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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 12 2013 06:41 ROOTheognis wrote: prolly just all qualifiers or more qualfiers? Only thing to make tourney admins more upset  No charge for qualifers, that would piss admins off for sure. Fingers crossed for the other one(going full Red Sox mode and not jinxing it.) | ||
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Glon
United States569 Posts
On April 12 2013 01:47 Hasuu wrote: It really dissapoints me to not see up and coming top NA players like Quanitc Glon on that list. Instead Korean pro gamers? In NA? It befundles me that Hellokitty/Capoch got in.... overall the entire process disgusts me. But it's OK - I now have to do a 256 open man bracket versus a horde of koreans. I'd rather have a chance with a slap in the face than not have one at all. | ||
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DGNDEV
Norway6 Posts
also @DeMusliM will now be joining us as one of the 32 - we had a cancellation... | ||
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Branman
United States203 Posts
On April 12 2013 07:13 DGNDEV wrote: Dunno if this has been posted yet, but DeMusLim just got in!! https://twitter.com/MLGSundance/status/170562513660944384 That's a year old. | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
e. meh.  | ||
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DGNDEV
Norway6 Posts
dont I look stupid now . Was so happy when a friend sent me the link, and I just watched the timestamp latest reply which was today | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
I easily felt for it | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
Invites are simply vague and shitty qualification processes. If you invite someone because they got some result at some random past tournament, then that tournament was essentially a qualifier for your invitational event and that's just absurd. It's a reasonable shortcut when it's not feasible to run qualifiers or when you're not trying to determine the players in your tournament by merit. But if you are doing a real qualification process anyway, then there's no reason to have any invites. | ||
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DGNDEV
Norway6 Posts
yeah me to ;/ | ||
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PrAeToR.FeNiX
Canada361 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
@MLGSundance Thank you  Oh god, I feel bad for him :[ | ||
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DGNDEV
Norway6 Posts
On April 12 2013 07:33 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Benjamin Baker @DeMusliM 7 min @MLGSundance Thank you Oh god, I feel bad for him :[ most likely the open bracket qualifier thing, he talked about in his stream earlier about some qualifier thingy | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
The way the invites have worked for North America is like this: There are 24 invitations total. 16 of those invites were supposed to be going to American players (this includes Mexico, South America, etc.) and those are the following: + Show Spoiler + 1. KiLLeR 2. Scarlett 3. IdrA 4. Suppy 5. Fenix 6. ViBE 7. HuK 8. Illusion 9. Major 10. State 11. Goswser 12. Hellokitty 13. Minigun 14. theognis 15. Capoch 16. Maker The remaining 8 invitations were given to non-American players (Korea, Europe, etc.). Those are these: + Show Spoiler + 17. Ryung 18. HerO 19. viOLet 20. Polt 21. mOOnGLaDe 22. Sen 23. NesTea 24. Snute These 2 categories people were done seperately and even if you're residing in North America you are not a North American player. A controversial one is that people are giving MLG a lot of flack for having invited Capoch, Maker and a few others instead of DeMusliM but it's completely irrelevant based on how the system works. DeMusliM does not belong in that category, but he belongs between the last 8 invitation spots. The non-American invites are 5 Koreans, 2 SEA people (TW and Australia) and 1 European. It's very clear that regions have been a factor as well as skill. I don't think the invitation is supposed to be stating that mOOnGLaDe is better than all the other contenders there were, but they were trying to distribute it to all regions so they wouldn't just invite 8 Koreans. What you can discuss is whether or not there should have been a different distribution and this is where a player like DeMusliM comes to mind for me. I could see it making sense removing a Korean invite (which in this case probably would have been Ryung) and given one more to Europe (DeMusliM or Stephano, but I assume Stephano would have gotten it if he had wanted it but he chose WCS EU). | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 12 2013 07:46 Bumblebee wrote: Alright, this is going to be on page 30 or something but I hope some people will really see it because there are so many weird things being thrown around in here... The way the invites have worked for North America is like this: There are 24 invitations total. 16 of those invites were supposed to be going to American players (this includes Mexico, South America, etc.) and those are the following: + Show Spoiler + 1. KiLLeR 2. Scarlett 3. IdrA 4. Suppy 5. Fenix 6. ViBE 7. HuK 8. Illusion 9. Major 10. State 11. Goswser 12. Hellokitty 13. Minigun 14. theognis 15. Capoch 16. Maker The remaining 8 invitations were given to non-American players (Korea, Europe, etc.). Those are these: + Show Spoiler + 17. Ryung 18. HerO 19. viOLet 20. Polt 21. mOOnGLaDe 22. Sen 23. NesTea 24. Snute These 2 categories people were done seperately and even if you're residing in North America you are not a North American player. A controversial one is that people are giving MLG a lot of flack for having invited Capoch, Maker and a few others instead of DeMusliM but it's completely irrelevant based on how the system works. DeMusliM does not belong in that category, but he belongs between the last 8 invitation spots. The non-American invites are 5 Koreans, 2 SEA people (TW and Australia) and 1 European. It's very clear that regions have been a factor as well as skill. I don't think the invitation is supposed to be stating that mOOnGLaDe is better than all the other contenders there were, but they were trying to distribute it to all regions so they wouldn't just invite 8 Koreans. What you can discuss is whether or not there should have been a different distribution and this is where a player like DeMusliM comes to mind for me. I could see it making sense removing a Korean invite (which in this case probably would have been Ryung) and given one more to Europe (DeMusliM or Stephano, but I assume Stephano would have gotten it if he had wanted it but he chose WCS EU). Did the players know about these caps when they made the decision on what region to play WCS in? People understand the need for invite systems for the first WCS. The question is if the players were given enough information from Blizzard before they made the decision. | ||
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Aleteh
Denmark166 Posts
On April 12 2013 07:46 Bumblebee wrote: Alright, this is going to be on page 30 or something but I hope some people will really see it because there are so many weird things being thrown around in here... The way the invites have worked for North America is like this: There are 24 invitations total. 16 of those invites were supposed to be going to American players (this includes Mexico, South America, etc.) and those are the following: + Show Spoiler + 1. KiLLeR 2. Scarlett 3. IdrA 4. Suppy 5. Fenix 6. ViBE 7. HuK 8. Illusion 9. Major 10. State 11. Goswser 12. Hellokitty 13. Minigun 14. theognis 15. Capoch 16. Maker The remaining 8 invitations were given to non-American players (Korea, Europe, etc.). Those are these: + Show Spoiler + 17. Ryung 18. HerO 19. viOLet 20. Polt 21. mOOnGLaDe 22. Sen 23. NesTea 24. Snute These 2 categories people were done seperately and even if you're residing in North America you are not a North American player. A controversial one is that people are giving MLG a lot of flack for having invited Capoch, Maker and a few others instead of DeMusliM but it's completely irrelevant based on how the system works. DeMusliM does not belong in that category, but he belongs between the last 8 invitation spots. The non-American invites are 5 Koreans, 2 SEA people (TW and Australia) and 1 European. It's very clear that regions have been a factor as well as skill. I don't think the invitation is supposed to be stating that mOOnGLaDe is better than all the other contenders there were, but they were trying to distribute it to all regions so they wouldn't just invite 8 Koreans. What you can discuss is whether or not there should have been a different distribution and this is where a player like DeMusliM comes to mind for me. I could see it making sense removing a Korean invite (which in this case probably would have been Ryung) and given one more to Europe (DeMusliM or Stephano, but I assume Stephano would have gotten it if he had wanted it but he chose WCS EU). What competition was the seeds given out on? If it's purely based on WCS then Demuslim should've gotten a seed in the EU division over either HasuObs or ThorZaIN and MaNa and TitaN who finished the same as Demuslim. Even if its based on all tournaments, some of the invitees are (excuse my language) fucking horrible and makes no sense at all. | ||
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Meatloaf
Spain664 Posts
On April 12 2013 00:01 Godwrath wrote: They are in the EU list, or did i miss something ? LOL i just missed their names altogether thank you. let me rephrase: Lucifron and Vortix will make me a happy spaniard!! GO LUCIFRON! | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
On April 12 2013 07:52 Plansix wrote: Did the players know about these caps when they made the decision on what region to play WCS in? People understand the need for invite systems for the first WCS. The question is if the players were given enough information from Blizzard before they made the decision. Nazgul and I were fully aware of the system when we made the decision to play Snute, Zenio and HerO in NA for season 1, yes. On April 12 2013 07:55 Aleteh wrote: What competition was the seeds given out on? If it's purely based on WCS then Demuslim should've gotten a seed in the EU division over either HasuObs or ThorZaIN and MaNa and TitaN who finished the same as Demuslim. Even if its based on all tournaments, some of the invitees are (excuse my language) fucking horrible and makes no sense at all. I don't think you can say iti was based on a competition, but more so what made sense due to a lot of factors. Marketing, skill, region, etc. I don't think there was just 1 factor. But I don't know for sure nor did I have any influence. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
The WCS America Season 1 Qualifying Tournament will now feature 512 players and will be FREE to enter. Register here: http://mlg.to/ZPZRLP | ||
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njoe
Sweden26 Posts
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