2013 18:46 GMT
#13
On April 30 2013 03:42 turdburgler wrote:
i think the writer really over estimates moonglade. hes been inconsistent at the best of times, so expecting him to win 2 tvz's in a row seems to be asking a lot.

Yeah except one of them is against a total nobody. In fairness, all the writer is asking is for him to win 1 out of 2 tvz's against the same person, in the right order.
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Canada223 Posts
April 29 2013 18:46 GMT
#14
I'd like to see MajOr win something big, but either way GL to all. I'm sure there will be some upsets and some amazing games as well.
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Micronesia1338 Posts
April 29 2013 18:47 GMT
#15
MajOr had better advance
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Sweden1381 Posts
April 29 2013 18:54 GMT
#16
Group A is craaazy
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Canada7089 Posts
April 29 2013 19:00 GMT
#17
StC is on coL, no?
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United States30730 Posts
April 29 2013 19:03 GMT
#18
Aside from a brief 0-3 to Creator that he played while still in WoL code A during beta, this is the first real HotS debut for NesTea. Too bad these aren't opponents I'd expect to test him very well.

and Major over Alive? wut
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Germany132 Posts
April 29 2013 19:05 GMT
#19
2am? ...Maybe will watch the VODs of STCs Games, when I'm done with catching up on 3 weeks of SPL.
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Canada47 Posts
April 29 2013 19:07 GMT
#20
Interesting to note the only actual North American predicted to qualify is a Mexican currently playing on a KeSPA team
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Norway2142 Posts
April 29 2013 19:08 GMT
#21
Group A is insane thats for sure
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Brazil142 Posts
April 29 2013 19:14 GMT
#22
Cool, can't wait to see Demuslim ! Oh wait...
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Germany5113 Posts
April 29 2013 19:15 GMT
#23
HerO and Snute hwaiting!
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Austria11528 Posts
April 29 2013 19:27 GMT
#24
while i think that Major is probably the second strongest NA player in this tournament, him beating Alive seems rather unlikely.
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Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
April 29 2013 19:29 GMT
#25
It's official. Between the ultimate group of death in Korea, my favorite group in Europe, and 3rd favorite (Canada fighting!) group in America, I'm gonna spend may 2nd doing NOTHING but watching WCS and sleeping gonna be a great day.
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Last Edited: 2013-04-29 19:42:45
April 29 2013 19:42 GMT
#26
wow picking a player from the Americas to advance. ballsy choice ^^
On April 30 2013 04:29 TheDougler wrote:
It's official. Between the ultimate group of death in Korea, my favorite group in Europe, and 3rd favorite (Canada fighting!) group in America, I'm gonna spend may 2nd doing NOTHING but watching WCS and sleeping gonna be a great day.

gg final exams imba as fuck
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Greece2376 Posts
April 29 2013 19:42 GMT
#27
Ah dammit,it's too late for europe,i'll miss most of the games.

Will they release vods and are they going to be free?
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Profile Joined November 2011
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April 29 2013 19:45 GMT
#28
Can't wait to see Nestea! Imagine if he can regain his form in hots, would be so epic!
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Germany6146 Posts
April 29 2013 19:47 GMT
#29
seems they not want european watchers, only reason for such time using ...
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9334 Posts
April 29 2013 19:56 GMT
#30
Snute will defintly advance out of this group.
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United States545 Posts
April 29 2013 19:57 GMT
#31
Lets hope NesTea can bounce back.
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United States30730 Posts
April 29 2013 19:59 GMT
#32
On April 30 2013 04:47 CoR wrote:
seems they not want european watchers, only reason for such time using ...


Why is it always the EU users that complain about this?

I mean Dreamhack, IEM, and Iron Squid are hell to watch for NA viewers. You don't see much whining from us.
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April 29 2013 20:01 GMT
#33
On April 30 2013 03:38 kollin wrote:
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On April 30 2013 03:35 Seeker wrote:
WCS AM is going to be one heck of a tournament. I am very eager to see what the end result is going to be Oo;;

Koreans


and Sen!
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 29 2013 20:04 GMT
#34
On April 30 2013 04:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 04:47 CoR wrote:
seems they not want european watchers, only reason for such time using ...


Why is it always the EU users that complain about this?

I mean Dreamhack, IEM, and Iron Squid are hell to watch for NA viewers. You don't see much whining from us.

To be fair, they're a lot easier to watch than NA events are for EU guys. While the EU events do usually start pretty early in the morning for you guys, you tend to get the juicy finals at like 1pm - 6pm depending where you live and depending on scheduling. For us, all finals usually go on really early into the morning which does make it a lot harder to watch the big important matches.
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United States97276 Posts
April 29 2013 20:11 GMT
#35
On April 30 2013 05:01 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:38 kollin wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:35 Seeker wrote:
WCS AM is going to be one heck of a tournament. I am very eager to see what the end result is going to be Oo;;

Koreans


and Sen!

oh yeah that one foreigner everyone forgets about that's really good still
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 29 2013 20:12 GMT
#36
On April 30 2013 05:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 05:01 stuchiu wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:38 kollin wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:35 Seeker wrote:
WCS AM is going to be one heck of a tournament. I am very eager to see what the end result is going to be Oo;;

Koreans


and Sen!

oh yeah that one foreigner everyone forgets about that's really good still

But...he's not Korean
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United States3726 Posts
April 29 2013 20:45 GMT
#37
Shouldn't this be called WCS: Not America?
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United States1060 Posts
April 29 2013 20:48 GMT
#38
Lost to miya and lure, such terrible player I am
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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
April 29 2013 20:50 GMT
#39
On April 30 2013 05:45 Crownlol wrote:
Shouldn't this be called WCS: Not America?


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Australia54784 Posts
April 29 2013 20:54 GMT
#40
haha, an entire weeks' preview.
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Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 21:03:19
April 29 2013 20:54 GMT
#41
I don't think any American player is expected to advance. alive is definitely favored over major, even though major is quite possibly the best AM player in this. It will be interesting to see if there are any upsets though!
Edit: At least I would bet that alive is favored over major; can't say for sure.
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Jknighty
Profile Joined July 2011
159 Posts
April 29 2013 20:55 GMT
#42
This is sad, all these sick players who should be in Code s playing deeply average foreigners. Fail to see what the forthcoming roflstomp will add to SC2. Would have been even worse with only deeply average foreign players though, at least things should get interesting from the RO16 (maybe RO8) onwards.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13969 Posts
April 29 2013 21:01 GMT
#43
completely agree TL good job bros
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BAAEEMM
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany412 Posts
April 29 2013 21:09 GMT
#44
Well... First four groups and you predicted one American (a Mexican who's been living in Korea) to go through. Not that I woould have predicted anything differently, just shows what state the NA scene and this WCS is in.
Yngvi
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands70 Posts
April 29 2013 21:16 GMT
#45
Gogo Major!
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
April 29 2013 21:20 GMT
#46
There's no way I can see Major winning over aLive. Well now I probably jinxed it...
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
April 29 2013 21:22 GMT
#47
anyone know if you can attend this event in person?
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
April 29 2013 21:26 GMT
#48
majOr over Alive would be awesome. Unlikely though imo
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Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
April 29 2013 22:39 GMT
#49
On April 30 2013 06:22 xeo1 wrote:
anyone know if you can attend this event in person?


Nope. The RO32 in AM is online this season. Nothing to attend.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
April 29 2013 22:57 GMT
#50
Will actually be interested in the results of this. Obviously on one expects the locals to make it past the group stages but Starcraft can be anything but predictable. I’d honestly be very surprised if there weren’t any upsets. I’m not going to make any predictions but here’s a list of players I want to see go through;

(Z)Snute: mainly just so I can be a complete snob and make obnoxious EU>NA comments a little while longer
(Z)NesTea: Because I like to see my main man Artosis, happy (also, it’s fricking NesTea guys!)
(Z)mOOnGLaDe: This WCS format isn’t perfect but we still got a much better deal than the SEA region. It would be nice for mOOnGLaDe (and great for the SEA scene) to have a good showing here.
(P)Alicia: Axiom fan-boy, that is all
(P)Killer: Just because I truly think he can do it. He’s no longer ‘unknown’ enough to be a hipster choice, but I still think he’ll raise a few eyebrows if he makes out of his group.

Unfortunately I’ll have to settle for Vods (if there will be any) since a 1am start isn’t a very work-friendly view schedule for me. Still loving this excess of SC2 content. Seems the cold, harsh, baron winter of the WoL>HotS transition is finally over
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 29 2013 22:58 GMT
#51
OGN might not be happy with such frontpage: + Show Spoiler +
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Also, I believe Vibe will advance. So underrated, even after proving last year to be probably the best US player. People just forget how strong Vibe can be when he plays well.
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WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
April 29 2013 23:06 GMT
#52
I agree with the first two groups, not sure about the other ones though... We'll see!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 29 2013 23:24 GMT
#53
Move aside China, Latin America is now the main target of MLG's ire.


I don't know about that. MLG also seem to have their ire focused on Canada, considering the fact that they gave Canadians two seeds, and gave Americans nine.
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
April 30 2013 00:21 GMT
#54
On April 30 2013 08:24 BrokenMirage wrote:
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Move aside China, Latin America is now the main target of MLG's ire.


I don't know about that. MLG also seem to have their ire focused on Canada, considering the fact that they gave Canadians two seeds, and gave Americans nine.


US has nine times as many people. I don't think Canada has more than twice the density of good SC2 players.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 30 2013 00:56 GMT
#55
On April 30 2013 09:21 diophan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 08:24 BrokenMirage wrote:
Move aside China, Latin America is now the main target of MLG's ire.


I don't know about that. MLG also seem to have their ire focused on Canada, considering the fact that they gave Canadians two seeds, and gave Americans nine.


US has nine times as many people. I don't think Canada has more than twice the density of good SC2 players.


If you look at earnings at sc2 tournaments, Canada and the United States are essentially on par, Canada being slightly ahead in fact, so yes I would say that Canada has a higher density of good SC2 players. Additionally I don't think many people would disagree that someone like Ostojiy would have been a more logical choice to invite than HelloKitty or theognis based on their WCS performances and sc2 performances generally.
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
April 30 2013 01:37 GMT
#56
Thanks for the write up I enjoyed the read. It's kinds of sad though, it seems like most matches are just going to be watching Koreans kick around the rest of the competition.
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 03:47:19
April 30 2013 03:13 GMT
#57
On April 30 2013 04:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 04:47 CoR wrote:
seems they not want european watchers, only reason for such time using ...


Why is it always the EU users that complain about this?

I mean Dreamhack, IEM, and Iron Squid are hell to watch for NA viewers. You don't see much whining from us.


In what is it "a hell to watch" ? Most european finals are air on saturday or sunday night CET, aka end of morning/begging of afternoon in the week-end in US. Maybe the first matches are a bit early, but that's all.
As far as "not in the same timezone" goes, you just can't ask for better...
Compare with NASL finals beeing aired at 6AM on a MONDAY for europe, yep you have an easy time america.

And for GSL everyone is screwed anyway, as in europe it's in the morning in the week days, and in the early moring in the week-end. At least in the USA you can decide to put an alarm clock and watch it in the night even if you work .
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Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
April 30 2013 08:20 GMT
#58
I think Vibe actually has the best chance to represent America (USA) and advance. I'd really like to see either him or Illusion do some damage in this tournament though.

Also, go alive in group A but I hope Major advances as well.
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Potthead
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia121 Posts
April 30 2013 11:41 GMT
#59
Wait... Is this a team liquid write-up which actually expects a SEA player to go through groups?!??! :O Thanks guys, you've probably cursed him now :p
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 30 2013 13:05 GMT
#60
Silly TL. Alive will advance over Major wih HerO in first.
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[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
April 30 2013 13:20 GMT
#61
I don't put to much hope on Nestea, cuz he is pretty abysmal for over a year.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 30 2013 13:20 GMT
#62
On April 30 2013 22:20 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
I don't put to much hope on Nestea, cuz he is pretty abysmal for over a year.

yeah but WCS America
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Leerok
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden15 Posts
April 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#63
No North american natives are gonna make it through to ro16, calling it! only europeans/koreans/southeast asia/taiwanese/ maybe a south american. CALLING IT!
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 01 2013 00:03 GMT
#64
I was right on day 1 and i wil be wright on day 2.

Minigun+apocalypse are advancing!
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Leerok
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden15 Posts
May 01 2013 02:25 GMT
#65
On May 01 2013 09:03 govie wrote:
I was right on day 1 and i wil be wright on day 2.

Minigun+apocalypse are advancing!


already wrong.
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mike7603
Profile Joined November 2012
United States37 Posts
May 01 2013 12:00 GMT
#66
GOGO ILLUSION
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 01 2013 22:15 GMT
#67
On May 01 2013 11:25 Leerok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 09:03 govie wrote:
I was right on day 1 and i wil be wright on day 2.

Minigun+apocalypse are advancing!


already wrong.


yeah.. but he had chances enough. To bad.
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 02 2013 22:13 GMT
#68
You guys have been bang on so far, going 6-for-6 on precious little data, an impressive feat, but I really have to question the last prediction. Major > Alive? Alive hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire with his play, but he's proved to be a reasonably solid korean terran. Major on the other hand, is that rarest of rare breeds, a foreigner, a terran, and a Latin American, a species as rare in the wild as a unicorn sighting.

Alive has started and played every game for EG-TL so far in HotS, going 3-4, decent if not mindblowing. Major on the other hand has been on T8's roster, I believe, since the beginning of PL, but hasn't even started a game. I feel that if Major were good enough to beat a player like Alive, he would've started some games by now, at least. Not like T8's players have proven themselves to be irreplaceable.

Hero and Alive seem like the runaway obvious picks to advance so it would be mindblowing if you kept up your perfect record after today.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 02 2013 22:31 GMT
#69
precious little data? i'd call a history of american sc2 generally sucking quite a lot of data haha, but yeah i agree alive/hero to take it
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 02 2013 22:57 GMT
#70
On May 03 2013 07:31 opterown wrote:
precious little data? i'd call a history of american sc2 generally sucking quite a lot of data haha, but yeah i agree alive/hero to take it

No doubt that's an easy call... but many of these groups aren't so straightforward as Korean > everyone > US . I was thinking along the lines of eg Moonglade who TL correctly predicted to win, despite having been seen very little recently. Even TheStC who's a pretty obscure Korean, the sort whom foreigners on their game have been able to defeat in the past.
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