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November 29th, 2012 03:52 GMT

Power Rank: IPL5


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Fancy a Wager?



With online gambling still in legal limbo in the United States, two Americans who never gamble - tree.hugger and Waxangel - decided to celebrate the spirit of Las Vegas with a few friendly bets. Turns were taken with one individual offering certain odds on a wager, with the other deciding which side of the odds to take. On the line are millions of invaluable ESPORTS dollars (the most commonly accepted payment in the esports biz), and a considerable amount of pride.


Tree: Chance that Mill.Stephano shows up?
Wax: As opposed to?
Tree: EGStephano.RC
Wax: Give me something specific.
Tree: Chance Stephano makes it past WR4/LR5?
Wax: 2:1 (33%)


Tree: Nope. If everyone shows up, this is the toughest LAN in Sc2 history. No doubt about it. Stephano, usually a fixture for the top five in our pre-event PR's (and certainly never out of the top ten) finds himself at #17 for this event. But part of that is on Stephano's shoulders as well. He had a very poor MLG, an extremely good Lone Star Clash, and then another poor Dreamhack. His results are inconsistent; in the past, a poor Stephano performance usually meant top eight. Now it means getting booted in the groups. Last weekend, Stephano was smoked by RoX.KIS.fraer and Liquid`TaeJa. With his life on the line, the French Zerg was beaten by GLSnute in surprising fashion. Without knowing who the players were, you would've insisted that the Zerg engineering huge flanks and aggressively playing with roaches was Stephano, while the Zerg with the ham-fisted army control was his opponent. Yet the reverse was true. It was weird.

Stephano is still the best foreigner here. But I'm not sure if he still has his mojo, to be blunt. He certainly does not have the easiest bracket. A likely R2 opponent is Liquid`HerO. In R3, he should meet IMSeed. And Stephano isn't immune to losing to a player like MajOr either. Can Stephano make the round of the seeded players? In my bracket, I actually say no. Even though I like the odds Wax has given me, I'm going to trust my picks on this one.


# of foreigners in the top eight – Over/Under 0.5

Wax: Over. At IPL4, Stephano already managed to put a foreigner in the top six, and you could say that tournament had a similarly stacked line-up as IPL5. The significance of that achievement is somewhat offset by the fact that Stephano started off in the massively favorable group stages, but it was a good sign nonetheless. With Koreans actually outnumbering the foreigners at IPL5, it's sure to be tough. But with Snute and Xigua starting in winners round four (as regional qualifier winners), and the star quartet of Vortix, Stephano, Scarlett, and Nerchio all in contention, you have to think at least one of them will be able to make a good run to take some money back from the Koreans.


Both IPL5 finalists will be playing for their first championship – 15 to 1

Tree: Not taking. IPL4 was weird. In a tournament with players like NesTea, MC, MMA, MKP, jjakji, Polt, Leenock, Bomber, PartinG, TaeJa, HerO, Curious, and Creator (and I'm leaving some out) the final was aLive vs Squirtle. Didn't make sense at the time, and doesn't really make any sense now. Squirtle went on to have his epic GSL run, then has regressed to the mean since. aLive dropped out of Code A this season. IPL4's final was the peak or close to it for both players.

So will IPL5 produce a similarly bizarre final? Will the two finalists be players who have never won a championship in any major before?

First off, there's nothing inherent about IPL that ought to make it more likely that this kind of result should happen. While IPL4's structure was brain dead in many ways, the truth is, they were extremely unfortunate to have two poorly known Koreans make the finals. There's no structural bias at play here. That said, there are more players who qualify for this category than you might expect. Squirtle, for example, still hasn't won anything. Neither have any of the GSL semi-finalists, and so by the end of the weekend, three will still fall into that category. There are plenty of underrated Koreans who you could just imagine breaking out to make their first win. Make sure to remove sharp objects from the grasp of IPL5 staff when the realize they'll be showing a SymboL vs. ByuL finals.

Oh, but will it happen? No probably not. It's quite possible at least one of the finalists will be a wild card, and possible that a non-champion might win. But both players in the final being players of the aLive/Squirtle variety seems more unlikely than Wax is willing to admit.


KeSPA will pull a KeSPA – 9 to 1

Wax: I'll take those odds. So, as far we we can tell, STX_Innovation has been cleared to play in IPL5's regular tournament, and not just the Code S they are hosting. Huh, wasn't there supposed to be some sort of MLG-KeSPA exclusivity agreement in place? Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that a KeSPA player is playing in a non-MLG tournament, and the fact that it seems kosher so far. But this is KeSPA we're talking about, an organization that's more famous for its unfortunate decision making than anything else, so you just can't underestimate the possibility that something will go awry.


Team International will win at least one round in the GSL World Championship – 8 to 1

Wax: I'll take it! I'm going to start off by throwing the all-kill match out the window – the chance of winning that is so miniscule that it's not even worth considering. Even if the Korean players decide to mess around, you'd have trouble finding hope even with a microscope.

However, in the the 'Proleague' style match, where each player faces off against one member of the opposing team in team best of five, things have worked out so there is a relatively decent chance of victory. Through skill or luck, the line-ups have worked out to make a 3 : 2 victory a real possibility. Lucifron and NaNiwa are being tossed to the wolves, having to take on Seed and Life respectively. In return for their sacrifice, Scarlett gets to try her strong ZvZ against DRG, Nerchio gets a manageable opponent in a recently diminished Squirtle, and Stephano will get an opponent he has enjoyed success against in MC. Throw in the chance of either Lucifron or NaNiwa scoring a big upset, and 8 to 1 looks pretty reasonable.


It will be clear that four days is way too long for a major live event – 1 to 100

Wax: It's a foregone conclusion. Anyone who's tried to follow a tournament in hardcore fan mode will tell you that it takes a surprising amount of energy to do so. If you've been to any of MLG's three day events, you'll know that crowd energy peaks sometime during day two, and that the audience looks rather haggard by the end of day three. By packing IPL5, Code S Final Four, and the GSL World Championships into four days, IPL5 will be the most taxing event on the energy of esports fans since IPL4, a tournament most people remember more for day 2's GSTL final than day 3's actual IPL4 championship (aLive won, if you forgot). On top of that, this is the fourth straight weekend with a major event, and there's going to be residual fatigue from MLG, WCS, and DreamHack to contend with as well. If IPL can capture the audience's attention for four days and make sure all three tournaments get the attention they deserve, it would be a near miracle.


Protoss will be the race to complain the most after the tournament – 9 to 1

Tree: I think Wax is insane here. Absolutely no way that Protoss comes off looking worse in this tournament than Terran. Protoss is represented by players like Seed, HerO, Creator, Squirtle, and MC. Terran has Ryung, Bogus, Bomber, TaeJa, and YoDa. I think the edge is clearly in Protoss's favor. Is Terran 90% more likely to do better than Protoss here? No way.

But, as Wax pointed out, that wasn't the bet. The bet was about who would cry more, and here, I admit, he has a point. The history of Protoss tears is much longer than that for Terran. Perhaps Protoss players simply are more abused, or perhaps Terrans have the dignity to not complain so much after MVP won them a million titles. It could be that at IPL5 that the majority of complaints come from Protoss's side simply because no Terrans make it far enough to be abused by Zerg on a big enough stage. So while I think Protoss ought to outperform Terran here, I see the slightest opening for Wax to weasel his way out of admitting he lost this bet.


MKP will regret going to WCG instead of IPL - 1 to 100

Wax: MKP will sleep easy with his decision. It's easy to take a quick glance at the two tournaments and deride MKP for picking WCG's easy money over a chance at hard earned glory at IPL5. However, things aren't that simple.

WCG – the laughing-stock it may have become internationally – still holds a fairly high level of prestige in Korea. Winning WCG is like a rite of passage for the great StarCraft gamers of the time, with players like MVP, Flash, and Boxer having won the championship for Korea in the past. And in symbolic terms, it represents a tradition of Korean StarCraft dominance that's been unbroken since 2001, from the days where there weren't dozens of international tournaments where Koreans could crush the competition.

As long as PartinG doesn't defeat him in the finals and start mocking him for being a Kong, I'm sure MKP will be perfectly fine with his decision.


Innovation (aka Bogus) wins Code S – 51/20

Tree: I love Bogus. Long before the current Bogus train got going, I had claimed my seat in the first car. Although I can't wait for EffOrt to eventually become the Sc2 bonjwa, I'm quite happy to see Bogus mowing down the opposition. Will he win Code S? Hell yeah.

Wax decided to be dull, and just gave me the odds from international betting sites on Bogus. They've put him at about the 25% implied odds you'd expect if all semi-finalists were evenly matched. This is fair, Bogus is the best of all of them. But 28% doesn't take into account important factors like (1) Bogus's glasses, and (2) Bogus's giant nose, and (3) Bogus's never ending arsenal of ridiculous timing attacks. These factors alone make it likely that Bogus will win Code S, becoming the first elephant to take that title. His biggest test is HyuN in the semis. The winner of that will roll to victory in the final. And that player will be Bogus.


The same player will both IPL5 and Code S – 25 to 1

Wax: Not gonna bite. I don't think this is prohibitively hard or impossible for the right player at the right time - for instance, I feel like Life's wave of momentum in October was so strong, that he could have taken his MLG/GSL dual crown even if they had been held on overlapping days. However, as good as they might be, I'm not convinced that any of the current GSL semi-finalists are looking anywhere near Life-like.


The closing ceremony for IPL5 won't be awkward – 3 to 1

Tree: Here I bet against history; past and recent. I'm going to say that IPL is going to, against all odds, stage a final ceremony that is not tremendously awkward. Of course, even if IPL hires Danny Boyle to choreograph the thing, it could still go disastrously wrong when a poor, young, glasses-wearing Korean who has never won anything before gets handed the check and doesn't know what to do. But I believe, I have to believe, that sooner or later someone will hand somebody a trophy, good music will play, the player will smile, raise the trophy, be embraced by the audience, balloons will fall, confetti will blow up, the player will give an emotional speech, and yes we can, yes we can, yes we can!

Oh who am I kidding, I'm going to lose this bet.


Writers: tree.hugger and Waxangel.
Graphics: Hawaiianpig and shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel.
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HexSCII
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada115 Posts
November 29 2012 03:55 GMT
#2
LOL This should be interesting. Someone is going to be really rich.
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United States73 Posts
November 29 2012 03:59 GMT
#3
nice! love it
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States997 Posts
November 29 2012 04:01 GMT
#4
First bet proof of the EG curse?

Anyway good read, agree with you on most parts, except that bogus isn't going to win GSL.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 29 2012 04:04 GMT
#5
Lol I just hope it doesn't end up like Dreamhack ending. That was the most awkward finale in the history of the world.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 29 2012 04:06 GMT
#6
Definitely would take the under on the # of foreigners in the top 8. Too stacked of a lineup plus foreigners have looked more underwhelming than ever lately in my eyes.

Also part of me thinks Bogus will somehow win Code S (though I want Ryung to win) but its impossible to predict since there is the whole jetlag factor too.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 04:11:49
November 29 2012 04:11 GMT
#7
1 million esports dollars on a Sniper double win (25 to 1) combined with Sniper's individual odds
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fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
November 29 2012 04:14 GMT
#8
Lol yeah that closing ceremony will be crazy akward. Definite loss.
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AegonC
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
November 29 2012 04:20 GMT
#9
On November 29 2012 13:14 fire_brand wrote:
Lol yeah that closing ceremony will be crazy akward. Definite loss.


I've got to agree with you there. I sort of enjoy the awkward endings though, they tend to be really funny.
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 04:22:37
November 29 2012 04:22 GMT
#10
They think Bogus can beat Hyun in a Bo5? Lololololol.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
November 29 2012 04:28 GMT
#11
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November 29 2012 04:29 GMT
#12
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Australia54784 Posts
November 29 2012 04:34 GMT
#13
ooh this is cool, they should totally run this on pinnacle lol
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Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 29 2012 04:44 GMT
#14
Tree.hugger's got this. MKP is probably going to bomb out of the tournament in the round of 8 by losing against Lowely or something. On an unrelated note I'd give 1 to 10 odds that Hwangsin will make it to the WR4/LR5 (or further) despite his insane potential opponents( Life, Leenock ). My hipster senses are tingling.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
November 29 2012 05:14 GMT
#15
HYUNSTOPPABLE!!!!
I hope Life or MC wins IPL =]
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Canada4773 Posts
November 29 2012 05:58 GMT
#16
Hyun wins both IPL and GSL.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States32 Posts
November 29 2012 06:33 GMT
#17
Big mistake betting on Bogus. Hyung>Bogus, Ryung>Hyung
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Where dat snitch at?37014 Posts
November 29 2012 06:33 GMT
#18
Hilarious. Keep these coming
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Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
November 29 2012 06:46 GMT
#19
On November 29 2012 15:33 SeeKeR wrote:
Hilarious. Keep these coming


Agreed, this was pretty awesome.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18821 Posts
November 29 2012 06:59 GMT
#20
As I read this I imagined the GSL voice saying "Vegas, vegas, vegas, vegas......". Great writeup, this tournament is gonna be great.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
November 29 2012 07:09 GMT
#21
I keep reading these threads and hoping that some day they'll actually realise that there's reputable sportsbooks that work outside of the united states that allow us to place actual bets on the actual matches, and they're breaking down real lines. Instead it's mildly amusing commentary on the tournament, using my favourite term in all of TL, things being "awkward". Oh well, I guess I'll just load up on bboong to beat sea and print my moneys
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Sweden704 Posts
November 29 2012 07:13 GMT
#22
hero will go high, riding on his dreamhack momentum. he wont win though
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United States4391 Posts
November 29 2012 07:14 GMT
#23
The crying Protoss bet was a bad one to take. They will cry the most. They always cry the most even if they do amazingly at the event. Protoss fans cried the most about WCS Asia and WCS World. They could take top 4 at IPL4 but if Hero loses a game vs zerg they would still cry the most.
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Canada16217 Posts
November 29 2012 07:30 GMT
#24
On November 29 2012 16:13 KapsyL wrote:
hero will go high, riding on his dreamhack momentum. he wont win though


never doubt!
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Netherlands557 Posts
November 29 2012 07:51 GMT
#25
So much fun to read - great job TL :-)
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Guam5609 Posts
November 29 2012 07:54 GMT
#26
I loved this article. I agree that four days for an event like this may give the organizers more breathing room but it'll be hard to maintain the momentum.

My awesome SC2 week has just begun with this article and the start of WCG!
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 08:09:48
November 29 2012 08:04 GMT
#27
Bogus can play in IPL? Nice! Honestly Bogus has the potential to be the Rain of Terran.

Tasteless voice: Is Innovation going to be the next Zerg bonjwa?

Can't wait for the Artosis hype.

Edit - Also hearing about Life makes me disappointed he fell so quickly this GSL.

Hope he can get back to form.
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Canada5819 Posts
November 29 2012 08:15 GMT
#28
On November 29 2012 12:52 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
But, as Wax pointed out, that wasn't the bet. The bet was about who would cry more, and here, I admit, he has a point. The history of Protoss tears is much longer than that for Terran. Perhaps Protoss players simply are more abused, or perhaps Terrans have the dignity to not complain so much after MVP won them a million titles.


Huh. I guess my perspective must be off. Perhaps it was learning the Ways of the Whine from Artosis and Idra back in Brood War.

Perhaps it's pent up frustration from actually reading Terrans complain back in 2010 when Zerg had to play on Steppes of War, Delta Quadrant and Jungle Basin, or in 1/1/1 season of 2011.

Perhaps it's just my personal bias as a Protoss player.
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Montenegro10532 Posts
November 29 2012 08:23 GMT
#29
But this is KeSPA we're talking about, an organization that's more famous for its unfortunate decision making than anything else


Yo, I can think of a few things they're more famous for.

Such as competitive Starcraft EXISTING past 2001ish.
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Netherlands1206 Posts
November 29 2012 09:42 GMT
#30
rofl...

non-awkward closing ceremony?

... is there even such a thing?



i usually turn off the stream the second the final game is won.. its just..so...awkward...
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
November 29 2012 09:48 GMT
#31
This is epic as a preview ! I love the bet games you're doing !

We could use more of this kind of stuff !

Great job tree.hugger and Waxangel !
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Poland12923 Posts
November 29 2012 10:06 GMT
#32
The aw(kw)ard ceremony?
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Germany13591 Posts
November 29 2012 10:22 GMT
#33
Better than the power rank.
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Australia550 Posts
November 29 2012 10:31 GMT
#34
The same player will both IPL5 and Code S – 25 to 1


Wat... you accidently a word ><
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Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
November 29 2012 10:31 GMT
#35
Interesting, thanks!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 29 2012 10:51 GMT
#36
On November 29 2012 19:31 Walitgon wrote:
Show nested quote +
The same player will both IPL5 and Code S – 25 to 1


Wat... you accidently a word ><

It's obviously about not winning, which is quite probable
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 29 2012 11:01 GMT
#37
Haha this was a really fun read! Chances of closing ceremony at a big event being awkward? 100%
:)
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Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
November 29 2012 11:11 GMT
#38
great read, thank you!
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Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5 Posts
November 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#39
(Z)Snute, (Z)XiGua, (Z)Nerchio, (Z)Stephano, (Z)Scarlett, (Z)VortiX
Who can find the similarity between the foreign hopes? Kappa
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Australia550 Posts
November 29 2012 12:29 GMT
#40
On November 29 2012 19:51 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 19:31 Walitgon wrote:
The same player will both IPL5 and Code S – 25 to 1


Wat... you accidently a word ><

It's obviously about not winning, which is quite probable


Hahahaha

True XD
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Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
November 29 2012 12:30 GMT
#41
On November 29 2012 20:18 TheMightyTg wrote:
(Z)Snute, (Z)XiGua, (Z)Nerchio, (Z)Stephano, (Z)Scarlett, (Z)VortiX
Who can find the similarity between the foreign hopes? Kappa

Your forgot (Z)sLivko :D



But Tbh i have more hopes set on (P)NaNiwa and (T)LucifroN
RIP MKP
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Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
November 29 2012 12:43 GMT
#42
lol xD This was hilarious to read. Thanks! :D
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United Kingdom927 Posts
November 29 2012 13:33 GMT
#43
On novemBer 29 2012 13:44 BrokenMirage wrote:
Tree.hugger'S got this. MKP is probably going to bomb out of the tournament in the round of 8 by losing against LoWeLy or something. On an unrelated note I'd give 1 to 10 odds that HwangSin will make it to the WR4/LR5 (or further) despite his insane potential opponents( Life, Leenock ). My hipster senses are tingling.


Yea, MarineKing is known to do awful in foreign tournaments

zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
November 29 2012 15:37 GMT
#44
"Tree: Chance that Mill.Stephano shows up?
Wax: As opposed to?
Tree: EGStephano.RC"

:D I see what you did there.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
November 29 2012 16:29 GMT
#45
I love TL for stuff like this. Makes my day
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Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
November 29 2012 18:13 GMT
#46
I really enjoyed the article, thanks!

I expect there will be more Protoss whining than Terran whining. Three good Terrans are seeded high into the bracket compared to Crank and San for Protoss. I think Terran could do better overall. Even if they don't, it will only take a game or two of brood lord & infestor to get the complaints going.
HaniStream
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada50 Posts
November 29 2012 18:31 GMT
#47
good read. But I think the funniest comment (Mill.Stephano) shouldn't have been the first one
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
November 29 2012 19:28 GMT
#48
Here's a wager: Stephano will play more games in this IPL than he did in practice during the week leading up to the IPL. I'll give you 3:1 odds here.
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FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
November 29 2012 20:04 GMT
#49
I bet 1 foreigner in the top 8
Hyun wins both GSL and IPL
Korea will win the GSL world championship without taking it to the tie breaker
Half of the top 8 will be Zerg
MacNaughty
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada41 Posts
November 30 2012 00:25 GMT
#50
This was a really fun read, thanks guys!!
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
November 30 2012 03:39 GMT
#51
Viva Las Vegas, IPL5 + GSL it's awesome, good read !
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 30 2012 18:32 GMT
#52
On November 29 2012 22:33 noddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On novemBer 29 2012 13:44 BrokenMirage wrote:
Tree.hugger'S got this. MKP is probably going to bomb out of the tournament in the round of 8 by losing against LoWeLy or something. On an unrelated note I'd give 1 to 10 odds that HwangSin will make it to the WR4/LR5 (or further) despite his insane potential opponents( Life, Leenock ). My hipster senses are tingling.


Yea, MarineKing is known to do awful in foreign tournaments



I can now call myself a prophet for predicting MKP's elimination at the hands of LoWeLy before even knowing they were going to face each other. Too bad Hwangsin didn't perform.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
November 30 2012 19:29 GMT
#53
On November 29 2012 16:09 sixfour wrote:
I keep reading these threads and hoping that some day they'll actually realise that there's reputable sportsbooks that work outside of the united states that allow us to place actual bets on the actual matches, and they're breaking down real lines. Instead it's mildly amusing commentary on the tournament, using my favourite term in all of TL, things being "awkward". Oh well, I guess I'll just load up on bboong to beat sea and print my moneys


Well that was easy
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JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 20:44:40
December 01 2012 20:41 GMT
#54
"Tree: I think Wax is insane here. Absolutely no way that Protoss comes off looking worse in this tournament than Terran. Protoss is represented by players like Seed, HerO, Creator, Squirtle, and MC. Terran has Ryung, Bogus, Bomber, TaeJa, and YoDa. I think the edge is clearly in Protoss's favor. Is Terran 90% more likely to do better than Protoss here? No way."

Having the best (outside of Rain and Parting) protosses present is what makes watching them lose hit so much harder :-(. I am a proponent of protoss tears!

Edit:
In all seriousness, it's very hard not being somewhat sceptical about zerg power with GSL and IPL5 coinciding, although I am certain if you averaged the previous 10 tournaments it'd look a bit better (maybe not for terran, but meh).
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 02 2012 13:09 GMT
#55
Haha loved this thread, shame I haven't been able to watch any IPL... Just lots of refreshing.
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cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
December 04 2012 07:51 GMT
#56
looking back, you must be happy to not have bet real money on it^^
so wroooooong...;-)
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